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Message 59331 - Posted: 5 Feb 2009, 13:40:19 UTC - in response to Message 59180.  

mikey, whatever the problem is, it stands a good chance of clearing itself when the next Rosetta version comes out. The .exe will be a different name afterall. So, please monitor the new release thread and give another try at that time.


I will, I like the premise of Rosetta and that is what brought me here in the first place. I will certainly try again in the future, probably when you put out a new version as you suggest.
Thanks for all your help


I just had a thought...NOT dangerous this time, I am off for a few days here and I have finally figured out how to make Ubuntu Linux work for me and crunch Boinc projects too. I will try switching one of the machines that won't download the Windows app to Linux and see if that works.
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Message 59355 - Posted: 5 Feb 2009, 19:00:02 UTC - in response to Message 59331.  

mikey, whatever the problem is, it stands a good chance of clearing itself when the next Rosetta version comes out. The .exe will be a different name afterall. So, please monitor the new release thread and give another try at that time.


I will, I like the premise of Rosetta and that is what brought me here in the first place. I will certainly try again in the future, probably when you put out a new version as you suggest.
Thanks for all your help


I just had a thought...NOT dangerous this time, I am off for a few days here and I have finally figured out how to make Ubuntu Linux work for me and crunch Boinc projects too. I will try switching one of the machines that won't download the Windows app to Linux and see if that works.


Guess what...............NO PROBLEM, it is crunching just fine. Here is the pc: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=1001897
It is on its first unit, so no results yet, but one unit is crunching just fine so far!!
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Message 59363 - Posted: 5 Feb 2009, 20:19:02 UTC

lr5_D_hybrid_rlbd_1e6i_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_6250_347_0 died at 3 hrs out of 4 and also kicked up a dialogue box on my desktop.

the error - exit code -1073740791 (0xc0000409)

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Message 59365 - Posted: 5 Feb 2009, 21:33:33 UTC - in response to Message 59355.  

mikey, whatever the problem is, it stands a good chance of clearing itself when the next Rosetta version comes out. The .exe will be a different name afterall. So, please monitor the new release thread and give another try at that time.


I will, I like the premise of Rosetta and that is what brought me here in the first place. I will certainly try again in the future, probably when you put out a new version as you suggest.
Thanks for all your help


I just had a thought...NOT dangerous this time, I am off for a few days here and I have finally figured out how to make Ubuntu Linux work for me and crunch Boinc projects too. I will try switching one of the machines that won't download the Windows app to Linux and see if that works.


Guess what...............NO PROBLEM, it is crunching just fine. Here is the pc: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=1001897
It is on its first unit, so no results yet, but one unit is crunching just fine so far!!


I just thought of something....I wonder if changing the setting for:
Skip image file verification? to yes would have let my Windows pc's download the file? Hmmmmm
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Message 59367 - Posted: 5 Feb 2009, 21:48:57 UTC

The image verification can't occur until the download completes. So, that's not what's causing the download problem.
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Message 59371 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 1:21:48 UTC

Mod.Sense had asked me to posts my results in here. A little history, I've been getting Compute Error's for every Minirosetta WU I try and crunch, they usually crash and burn within the first 60 seconds or so...I am running a Q6600 with everything running at stock speeds but I was throttling my processor to use only 3 of 4 cores, so it was suggested that I let all 4 cores run unthrottled and here's what happenned:

I changed it to: "On multiprocessor systems, use at most 100% of the processors" so that it would run completely unthrottled and use all 4 cores. And I let it download minirosetta WU's and it got 5 of them and all failed after 0:33, 1:39, 0:56, 0:38, and last one at 0:51 crashed with a Vista popup saying "minirosetta_1.54_windows_x86_64.exe has stopped working"

So it didn't seem to help, I don't know what else to try but I'm little ashamed of all the compute errors when you look at my results page..so I think I may have to give up on minirosetta and just stick to Beta WU's, they seem to work great when I'm not messing around with the BOINC client.

I think it may have something to do with Vista 64. Because I have an E8500 running Vista 64 and they fail on there too but the E8500 is throttled to 1 core and is OC'ed from 3.16Ghz to 3.8Ghz (I've been told OC'ing will effect minirosetta) but the E8500 is my gaming rig so I don't mind if it doesn't crunch WU's because it's crunching games! :)
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Message 59374 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 2:58:56 UTC

And epcorian is not overclocked. Running BOINC version 6.4.5

They consistently fail with Access Violations on the Mini tasks. The "Rosetta Beta" tasks are the successes you will find.

Is it possible you've got something like an antivirus application that's conflicting on Vista?

The only other thought is to go back to the prior stable version of the BOINC client. There have been a number of fishy issues with the 6.4.x level. You can download older BOINC versions here
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Message 59376 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 3:29:44 UTC

That's right, the Q6600 isn't overclocked, the system contains a Intel DQ35JO MB, Q6600 Processor, 4GB (2x2GB) Kingston Value Ram, Corsair HX-520W PS, 36GB WD Raptor HD, 2x750GB WD HD's in RAID 1, and a Zalman HSF running Vista 64 SP1, no external video card. I use it as a home file and print server and recently a BOINC cruncher as I leave it on 24/7. No issues with Beta WU's or SETI.

I do have NOD32 installed on there but I tried disabling it (I haven't gone as far to uninstall it) and they would still fail.

Maybe I should try an older version of the BOINC client, I will give it a go this weekend and post back.

Thanks!
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Message 59382 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 9:38:53 UTC
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can someone please explain what happened here?

Here is another one.
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Message 59384 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 12:28:02 UTC - in response to Message 59367.  

The image verification can't occur until the download completes. So, that's not what's causing the download problem.


DARN, I was hoping that would solve my problem, oh well. Thanks!
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Message 59385 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 12:33:32 UTC - in response to Message 59374.  

And epcorian is not overclocked. Running BOINC version 6.4.5

They consistently fail with Access Violations on the Mini tasks. The "Rosetta Beta" tasks are the successes you will find.

Is it possible you've got something like an antivirus application that's conflicting on Vista?

The only other thought is to go back to the prior stable version of the BOINC client. There have been a number of fishy issues with the 6.4.x level. You can download older BOINC versions here


He is running a 64 bit OS though, I read on one of the projects that you need to do something to make 32 bit units work on a 64 bit system, is that true with Rosetta units too? That is NOT true for all projects and I do not remember where I read it.
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Message 59391 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 14:26:53 UTC
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Moved NewtonianRefractor's post here. They report a validation error on a tasks that had a visit from the watchdog. They ended at target runtime plus 4hrs, but show with validation errors.
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Message 59394 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 16:32:31 UTC - in response to Message 59161.  

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Please open the advanced view of the BOINC Manager, go to the tasks tab, and note the "application" name shown, this will have the application version. The only reports of tasks running that long are from the prior version. If it is not Rosetta mini 1.54, please select that task, and abort it with the button on the left. There were some problems like that on the prior version that are corrected now.


Same problem again on at least one of my computers. This time I have more details:
Application: Rosetta Mini 1.54
Task name: lr6_E_score12_rlbd_1ail_IGNORE_THE_REST_DECOY_6254_459_0

Total runtime before manual cancellation: 72:21:22
Total Progress: 0%
Time to go: 6:42:30 (as usual on my computers)

Any comments/ideas?
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Message 59395 - Posted: 6 Feb 2009, 17:10:50 UTC

Rembertw, which machine are you having the problem with? What version of BOINC are you running? Was this a newly installed machine? Or was it working before?
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Message 59406 - Posted: 7 Feb 2009, 1:36:32 UTC

Similar error to that reported by Paul Buck

Task: 226615095
Workunit: 206537670
Name: loopbuild_ref_tex_cst_hombench_loopbuild_tex_cst_t326__IGNORE_THE_REST_1R9GA_7_6642_18_0

Mac OSX 10.4.11

<core_client_version>6.2.18</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[

*** Probably irrelevant stuff deleted

End of unzipping.
Unpacking WU data ...
Unpacking data: ../../projects/boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta/loopbuild_ref_tex_cst.loopbuild_tex_cst.t326_.tex.boinc_files.zip
<unzip> <-oq> <../../projects/boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta/loopbuild_ref_tex_cst.loopbuild_tex_cst.t326_.tex.boinc_files.zip> <-d./>
Firstarg=true; pp=-d./
firstarg: <-d./>
End of unzipping.
Setting database description ...
Setting up checkpointing ...
BOINC:: Worker startup.
Starting watchdog...
Watchdog active.
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Hbond tripped.

ERROR: dis==0 in pairtermderiv!
ERROR:: Exit from: src/core/scoring/methods/PairEnergy.cc line: 338
BOINC:: Error reading and gzipping output datafile: default.out
called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>


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Message 59409 - Posted: 7 Feb 2009, 3:40:46 UTC

So I took Mod.Sense's advice and downgraded to the 6.2.19 64-bit version of the BOINC client and so far so good with the mini's, I've crunched with 30 minutes thus far and no errors yet, much better then the 30-60 seconds I was getting before.
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Message 59411 - Posted: 7 Feb 2009, 8:39:55 UTC - in response to Message 59395.  

Rembertw, which machine are you having the problem with? What version of BOINC are you running? Was this a newly installed machine? Or was it working before?

- This specific problem occurs with computer ID 586996
- Boinc version 6.2.14 as on most of my computers currently
- Not newly installed, but hardly a price winner with Rosetta. It crunches succesfully for other projects though

Extra comments: I have the impression that it is Rosetta that crashes. This morning I noticed 2 other tasks at +7h progress and 0% progress. When cancelling these tasks I got the Windows crash notice where I can "inform microsoft of the problem". The only "special" about this computer is that it doesn't have 24/7 internet access.
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Message 59412 - Posted: 7 Feb 2009, 12:17:19 UTC - in response to Message 59409.  

So I took Mod.Sense's advice and downgraded to the 6.2.19 64-bit version of the BOINC client and so far so good with the mini's, I've crunched with 30 minutes thus far and no errors yet, much better then the 30-60 seconds I was getting before.


ALRIGHT!!! Glad you guys found the problem, I guess the reports of the newer versions being released without proper testing were true in your case.
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Message 59416 - Posted: 7 Feb 2009, 13:56:34 UTC

Hola,

En primer lugar, disculpas por escribir en castellano, pero mi inglés es insuficiente.

Desde agosto de 2008 me están finalizando el 99% de las tareas de Rosetta Mini con error de cálculo. Al cabo de un tiempo decidí no seguir procesando en este proyecto. Aun así, de cuando en cuando vuelvo a intentarlo, pero todo sigue igual: incluso con las nuevas versiones de Rosetta Mini, incluida esta última.

El caso es que las tareas de Rosetta Beta no me fallan, pero de ésas me envía proporcinalmente muy pocas. La pena es que en este proyecto no existe la posibilidad de seleccionar subproyectos, como sí la hay en otros muchos.

Me gustaría seguir procesando para este proyecto, pero no hay manera, y no es cuestión de tirar horas de computación desaprovechadas. Espero que este problema se resuelva pronto. Por mi parte seguiré probando de vez en cuando.

Un coridal saludo para todos,

Juan
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Message 59418 - Posted: 7 Feb 2009, 14:14:01 UTC

Hello.
Following task (https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=225859224) is suspended as it has produced "accepted energy": QNAN(Not a Number?) and RMSD: QO.Model number 25 step 9518. Running time: 20h 2min 21sec.
Set runtime 24h.
For now suspended.No crash before.
OS:Windows 7 beta.I can create dump file using task manager.

Should I let it try to finish?

Thanks
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