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Message 51424 - Posted: 16 Feb 2008, 17:59:17 UTC

I don\'t like the Mini WU\'s because suddenly the credit I recieve for work is at least 5 to 10 times smaller than before. I\'ve cancelled all mini jobs starting with \"score13_hb_envtest62\". My guess is many PCs \"testing\" the Mini WU\'s are probably alot faster than old 2.4G Dual CPU Xeon Machine... so comparing similar tasks my PC won\'t get a very good score... but still the sudden decrease in perceived productivity on my PC caused me to think there is something wrong with the WU\'s or there is something wrong with the way credit is granted with respect to those WU\'s.

Example:
Computer ID: 494454
Task ID: 139520471
Name: score13_hb_envtest62_A_1scjB_2833_1905_0
Workunit: 127066346
Claimed credit 98.9446294668645
Granted credit 5.54573244250427
application version 1.07

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Message 51426 - Posted: 16 Feb 2008, 19:27:44 UTC - in response to Message 51424.  

I don\'t like the Mini WU\'s because suddenly the credit I recieve for work is at least 5 to 10 times smaller than before. I\'ve cancelled all mini jobs starting with \"score13_hb_envtest62\". My guess is many PCs \"testing\" the Mini WU\'s are probably alot faster than old 2.4G Dual CPU Xeon Machine... so comparing similar tasks my PC won\'t get a very good score... but still the sudden decrease in perceived productivity on my PC caused me to think there is something wrong with the WU\'s or there is something wrong with the way credit is granted with respect to those WU\'s.

Example:
Computer ID: 494454
Task ID: 139520471
Name: score13_hb_envtest62_A_1scjB_2833_1905_0
Workunit: 127066346
Claimed credit 98.9446294668645
Granted credit 5.54573244250427
application version 1.07


I noticed a similar decrease in credit and it killed my RAC. Usually, credit granted is very close to credit claimed. With the Mini apps, the credit granted is ALWAYS lower than the credit claimed.

It is likely due to the fact that the mini application is not yet fully optimized and will improve over time. It would be great to see mini applications optimized for processor type as well.



Thx!

Paul

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Message 51434 - Posted: 16 Feb 2008, 23:25:25 UTC

My machine is running a WU on Mini 1.07.

On normal Rosetta, I think WUs were usually taking 6 to 10 hours to complete. (Pentium III 550MHz)

Mini 1.07 has taken over 50 hours to go from 99.5% complete to 99.7% complete. During this whole time, it has declared that it has 10 minutes to go.

Should I abort this WU? Is there any useful information that can be gleaned before I do?
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Message 51436 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 5:08:26 UTC - in response to Message 51434.  

My machine is running a WU on Mini 1.07.

On normal Rosetta, I think WUs were usually taking 6 to 10 hours to complete. (Pentium III 550MHz)

Mini 1.07 has taken over 50 hours to go from 99.5% complete to 99.7% complete. During this whole time, it has declared that it has 10 minutes to go.

Should I abort this WU? Is there any useful information that can be gleaned before I do?


That\'s too long. Can you archive and compress the slot directory that it is running in and send it to dekim at u.washington.edu? then abort.
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Message 51447 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 15:58:35 UTC

Hi

My system found a virus when downloading data from your site. Here is a
copy of the report issued by the anti-virus NOD-32:

NQENR  €T ô  âYÛ Ð ÞµÁuqÈÕN  http://s r v 3 . b a k e r l a b . o r g / r o s e t t a / d o w n l o a d / m i n i r o s e t t a _ 1 . 0 7 _ w i n d o w s _ i n t e l x 8 6 . e x e p r o b a b l y a v a r i a n t o f W i n 3 2 / S t a t i k a p p l i c a t i o n

Kindly look into this and let me have a feedback..

Thanks

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Message 51448 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 15:58:40 UTC

Hi

My system found a virus when downloading data from your site. Here is a
copy of the report issued by the anti-virus NOD-32:

NQENR  €T ô  âYÛ Ð ÞµÁuqÈÕN  http://s r v 3 . b a k e r l a b . o r g / r o s e t t a / d o w n l o a d / m i n i r o s e t t a _ 1 . 0 7 _ w i n d o w s _ i n t e l x 8 6 . e x e p r o b a b l y a v a r i a n t o f W i n 3 2 / S t a t i k a p p l i c a t i o n

Kindly look into this and let me have a feedback..

Thanks

Ganesh
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Message 51449 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 16:25:56 UTC - in response to Message 51447.  

Hi

My system found a virus when downloading data from your site. Here is a
copy of the report issued by the anti-virus NOD-32:

NQENR  €T ô  âYÛ Ð ÞµÁuqÈÕN  http://s r v 3 . b a k e r l a b . o r g / r o s e t t a / d o w n l o a d / m i n i r o s e t t a _ 1 . 0 7 _ w i n d o w s _ i n t e l x 8 6 . e x e p r o b a b l y a v a r i a n t o f W i n 3 2 / S t a t i k a p p l i c a t i o n

Kindly look into this and let me have a feedback..

Thanks

Ganesh

Hi Ganesh

No need to worry - it\'s not a virus - it\'s a false-positive (NOD mis-identifies it):
NOD32 3 says Virus in file!
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Message 51452 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 18:24:36 UTC

Sadly I have to stop running Rosetta. I am getting way too much grief from MiniRosetta vs NOD32. Ill keep running Ralph on one system and wait until this gets sorted out, and then I shall return. I\'m disappointed in the response that has allowed this application to migrate and/or continue on Rosetta when this issue was identified on Ralph and not addressed. Reminds me of Predictor@Home.
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Message 51454 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 19:09:09 UTC - in response to Message 51452.  
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Sadly I have to stop running Rosetta. I am getting way too much grief from MiniRosetta vs NOD32. Ill keep running Ralph on one system and wait until this gets sorted out, and then I shall return. I\'m disappointed in the response that has allowed this application to migrate and/or continue on Rosetta when this issue was identified on Ralph and not addressed. Reminds me of Predictor@Home.

I agree - there are too many computers on Rosetta that shouldn\'t be having errors. Maybe Ralph should be a lot bigger using the more closely monitored PCs that have more knowledgeable users and Rosetta should be for mass production jobs where the results are being tested rather than the methodology... A 1% problem on a project of this size with this much throughput per computer is still a pretty big problem!
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Message 51457 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 19:59:07 UTC - in response to Message 51415.  

I have a Rosetta mini on my computer at the moment and unless I abort it then it will probably stay there.
It ran for 4:15:09 (h:m:s) with my preference set to 6 hours, and says it has completed 100% but is still sitting there \"Waiting to Run\" in Boinc Manager.

It hapens occasionally, that application reaches the end of its timeslot. If the app now checkpoints shortly before (or just at) reaching 100%, it is immediately preempted by Boinc client and will silently wait for its next turn.

I am unable to upload it as B/M thinks it has not finished yet.
Should I just abort it?

No, no need to. Suspend client\'s network communication, then suspend all other projects and the application should be immediately started and finished soon.

I\'ve just got one too (on Ralph) ;-)

After suspending other tasks, it finished immediately :-)

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Message 51461 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 23:00:35 UTC - in response to Message 51289.  

hope this helps

log from NOD32:
2/9/2008 5:58:05 PM
HTTP filter
file
http://srv4.bakerlab.org/rosetta/download/minirosetta_1.07_windows_intelx86.exe
probably a variant of Win32/Statik application
connection terminated - quarantined
<pc name>\\<user>
Threat was detected upon access to web by the application: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\boinc.exe.

Boinc ver. 5.10.30
NOD32 ver. 3.0.551.0
Virus sig. 2861 (20080209)
WinXP SP2

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Message 51463 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 23:04:48 UTC - in response to Message 51289.  

Hi,
I just wanted to add that nod 32 is giving the same error here. I am running Windows vista 64 bit edition. Here is a copy of the log from NOD 32.

2/14/2008 8:03:38 PM HTTP filter file http://srv1.bakerlab.org/rosetta/download/minirosetta_1.07_windows_x86_64.exe probably a variant of Win32/Statik application connection terminated - quarantined Bird-Land\\Todd admin Threat was detected upon access to web by the application: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\boinc.exe.


Thanks,
Todd







hope this helps

log from NOD32:
2/9/2008 5:58:05 PM
HTTP filter
file
http://srv4.bakerlab.org/rosetta/download/minirosetta_1.07_windows_intelx86.exe
probably a variant of Win32/Statik application
connection terminated - quarantined
<pc name>\\<user>
Threat was detected upon access to web by the application: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\boinc.exe.

Boinc ver. 5.10.30
NOD32 ver. 3.0.551.0
Virus sig. 2861 (20080209)
WinXP SP2

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Message 51464 - Posted: 17 Feb 2008, 23:52:00 UTC

I have three dead work units from minirosetta on my Linux box (Ubuntu 7.10) running BOINC v 5.10.8. all three stopped (waiting to run) at approximately 59 min 44 seconds into the run (13.61 to 14.78% complete). since they download worked with every other run being a minirosetta it is completing one, running for about an hour on the minirosetta - does not say in the messages that it is stopping for a reason, just shows that it is starting the next work unit. stan

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Message 51465 - Posted: 18 Feb 2008, 0:05:50 UTC

Forgot to mention that I run an AMD 4000 dual core, 64 bit, 64 bit Ubuntu, with 1 gB of ram. I tried the start / stop / suspend project / suspend task / stop network activity, etc. When it started back up it went to the regular Rosetta work unit that it was working on in the first place - the other three are still \"waiting to run\" with just under an hour on the clock.
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Message 51466 - Posted: 18 Feb 2008, 0:07:18 UTC

:-( I run RAlph at a high rescorce share on a number of machines where its not critical if they hang or crash, Rosetta I liked to put on Peoples machines because its stable and has a nice screensaver, I wish I was visiting RAlph forum to because of a hung testbed, instead of seeing I\'m part of a 3% failure rate :-(

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Message 51467 - Posted: 18 Feb 2008, 0:30:03 UTC

Sorry, shuda checked all this before I originally posted. I check previous good results - so far only one on the linux box has completed out of 4. these just started showing up. I have one on my Windows XP box that just finished and uploaded without problem after 2 hrs 35 minutes. this is a 64 bit system running a Windows XP home 32 bit edition - BOINC is 5.4.11. stan
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Message 51470 - Posted: 18 Feb 2008, 5:49:54 UTC

I have noticed on both Ralph and Rosetta that ALL \"mini\" type Work Units only get about one third (1/3) of the credit I usually get on either project.

The other types of work units are ok just the \"mini/score\" ones and only with Windows.
All is OK on Linux for the points granted on the same WU type.
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Message 51478 - Posted: 18 Feb 2008, 13:19:05 UTC

Hi, during the work Antivirus Nod32 intercected mini_rosetta like a virus.
In the message i find:
18/02/2008 14.06.58|rosetta@home|Started download of minirosetta_1.07_windows_intelx86.exe
18/02/2008 14.06.58|rosetta@home|Started download of minirosetta_database_rev20412.zip
18/02/2008 14.08.21|rosetta@home|Task CFR_034_V9_2842_8604_0 exited with a DLL initialization error.
18/02/2008 14.08.21|rosetta@home|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reboot your computer.
18/02/2008 14.08.21|rosetta@home|Restarting task CFR_034_V9_2842_8604_0 using rosetta_beta version 593
18/02/2008 14.08.31|rosetta@home|Finished download of minirosetta_1.07_windows_intelx86.exe
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Message 51481 - Posted: 18 Feb 2008, 13:49:42 UTC
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read this message from DEKwhere he says norton is making it a false positive.
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Message 51482 - Posted: 18 Feb 2008, 13:50:05 UTC
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ooops sorry
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