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Message 28647 - Posted: 29 Sep 2006, 6:51:18 UTC

Hi !

Is limiting CPU usage on general prefferences working at all ? I've tried putting values different than 100% there so that when I'm working with my laptom on my lap, it doesn't burn my legs because of heat, but it doesn't seems to work.
Whatever I put under general or specific (home, work, school) prefferences, my computer always use 100%.
At boinc client (version 5.4.11), message says that specfic prefference was applied, but doesn't change CPU usage.
Any ideas ?
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Message 28649 - Posted: 29 Sep 2006, 7:33:45 UTC

Hi

It's not been implemented yet (I believe it will in one of the soon to be released BOINC versions).

For now you can try Threadmaster to do the same thing.

Out of curiosity, why are you wanting to limit CPU usage? If you're running on a laptop I recommend having a look at reducing the voltage - I'd dropped my (Pentium M - Dothan 1.86GHz) from 1.35V to 1.05V and it runs cooler now with Rosetta than it did without before.

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Message 28650 - Posted: 29 Sep 2006, 7:42:47 UTC - in response to Message 28649.  

Danny,

thanks for reply.
Only reason I want to do this is that i don't know how to drop the voltage...
I gues i should be looking at bios ? or.... ?

Also, excuse my ignorance, but what is Threadmaster ?
I'm not realy into computers.....

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Message 28651 - Posted: 29 Sep 2006, 7:44:44 UTC

This feature will be implemented with the 5.6.x client soon to be released.
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Message 28654 - Posted: 29 Sep 2006, 8:17:10 UTC
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Threadmaster is a Windows tool you can use to limit CPU usage. You can download it from here.
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Message 28656 - Posted: 29 Sep 2006, 9:00:10 UTC

Another throttling tool you can use is BES.

http://mion.faireal.net/BES/

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Message 28660 - Posted: 29 Sep 2006, 10:53:16 UTC - in response to Message 28654.  

Threadmaster is a Windows tool you can use to limit CPU usage. You can download it from here.


thanks to all of you.
threadmaster works like a charm.
great board, great project and we all hope great results !

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Message 28662 - Posted: 29 Sep 2006, 11:39:29 UTC
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Hi Tomaz

Glad you got Threadmaster working.

You might find reducing the voltage beneficial too - I was in a hurry earlier so didn't explain. The advantages are:
Reduced temperatures
Increased battery life (can be considerable - mine is around 25% longer now)
Faster charging
Reduced power consumption
Reduced strain on hardware (peak temperatures are what's most important here, and my lappy runs Rosetta much cooler than it used to get to without Rosetta!)

The manufacturers have to use conservative settings as they have to run at a voltage that all the CPUs will run at, but in reality almost all will happily run at much lower voltages.

The program I use is RMClock - I don't find the website the easiest to navigate, so the exe is here.

If you need any more info then post back and I'll run you through it.

HTH
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Message 28698 - Posted: 29 Sep 2006, 18:08:38 UTC - in response to Message 28662.  

Hi Tomaz

Glad you got Threadmaster working.........

HTH
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By placing the global_prefs_override.xml file in the BOINC directory, installing version 5.6.4 and placing the <cpu_usage_limit>90</cpu_usage_limit> value in there, restart, it will run flawless at 90% of idle. What i like though about Threadmaster is, that any process can be controlled, so added AD Aware, SpyBot, Disk Defraggers and the like in there too at very low percentages.

BES is new to me.... i'll give it a swirl.

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Message 28699 - Posted: 29 Sep 2006, 18:14:02 UTC - in response to Message 28698.  

Hi Tomaz

Glad you got Threadmaster working.........

HTH
Danny

By placing the global_prefs_override.xml file in the BOINC directory, installing version 5.6.4 and placing the <cpu_usage_limit>90</cpu_usage_limit> value in there, restart, it will run flawless at 90% of idle. What i like though about Threadmaster is, that any process can be controlled, so added AD Aware, SpyBot, Disk Defraggers and the like in there too at very low percentages.

BES is new to me.... i'll give it a swirl.

ciao


You shouldn't need to use the override file since Rosetta@Home already implements that in hte online preferences.
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Message 28705 - Posted: 29 Sep 2006, 19:37:16 UTC - in response to Message 28662.  

Hi Tomaz

Glad you got Threadmaster working.

You might find reducing the voltage beneficial too - I was in a hurry earlier so didn't explain. The advantages are:
Reduced temperatures
Increased battery life (can be considerable - mine is around 25% longer now)
Faster charging
Reduced power consumption
Reduced strain on hardware (peak temperatures are what's most important here, and my lappy runs Rosetta much cooler than it used to get to without Rosetta!)

The manufacturers have to use conservative settings as they have to run at a voltage that all the CPUs will run at, but in reality almost all will happily run at much lower voltages.

The program I use is RMClock - I don't find the website the easiest to navigate, so the exe is here.

If you need any more info then post back and I'll run you through it.

HTH
Danny


DCDC, Your post was very usefull for me too, one of my computers works at 70C while running Rosetta and only checking "enable termal monitor" the temp is now at 65C, later I will study the matter of reducing the voltage. Thanks a lot!

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Message 29093 - Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 0:01:26 UTC - in response to Message 28660.  

Threadmaster is a Windows tool you can use to limit CPU usage. You can download it from here.


thanks to all of you.
threadmaster works like a charm.
great board, great project and we all hope great results !

Tomaz



Hi- how does threadmaster differ from the Windows task manager?

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Message 29096 - Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 3:12:35 UTC

how does threadmaster differ from the Windows task manager?


I'm sure there are more detailed answers out there, but the main thing is that Windows task manager is basically a way to observe tasks running on your machine. Threadmaster is a way to set up some rules about which tasks are allowed to use how much CPU, and it then enforces the rules for you.

Threadmaster can be used to run your machine at say 70% of CPU, rather then 100%. All Task Manager can do is go in and end something. Some people (especially laptop owners) prefer to run a little less then full throttle. This helps their machines run cooler, which means their lap is more comfortable or their fan runs at a lower rate and makes less noise.
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Message 29128 - Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 18:47:19 UTC - in response to Message 29096.  

how does threadmaster differ from the Windows task manager?


I'm sure there are more detailed answers out there, but the main thing is that Windows task manager is basically a way to observe tasks running on your machine. Threadmaster is a way to set up some rules about which tasks are allowed to use how much CPU, and it then enforces the rules for you.

Threadmaster can be used to run your machine at say 70% of CPU, rather then 100%. All Task Manager can do is go in and end something. Some people (especially laptop owners) prefer to run a little less then full throttle. This helps their machines run cooler, which means their lap is more comfortable or their fan runs at a lower rate and makes less noise.

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Message 29129 - Posted: 10 Oct 2006, 18:51:47 UTC

How can I remove threadmaster 1.12build128 from my computer once I have installed it?I need a little more control over my cpu usage than what this is able to give me. thanks for any help you might give me.
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Message 29147 - Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 2:37:13 UTC - in response to Message 29129.  
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How can I remove threadmaster 1.12build128 from my computer once I have installed it?I need a little more control over my cpu usage than what this is able to give me. thanks for any help you might give me.


I have threadmaster installed on my Win XP system and have used the uninstall script available at the web site. I didn't mean to uninstall threadmaster, but I accidentally clicked on the script! It worked. It took me 45 minutes to reinstall it.

http://threadmaster.tripod.com

The uninstall script is found under downloads on the homepage, or the following link.

http://bednorz.uni2.net/anyland/threadmaster/download.htm

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Message 29154 - Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 6:29:16 UTC - in response to Message 29147.  

Help i am new to threadmaster. I installed it and now my CPU has started to run at 20% how do i increase it? I am running XP and i cant find the control for thread master, could someone help?
How can I remove threadmaster 1.12build128 from my computer once I have installed it?I need a little more control over my cpu usage than what this is able to give me. thanks for any help you might give me.


I have threadmaster installed on my Win XP system and have used the uninstall script available at the web site. I didn't mean to uninstall threadmaster, but I accidentally clicked on the script! It worked. It took me 45 minutes to reinstall it.

http://threadmaster.tripod.com

The uninstall script is found under downloads on the homepage, or the following link.

http://bednorz.uni2.net/anyland/threadmaster/download.htm

Jack


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Message 29169 - Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 16:25:06 UTC - in response to Message 29154.  
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Help i am new to threadmaster. I installed it and now my CPU has started to run at 20% how do i increase it? I am running XP and i cant find the control for thread master, could someone help?


I need a lot more information.

Q1 Are you running XP?

Q2 Does your computer run at 20% when BOINC/Rosetta is actually crunching. The reason I am asking about this because - most computers run at less than 20% during average usage. Everything may be perfect if you are not actually crunching Rosetta. My computer averages about 5% when I am just surfing the web.

Q3 Are you familiar with the registry keys? Have you ever used regedit? And most important - did you modify any of the registry keys created by threadmaster? Threadmaster does provide instructions but they are almost gibberish to people who are unfamilar with the registry keys.


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Message 29171 - Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 16:50:41 UTC

Thankyou i am going nuts.
Q1. Yes i am running Windows XP and i have just graduated from Windows ME.
Q2. I was a little wrong 20% is peak value Average is 14% and yes this value is with Rosetta running full speed?
At this rate running my computer 24 hrs will still not allow me to meet any deadline?
Q3. Yes i am familiar with registry but no i have not gone into the registry becuse i am new to XP.
What i have tried to do is kill the process Ctrl+Alt+Del. My processar started RUNNING at base line? that is 3 or 4%.
Thats it nothing else and i give up. Please help and thanks
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Message 29174 - Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 16:59:35 UTC - in response to Message 29154.  

Thanks, i will uninstall it if i have no other option :-)

Help i am new to threadmaster. I installed it and now my CPU has started to run at 20% how do i increase it? I am running XP and i cant find the control for thread master, could someone help?
How can I remove threadmaster 1.12build128 from my computer once I have installed it?I need a little more control over my cpu usage than what this is able to give me. thanks for any help you might give me.


I have threadmaster installed on my Win XP system and have used the uninstall script available at the web site. I didn't mean to uninstall threadmaster, but I accidentally clicked on the script! It worked. It took me 45 minutes to reinstall it.

http://threadmaster.tripod.com

The uninstall script is found under downloads on the homepage, or the following link.

http://bednorz.uni2.net/anyland/threadmaster/download.htm

Jack



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