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Message 92817 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 21:59:31 UTC - in response to Message 92815.  

It's not the virus that concerns me, it's the world falling apart due to virtually nobody working.

That is not unreasonable. At some point, you have to allow the less-vulnerable (whoever they are) to get back to work in some limited form, with the attendant health risks.
If the economy stops entirely, it will be hard to restart.

You would think that given the inevitability of viruses and pandemics (and they can be far worse than this one), that governments would have stockpiles of face masks, gloves, ventilators, and whatever.
It would cost a very (very) small fraction of what we spend on defense in the U.S. Also, they should have run computer models for various scenarios on how to keep the economy from seizing up.

Did they do that? Fat chance. Maybe China did. They seem to be managing it the best.


Well they are the expert on viruses, since it started there, but apparently it's not allowed to suggest that in here. I won't be donating my computing power to this project any longer due to power hungry admins yelling at me.
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Message 92831 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 23:05:28 UTC - in response to Message 92737.  
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Sid Celery,

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I'm also sorry to say the tasks ready to send on the server status page are <not> ready to send. There's always an 8,000ish discrepancy when tasks run out completely for several days, as they do now and as they did a few months ago - confirmed when compared with the homepage right now. I've learned to ignore it and look elsewhere.
It's not important, but It's distracting, because people are regularly distracted by it.

I'm going to get thrown out of here, aren't I... :(

Could that be because the tasks are set up to run under specific operating systems, and the last 8,000 are not suitable for the operating system on your computer?

Also, could it be that 8,000 tasks are of types that are not shown under Tasks by application at the bottom of the server status page?

The two listings of available tasks tasks on the server status page do not agree, but it is not obvious whether it is because they show the status at different times or because one doesn't show all types of tasks.
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Message 92832 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 23:09:34 UTC - in response to Message 92817.  

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Well they are the expert on viruses, since it started there, but apparently it's not allowed to suggest that in here. I won't be donating my computing power to this project any longer due to power hungry admins yelling at me.


The virus starting in China does not prove that the Chinese did it. It now looks like natural processes among animals did it instead.
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Message 92833 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 23:16:29 UTC - in response to Message 92809.  
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And there is somewhere the virus isn't - the open countryside. But apparently I'm supposed to take exercise from my front door and not travel elsewhere. No thanks, I'll go running in the middle of nowhere, not down the street meeting hundreds of others.


There are no known cases in Antarctica. But are you about to move there?
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Message 92836 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 0:08:15 UTC - in response to Message 92757.  


2. Creating these jobs takes human and CPU time on our end and we're stretched thin. I'm working my hardest to get stuff pushed through the pipeline, but for a lot of these, I have to develop new software to get the jobs set up correctly. Additionally, some stuff we can't run on R@H and so it has to be precomputed.

Could you get someone from the community to help with/do some of that work? There seems to be lots of people who are both keen to help and highly capable. If practical, that could free you up to work on the high value work, like getting the new version of Rosetta running, or getting trRosetta ready for BOINC etc.
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Message 92850 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 1:28:42 UTC

Total newbie here, and don't know that much about whether I'm actually helping or hindering.
I have just my laptop and trying to do what I can to help.
Thanks for providing the wu's, and will be glad when I hear the laptop fan blowing again :D
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Message 92851 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 1:41:31 UTC - in response to Message 92831.  
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I'm also sorry to say the tasks ready to send on the server status page are <not> ready to send. There's always an 8,000ish discrepancy when tasks run out completely for several days, as they do now and as they did a few months ago - confirmed when compared with the homepage right now. I've learned to ignore it and look elsewhere.
It's not important, but It's distracting, because people are regularly distracted by it.

I'm going to get thrown out of here, aren't I... :(

Could that be because the tasks are set up to run under specific operating systems, and the last 8,000 are not suitable for the operating system on your computer?

Also, could it be that 8,000 tasks are of types that are not shown under Tasks by application at the bottom of the server status page?

The two listings of available tasks tasks on the server status page do not agree, but it is not obvious whether it is because they show the status at different times or because one doesn't show all types of tasks.

That's certainly crossed my mind, but I made a gag about it months ago (the figure was 8086 and I speculated it was for 8086 processors) and the figure's never shifted since then on anyone's OS.
Also, no-one else laughed since then, but I don't think that's so much of a factor..
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Message 92852 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 2:12:32 UTC - in response to Message 92851.  

I see what you're talking about now. Those probably need to be cleaned out for some reason.
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Message 92853 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 2:14:03 UTC
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BTW, we posted the application update and plan to make an official announcement tomorrow. Our site is getting quite a bit of traffic now but hopefully it will settle down soon.
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Message 92857 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 4:43:51 UTC - in response to Message 92503.  
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Nothing to crunch and it's been over 2 days now which is a good sign more folks are signing up. All's not lost though I'm crunching Smash Childhood Cancer at the World Community Grid until more R@H work units are released.
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Message 92867 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 7:49:50 UTC - in response to Message 92213.  

I'm running both Rosetta and Folding@home. But Folding is overwhelmed by new volunteers and they don't have enough storage so work units don't come very often.
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Message 92869 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 7:57:55 UTC - in response to Message 92867.  

I'm running both Rosetta and Folding@home. But Folding is overwhelmed by new volunteers and they don't have enough storage so work units don't come very often.


Seems like both are in the same boat. That's great - but it'll be interesting to see how each respectively handle it, and how quickly.
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Message 92870 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 7:59:41 UTC - in response to Message 92857.  
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Nothing to crunch and it's been over 2 days now which is a good sign more folks are signing up. All's not lost though I'm crunching Smash Childhood Cancer at the World Community Grid until more R@H work units are released.


Same. I did manage to snag 4 Rosetta units - but I have the capacity to run 16 tasks across my devices, so the rest are on WCG. Can't seem to get any SCC WUs either, but that's an issue I need to bring up in the WCG Forums.

Looking forward to Rosetta pumping out more WUs, regardless of whether I end up with any, tbh.

Do keep crunching - it's for a good cause, either way.
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Message 92873 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 8:45:41 UTC

Can someone please tell me why the credit for an 8 hour work unit has dropped to 12 to 14 points? I've had one that was just 6 points credit. Ten work units were 12 to 16 points. What's causing that? Thanks in advance for any explanation you can give me.
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Message 92875 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 9:32:44 UTC - in response to Message 92873.  

Can someone please tell me why the credit for an 8 hour work unit has dropped to 12 to 14 points? I've had one that was just 6 points credit. Ten work units were 12 to 16 points. What's causing that? Thanks in advance for any explanation you can give me.
Apparently, they're looking in to it.
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Message 92877 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 9:39:42 UTC - in response to Message 92875.  

Thank you, Grant.
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Message 92879 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 9:54:23 UTC - in response to Message 92857.  
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Nothing to crunch and it's been over 2 days now which is a good sign more folks are signing up. All's not lost though I'm crunching Smash Childhood Cancer at the World Community Grid until more R@H work units are released.


That's weird, I've done 200 WU in 4 days.
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Message 92880 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 10:14:36 UTC - in response to Message 92852.  

I see what you're talking about now. Those probably need to be cleaned out for some reason.

And done - yay!

Does this mean I can stay or is that pushing my luck #FinalWarning
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Message 92907 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 14:10:45 UTC - in response to Message 92880.  

A few things (I just recently came back to R@H):
(1). Noticed that I downloaded 4.12 of Rosetta last night. (2). downloaded "a bunch" of conducting_fibre_*_*_*_* work units that have already run 10 hours and only 63% complete (I'm using the 8 hour default) and are due APR 3. A lot are not going to make it if they run the full 16 to 20 hours. (3). Is there maintenance that happens about 0000UTC? I noticed that the scheduler was not running and many WUs were "stuck" in upload and download. It seemed to clear about 0300UTC. Is this an every night thing?
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Message 92920 - Posted: 1 Apr 2020, 14:59:10 UTC - in response to Message 92907.  

Welcome back! With some 30,000 new hosts over the last 2 days, the servers have been hammered. You are probably one of the only people with active WUs, so just keep crunching. The BOINC Manager will clean them up if they expire.
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