Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : Not clear what these 8 hour stints are.
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MAOJC Send message Joined: 19 Jan 06 Posts: 15 Credit: 2,727,567 RAC: 0 |
Can we get a bit of an explaination how that is going to work? |
N2OCapri Send message Joined: 15 Oct 05 Posts: 3 Credit: 442,931 RAC: 0 |
I to have no idea what this means ? If its been answered some where else could someone please post a link ? Cheers |
David E K Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 1 Jul 05 Posts: 1018 Credit: 4,334,829 RAC: 0 |
It's pretty simple. With the new app, all work units should run for approximately 8 hours by default. The application will figure out how many predictions to make based on this 8 hour limit which can be thought of as a "target cpu run time". You will be able to change this limit as a project specific preference. To do so: 1, click on the "Participants" link above and login if you have to. 2. click on the "View or edit Rosetta@home preferences" link. 3. click on the "Edit Rosetta@home preferences" link. 4. select a "Target CPU run time" from the pull down menu. 5. click the "Update preferences" button. |
N2OCapri Send message Joined: 15 Oct 05 Posts: 3 Credit: 442,931 RAC: 0 |
Cheers for that much appreciated. So how will this effect the points system ? Presumably the more predictions a certain computer can make in this eight hour stint means it will pick up more points ? |
Bibby Send message Joined: 26 Sep 05 Posts: 9 Credit: 771,466 RAC: 0 |
What would be the purpose, advantage or disadvantage, of altering this time parameter? |
Nightlord Send message Joined: 6 Dec 05 Posts: 5 Credit: 1,635,379 RAC: 0 |
It's pretty simple. With the new app, all work units should run for approximately 8 hours by default. The application will figure out how many predictions to make based on this 8 hour limit which can be thought of as a "target cpu run time". You will be able to change this limit as a project specific preference. To do so: How does the app know how many predictions to make within the specified run time? Is it based on the benchmarks? |
KSMarksPsych Send message Joined: 15 Oct 05 Posts: 199 Credit: 22,337 RAC: 0 |
What would be the purpose, advantage or disadvantage, of altering this time parameter? My understanding is that this is a method to deal with the bandwidth issue. If you are on dial-up or a capped high speed connection, then setting the run time high can help decrease the number of down and uploads. Kathryn Kathryn :o) The BOINC FAQ Service The Unofficial BOINC Wiki The Trac System More BOINC information than you can shake a stick of RAM at. |
Link Send message Joined: 21 Sep 05 Posts: 11 Credit: 1,145,015 RAC: 0 |
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David E K Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 1 Jul 05 Posts: 1018 Credit: 4,334,829 RAC: 0 |
The default will be the preferential setting since it will be easier for us to determine the approximate throughput to figure out how many work units to send out. This feature will not effect the crediting system. |
The Clangers Send message Joined: 21 Sep 05 Posts: 1 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
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Bibby Send message Joined: 26 Sep 05 Posts: 9 Credit: 771,466 RAC: 0 |
Cheers for clearing that up. :) |
N2OCapri Send message Joined: 15 Oct 05 Posts: 3 Credit: 442,931 RAC: 0 |
So basically if we are happy at the moment with our preferences then we should leave well alone ? many thanks |
TPR_Mojo Send message Joined: 20 Sep 05 Posts: 4 Credit: 684,947 RAC: 0 |
ummm - where does the "science" stand on this? I used to download one unit, run to completion, download another. Is it the case that I could have saved hours of processing time by just killing the unit? What drove this timeout decision? Give us a clue....... |
David E K Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 1 Jul 05 Posts: 1018 Credit: 4,334,829 RAC: 0 |
This change does not affect the science. Generally, our goal is to predict a large number of protein structures and we can achieve this with both methods. For example, instead of sending out 1,000 work units that make 10 predictions each for a total of 10,000 predictions, we can now determine the average number of predictions per work unit on our new RALPH test server and make an estimate of how many work units to send to clients. So if the average is 20 predictions per work unit on our test server, then we would send out 500 work units to get back roughly 10,000 predictions from our production server. Since we benefit from as much sampling as possible, the more predictions the better. So if 500 work units were not enough, we would just send more to crunch. |
Hoelder1in Send message Joined: 30 Sep 05 Posts: 169 Credit: 3,915,947 RAC: 0 |
... we can now determine the average number of predictions per work unit on our new RALPH test server and make an estimate of how many work units to send to clients. Since you now seem to pre-run each new WU on RALPH to determine the average number of predictions, you could also determine the average claimed credit per prediction on RALPH, then pass this number to the production server WUs and have them claim that number times the performed predictions as credit (reminds me of the pseudo-rd. discussion we once had around here) ... |
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