Posts by Dusty

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 78676)
Posted 2 Sep 2015 by Dusty
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Two of our servers went down again. We are currently looking into it. Hold tight.


All server status shows disabled except for the data-driven web pages, yet my completed tasks are being successfully uploaded. However, I am not receiving credit for any of the uploads. Will I receive credit for them later?
Well, server status shows all green but for "file deleter".

The account info shows updated stats but it looks like the stats XML files aren't generated as none of the external stats sites are showing any updates for now...

Ralf

I see that BOINC stats for the world isn't showing any rac for 31 Aug (understandable since the servers were down) or the 1st--which I don't understand since I started receiving credits yesterday afternoon. I'm not sure what time BOINC stats for the world gets the data, but I'm sure it's after midnight GMT, so there should have been some credits available for posting.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 78670)
Posted 1 Sep 2015 by Dusty
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Two of our servers went down again. We are currently looking into it. Hold tight.


All server status shows disabled except for the data-driven web pages, yet my completed tasks are being successfully uploaded. However, I am not receiving credit for any of the uploads. Will I receive credit for them later?
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 78666)
Posted 1 Sep 2015 by Dusty
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Two of our servers went down again. We are currently looking into it. Hold tight.


Thanks for the heads up. I couldn't access the server status page to check, so that server must be down too.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 78654)
Posted 31 Aug 2015 by Dusty
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Dusty, I'd wait and give it some time. The servers should eventually take your results. I'm pretty sure it was a campus wide power outage we had and maybe the mail servers had issues also. It's odd that the email to me was bounced back otherwise.



Ok, thank you! I'll wait and won't abort the completed tasks. Thank you for the reply!

As for the email getting kicked back, I sent it to dekim@u.washington.edu, which is I believe what you spelled out in your forum note.

I was watching the server status all day yesterday. Four of eight rah_make_work servers showed "Not Running", in addition to the file_deleter and db_purge servers were "Not Running."



You were definitely more attentive than I! A couple of the webservers were not started up. I just did, so maybe that will get things moving.


Great! At the same time you were doing that, I started rebooting all my machines, and I watched as the "Uploading" status changed to "Ready to Report."

Many thanks!
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 78652)
Posted 31 Aug 2015 by Dusty
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Dusty, I'd wait and give it some time. The servers should eventually take your results. I'm pretty sure it was a campus wide power outage we had and maybe the mail servers had issues also. It's odd that the email to me was bounced back otherwise.



Ok, thank you! I'll wait and won't abort the completed tasks. Thank you for the reply!

As for the email getting kicked back, I sent it to dekim@u.washington.edu, which is I believe what you spelled out in your forum note.

I was watching the server status all day yesterday. Four of eight rah_make_work servers showed "Not Running", in addition to the file_deleter and db_purge servers were "Not Running."
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 78649)
Posted 31 Aug 2015 by Dusty
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I just noticed this. If any of you see issues with our servers etc, please feel free to email me directly at dekim at u dot washington dot edu. I sent a trouble ticket to our sys admins and am waiting for a response. It looks like a couple of our servers are unresponsive and is highly likely due to the power outage we had this weekend here in Seattle due to wind storms. The lab's FoldIt project has also been affected.



I tried the email address you provided, but the email was kicked back to me. I then posted the question on this forum.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 78647)
Posted 31 Aug 2015 by Dusty
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I just noticed this. If any of you see issues with our servers etc, please feel free to email me directly at dekim at u dot washington dot edu. I sent a trouble ticket to our sys admins and am waiting for a response. It looks like a couple of our servers are unresponsive and is highly likely due to the power outage we had this weekend here in Seattle due to wind storms. The lab's FoldIt project has also been affected.


Now that the server status shows everything up and over a million tasks available for download, I am wondering why the only machine of mine that received new tasks since the servers came back online was one that I just installed BOINC on today.

All my other machines have dozens of completed tasks from over the weekend waiting to upload. While I can understand that there may be a bottleneck for uploads and downloads, the fact that the machine I just started up today downloaded new tasks right away has me worried.

Will the system accept all the tasks my systems did over the weekend while the servers were down, or did the system crash make all of my downloaded tasks worthless? Am I going to have to abort all of these tasks stuck in my queue as “Uploading” before any new tasks download?

I have a lot of time invested in these tasks, so I do not want to abort them unless absolutely necessary.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 78629)
Posted 30 Aug 2015 by Dusty
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[quote]According to the server status board. Several boxes are down right now:

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_status.php

Thanks for the link! I see that 4 "make work" servers are down, but all of the "assimilators" are up, so I wonder why none of my completed tasks are uploading. Perhaps the "db_purge" server is key to accepting uploads.
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 78624)
Posted 30 Aug 2015 by Dusty
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There was a big windstorm in the Pacific Northwest yesterday. Power was cut to the University of Washington: I believe it's been restored but would assume Rosetta@home is in recovery mode.


If that's the case, do you have any idea why I have still been able to download new tasks the entire time--just unable to upload?


I'm not affiliated with the project and was really just speculating. But there are multiple servers: perhaps the file system of one but not the rest became corrupt and needs to be restored.

Or something.


I just went through all my active tasks, and although most uploads from each of my computers aren't successful, occasionally some task uploads have been successful in the last two days. So it seems like however many servers are still working, the number must be significantly reduced, but not all servers are down.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 78623)
Posted 30 Aug 2015 by Dusty
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There was a big windstorm in the Pacific Northwest yesterday. Power was cut to the University of Washington: I believe it's been restored but would assume Rosetta@home is in recovery mode.


If that's the case, do you have any idea why I have still been able to download new tasks the entire time--just unable to upload?


I'm not affiliated with the project and was really just speculating. But there are multiple servers: perhaps the file system of one but not the rest became corrupt and needs to be restored.

Or something.


You might be right. I thought there might be some word from a Moderator regarding the status, but I appreciate your insight too!
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 78620)
Posted 30 Aug 2015 by Dusty
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There was a big windstorm in the Pacific Northwest yesterday. Power was cut to the University of Washington: I believe it's been restored but would assume Rosetta@home is in recovery mode.


If that's the case, do you have any idea why I have still been able to download new tasks the entire time--just unable to upload?
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 78616)
Posted 30 Aug 2015 by Dusty
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Most of my machines are reporting upload timeouts. Here's an example:

8/30/2015 1:47:31 PM | rosetta@home | Started upload of gr081015_HEEHheeh_go3_nods_new_heeh_5.bp_r22_pass_20150720225429_fragments_fold_SAVE_ALL_OUT_279062_30_0_0
8/30/2015 1:47:53 PM | rosetta@home | Temporarily failed upload of gr081015_HEEHheeh_go3_nods_new_heeh_5.bp_r22_pass_20150720225429_fragments_fold_SAVE_ALL_OUT_279062_30_0_0: connect() failed
8/30/2015 1:47:53 PM | rosetta@home | Backing off 00:02:53 on upload of gr081015_HEEHheeh_go3_nods_new_heeh_5.bp_r22_pass_20150720225429_fragments_fold_SAVE_ALL_OUT_279062_30_0_0
8/30/2015 1:47:54 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
8/30/2015 1:47:55 PM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

This problem started yesterday afternoon.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : How many people are crunching Rosetta? (Message 52538)
Posted 16 Apr 2008 by Dusty
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It was a lot more fun in the 80s.... I do miss those days.

I do have fun, and one of these days I'll see that I hit the lowest energy level of the day. That is my personal goal; hopefully before I deploy.

Well, I spoke a little soon ...

Hydrogen and YoYo did odd things ... the H people say they have a fix in so I am going to try again with three more tasks.

I could not figure out where to go in YoYo, so for the moment I put them on the shelf for a later date.

Should be about 3-4 new projects tomorrow ... Though I will be "balancing" my contributions to meet the goals I have (a secret) I have set for myself ... the good news is that I have been hitting some already ...

But, that it the point of BOINC, you gotta have fun...

I stopped having fun at 18 so quit at 20 ... did 6 years with the Air Force at McClellan AFB and that was interesting ... but my son-in-law (SeaBee) looks to be closing out in a couple years ...

14) Message boards : Number crunching : How many people are crunching Rosetta? (Message 52519)
Posted 16 Apr 2008 by Dusty
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USS Vella Gulf (CG72). An AEGIS Guided Missile Cruiser out of Norfolk, VA.

25 years so far, about 14 of them at sea. Going for 30.

No spouse, but no offence taken. I've been checking the website to make sure the machines are still uploading WU's so it looks good so far. I take my laptop aboard with enough WU's to keep it busy for a week or so at a pop.

Yes, I noticed that you are wrapped up in whole bunch of projects!

But I thank you for your answer! Thanks for taking the time to do so. I WILL read your threads, but I am currently at sea and our bandwidth (and spare time) is severely limited. I left my machines running at home, however (hope the place doesn't melt down).


Think of it as a letter from home ... :)

What ship? I deployed on USS Midway (2x), USS COnstellation, and USS KItty Hawk (7 years 1 month 21 days sea service time - though not all at sea of course)

I am interested in doing the most good with my machines, which is why I looked at all of the available projects on boinc before choosing to stick with Rosetta. When I deploy in August, those machines will have to be shut down until I get back 6 months later, however.


RaH is a pretty good choice, though it does not hold my heart as others do, that is just a personal thing, I tend towards the non-biological projects by choice. I am trying to get enthoused about math projects ...

The best news, if you look at my signature is that I have been playing with plenty of projects, and, all things considered, they are running well ...

I forget how I did remote monitoring, I think just by watching the project logs on the web sites to see if they were still returning work ... you could just let them run ... if they roll over ... have the spouse turn off the machine affected. (My memory says you mentioned a spouse, if there is none, I hope you take no offense).

Take care, and thanks for all you have done and continue to do!


15) Message boards : Number crunching : How many people are crunching Rosetta? (Message 52515)
Posted 16 Apr 2008 by Dusty
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But I thank you for your answer! Thanks for taking the time to do so. I WILL read your threads, but I am currently at sea and our bandwidth (and spare time) is severely limited. I left my machines running at home, however (hope the place doesn't melt down).

I am interested in doing the most good with my machines, which is why I looked at all of the available projects on boinc before choosing to stick with Rosetta. When I deploy in August, those machines will have to be shut down until I get back 6 months later, however.

Take care, and thanks for all you have done and continue to do!

Mark


Can you elaborate on what you mean by " long range self help?"

No one will thank you for this question ...

The easiest way I can think to answer your question is to tell you to read this thread in its entirety, then the follow on thread and, um, this post and watch this movie ...

The other thing you can do is to read my post log starting from about here and read forward from there (just subtract 10 from the number at the top and read back till you get bored...)


In the fastest terms since no one these days seems to want to understand anything, or even answer questions (ABC forum example);

1) BOINC is hard and boring ...
2) Projects retreat into what I call their "ivory tower" and concentrate only on today's problems
3) the environment is toxic and hostile

And when someone tries to raise issues/questions, the problem/fault is with the person asking the question and not with the object of the question.

The last post in the ABC thread is the person pointing out that I am a whiner and that this person cannot wait until I leave doing BOINC ... other critiques are that I am a LONG WINDED, non-specific, whiner ...

So, how do they do self help ... well, collaborate for one... the projects are not isolated. The actions of one idiot on ABC, SaH, or RaH can lose a participant for a number of projects. For one thing, the guy that has taken a dislike of me on ABC is likely to be on this project also ... and many other projects also ... and looking at his link, so he is ...

But one thing he did say is true, two years ago, I did stop doing BONC, I stopped for many reasons, among the reasons was the prevalence of people like him ... now, *MY* opinion, if he/she cared as much about BOINC and BOINC projects he/she would be doing all that was in his power to understand the other person and try to do everything in his/her power to keep that person on board ...

Oh, it is also true that I am mentally ill, and I did stop doing BOINC in tears, and with encouragement like his/hers well ... do I really want to live in a neighborhood where people treat people like that?

Anyway, some homework for you if you are serious with your question ...

16) Message boards : Number crunching : How many people are crunching Rosetta? (Message 52487)
Posted 15 Apr 2008 by Dusty
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I remember; I got help merging my old email address account with this new one, and I've had to rebuild systems and then merge results...

I understand that folks might bounce from project to project--particularly with limited resources to throw at each project. I played around with SETI for a while but decided that finding ET was not as helpful to humanity as finding a cure for cancer. I was enrolled in an Oxford cancer research program a few years back, but that research ended. With the advent of BOINC, it seems much easier to be able to divide resources, and I think that was a big step forward.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by " long range self help?"

That's pretty depressing. Out of all the available projects for BOINC, it seemed to me that Rosetta could do the most good.

Also look at WCG and Malaria another two that can have fairly immediate impacts.

What Paul failed to point out was that the user rentension figures are basically the same for all BOINC projects.


And that makes is somehow better? :)

Sorry, but, this is an issue I have been trying to get projects to wake up about because it is NOT as inevitable as it might seem, and the costs of addressing it are not as high as most people assume. The trouble is that projects are so focused on day-to-day minutia that they lose sight of long range 'self-help' that could start to turn this around.

17) Message boards : Number crunching : How many people are crunching Rosetta? (Message 52473)
Posted 15 Apr 2008 by Dusty
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Thanks, I feel welcome!!!

Dang nice RAC, Chief...

Welcome aboard !

18) Message boards : Number crunching : How many people are crunching Rosetta? (Message 52472)
Posted 15 Apr 2008 by Dusty
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That's pretty depressing. Out of all the available projects for BOINC, it seemed to me that Rosetta could do the most good.

I remember reading that prostate cancer would also be a future project for Rosetta. Having relatives with prostate cancer (and also a recent personal scare which turned out to be benign), I am hoping to be able to help out in that area as well.
-Mark

They use the data dumps from the projects to determine the numbers ... there is of course some fluctuation as some of us are intermittent in doing work ..., but the order of magnitude is reasonable ...

For me, the thing to take away from that number is that 75% of the people that tried Rosetta, left ...

to me the most depressing aspect of this is that *I* think that the project could improve on those numbers ... if only ... and there is a song about that I thing ...

19) Message boards : Number crunching : How many people are crunching Rosetta? (Message 52451)
Posted 14 Apr 2008 by Dusty
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I've been scouring the Statistics pages trying to find the total number of people participating in Rosetta, but I've been unsuccessful. Would someone point me in the right direction? Thanks.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Strange problem with dual Xeon machine (Message 52285)
Posted 5 Apr 2008 by Dusty
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WOOOOOOOTTT!

Ok, the last series of 8 WU's were in the 10ksec range and had granted credits in the mid-50s. Much better than the 10-15 I was getting before!!!

Thanks to everyone for all the great advice. I learned a whole lot about CPU and memory performance, not to mention all those pesky BIOS settings that can really cripple a system.

I'm still looking forward to seeing if my memory bandwidth efficiency improves with the addition of a video card instead of using the MB video, but otherwise I'm much happier with the results!

You can also get odd results in the case of using "oversized" ram sticks ... in other words, but using the 4G sticks the system is fumbling around confused by the "excess" ... it has been so long since I have struggled with these issues that I cannot offer more.

According to manual the board supports upto 128 GB memory, with 8 GB-dimms, but it's possible win32 gets confused by so much memory...


Long time since last, Paul. :)




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