Is Rosetta@home still running? I've been a member of this project for years, and I'm not getting any tasks. I looked at my Projects page and it says "Won't get new tasks." What did I do? How do I get new tasks?

It's time for SSEx/Avx support??

Are there even any x86-64 CPUs without at least SSE2 support?

SSE2 from Wiki:

Introduced by Intel with the initial version of the Pentium 4 in 2000... AMD added support for SSE2 in 2003

[snip]

Yes, smt/hyper threading is off. The point is though, on my Intel laptops, the speed has remained the same between 4.07 to 4.12. On my tr it's dropped over 60% regardless of what I try, I can't put it much simpler than that.

Note that all of your Intel laptops have a much lower number of cores, and will therefore have much less of a problem with too many cores trying to share the limited speed path to main memory. I can't put it much simpler than that, either.

4.07 is the reference yes. 4.12 is 60% slower than that, I don't know what is so difficult to understand, it's has nothing to do with memory or anything else. You dont have a 64/128 chip to only run it on 5 cores to keep the same productivity because of a software change. Is there a mod/developer that can possibly comment on this issue?

So maybe allow repeated attempts to download for a maximum 24hrs, else abort? But could be a loss of connectivity at the user end, or at the project end?

Yes, some means for BOINC to give up is required. Perhaps it should wait even longer if the file is "particularly large" (intentionally left for others to define). The other issue is that in the case here at R@h the problems seemed to be with small files, but the small file was required to run a given WU. That WU might have had many GBs of other required files that came down ok. So the actual size of the particular file having problems is not really the only consideration. If you abort the WU, all of the WU files are being lost (unless other WUs your machine has on-board use them as well).

I should think the BOINC Manager can see the difference between a lack of connectivity being the cause, and a dropped frame. So that info. could be used. If there was a loss of connectivity, then perhaps you double the maximum timeout.

...all good discussion for BOINC message boards.

Connectivity detection is also partially broken in BOINC clients:
If BOINC client can not download file or contact project server it contacts "reference site" which is google.com for last few years.
If it get "HTTP 200 - OK" response from google - all work as expected: BOINC understands there are problem with particular project but Internet connection is OK and proceeds with other projects.

But if google return any other response(not "200 OK") - BOINC stupidly interprets it as connectivity issues (no internet connection) and temporarily ceases all internet activity and increase "back-off" timer each time.
And Google often returns other codes - because a lot of such similar automated requests from thousands of computers around the world running BOINC often trigger the anti-bot filters of Google (it blocks such requests and offers to solve CAPTCHA to continue work). BOINC of course can not understand it and react to this by declaring "connectivity issues".

Although the fact that it was able to get an error message from Google (no matter which and for what reason) means the exactly opposite - that the Internet connection is working OK.

I was surprised when I saw a comment from someone who had queue for a couple of days. I joined the project about 10 days ago and I usually got 2-3 extra tasks besides the 12 running tasks. My tasks take 7-8 hours to complete so I never got a large queue. Wonder why there's such a big difference.

Also since yesterday I didn't receive any new tasks and I'm now running the last 5 tasks.

Klimax, why don't you go ahead and take a dump and EMail it to me, along with details on what you observered with it as it ran. I will forward it to the Project Team.

Hello.
Following task (http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=225859224) is suspended as it has produced "accepted energy": QNAN(Not a Number?) and RMSD: QO.Model number 25 step 9518. Running time: 20h 2min 21sec.
Set runtime 24h.
For now suspended.No crash before.
OS:Windows 7 beta.I can create dump file using task manager.

Should I let it try to finish?

Thanks

I'd suggest allowing it to run normally. Was it still using CPU time? If you want to kind of cut it off, but get it to report in, let it run, then exit (not close) BOINC and restart it, let it run about 2 minutes, then exit again and restart, until you've done that 5 times and the task should be ended and report in with "too many restarts".

Hi,
I have been crunching for Seti@Home for one year now and have used an optimized version of the crunching program. This results in much higher performance.
I was wondering if Rosetta@Home also has an optimized version? At the moment I see in my Rosetta Projects folder the following files:
minirosetta_1.47_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
minirosetta_graphics_1.40_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
rosetta_beta_5.98_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Are these files the "normal" programs to be used or is there an optimized version among them already? Btw, which program does what?

Agreed.

At least there has been very recent communication from the Project that they will again be in contact with MS re a possible xBox application.

Not certain why the xBox appears to be preferred over the PS3, but if they eventually do develop an xBox app, there is hope for (imho, the superior) PS3.

I am cautiously optimistic that this is not just talk, but real action on the part of the Project.

In the interim, both of my PS3's are crunching for F@H, and when I get around to installing linux, I'll likely do some crunching for PS3Grid and yoyo@Home's OGR wrapper.

And never ever there was false positive or false negative!

I'll join in for the heck of it.

One day I woke up to my computers and half of my customers' computers having AVG reporting files within QuickBooks as a virus. More specifically, they were Help Files made in Macromedia/Adobe Flash, to which I can only assume other products were affected as well. As far as false negatives, I've seen a decent chunk of spyware that has just flown right over AVG at the time of infection.

No one is perfect; you're bound to have some problem with just about anything. AVG works relatively well; now if only it scanned a little faster, had more malware cleaning tools built-in rather than sometimes directing the user to an external tool, and that incident mentioned above didn't happen...

I chose NOD32 because, when I used the trial (simply for comparative purposes), it scanned a heck of a lot faster than any other virus scanner I've seen, and because I've seen it catch a few things, some of which were quite nasty, that others let by. However, I've also seen it let a few things slip by as well, so it's not perfect either. If only this incident with Minirosetta didn't happen...

Although the problem is gone, for future reference, you can set exclusions in many Anti-Virus programs to temporarilly ignore false positives. When NOD32 on my computer started griping about minirosetta, I just told it to exclude *minirosetta*, and problem solved. Of course, for those a bit more paranoid, you could be more specific, only whitelisting it from the bakerlab.org site and in the RALPH/Rosetta Folders in BOINC.

Also, cleaning a computer is usually a different story than preventing the problem. Heck, most of the computers I've had to clean involved me finding a third-party freeware tool designed specifically to cure a common virus/malware/et cetera. Otherwise, AVG Anti-Malware with all it's bells and whistles can scan not only files but also the registry, making it more ideal for cleaning a computer, while NOD32 has it's own set of bells and whistles (remembering these are two different products), most of which focused on preventing anything from getting in in the first place.

Don't get me wrong... I'll usually reccomend AVG, among one or two other free ones, simply because most people I know don't want to pay for an Anti-Virus (although some, after trying the free AVG, will in fact pay for one of the full-blown versions), and most of the computers that I put AVG on usually die of old age before they get another virus... most.

Just my five cents.

i just put it on 2 hours. :)

Small warning:Some decoys wil take more than two hours so do not be suprised,that it will not honour exactly setting in such case.(So far however this long tasks are rare...for now :-) )

what are decoys??

i just put it on 2 hours. :)