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mikey![]() Send message Joined: 5 Jan 06 Posts: 1895 Credit: 8,895,413 RAC: 409 ![]() |
I didn't realise we were talking about a setting on the server. Whenever I join something like a project or play a new computer game, etc, etc, the first thing I do is adjust all the settings, so I'll have done that a long time ago when I used WCG in the past. Do you mean in the device profile, under project limits? All mine say unlimited, I probably did that a while back. Yes, under the default device profile, Project Limit for African Rainfall Project showed "1" - now changed to "Unlimited" I'd never been into the default profile option before for any reason, let alone set a custom default profile. I've never really understood WCG so I've previously left well alone.[/quote] Just be careful as they take alot of memory and running ie 24 of them on a Threadripper can quickly run out of memory. |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2059 Credit: 40,463,815 RAC: 1,453 ![]() |
Just be careful as they take alot of memory and running ie 24 of them on a Threadripper can quickly run out of memory. I wish! I don't think they're any bigger than the Rosetta tasks we've had here in the past, are they? ![]() ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 16 Jun 08 Posts: 1227 Credit: 14,140,275 RAC: 238 |
Just be careful as they take alot of memory and running ie 24 of them on a Threadripper can quickly run out of memory. Didn't you notice that the message you replied to wasn't about Rosetta tasks? |
sombraguerrero Send message Joined: 5 Mar 18 Posts: 8 Credit: 617,193 RAC: 0 |
WCG ARP units can get upwards of about 3/4 of a Gigabyte when they're fresh, possibly closer to a Gig at points. So it's not too much for most modern systems to handle, but it's enough that most people probably wouldn't want more than one. Rosetta units do tend to stay pretty steadily in the lower hundreds of Megabytes. It's just a question of knowing how much RAM you have and whether or not you tend to need RAM for a lot of other things. |
![]() Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1611 Credit: 16,521,941 RAC: 3,372 ![]() |
Rosetta units do tend to stay pretty steadily in the lower hundreds of Megabytes.At the moment. There have been times when most of them were around 1GB, with some around 3GB. Allowing 1.3GB of RAM per Task means you won't run in to RAM issues even when there are lots of high RAM usage Tasks being run. If you've got less than 1GB of RAM per Task then you will run in to a lack of RAM issue at some point. Grant Darwin NT |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2059 Credit: 40,463,815 RAC: 1,453 ![]() |
Just be careful as they take alot of memory and running ie 24 of them on a Threadripper can quickly run out of memory. Er… yes. That's why I said "they" (the African Rainfall tasks) are no bigger than the large Rosetta tasks we had here. My point being, if I handled the 1.4Gb & 2.3Gb Rosetta tasks, I'd be fine with <1Gb African Rainfall tasks... ![]() ![]() |
Brian Nixon Send message Joined: 12 Apr 20 Posts: 293 Credit: 8,432,366 RAC: 0 |
horns tasks in the current batch running around 4 GB each [example]Rosetta units do tend to stay pretty steadily in the lower hundreds of Megabytes.At the moment. There have been times when most of them were around 1GB, with some around 3GB. |
Jim1348 Send message Joined: 19 Jan 06 Posts: 881 Credit: 52,257,545 RAC: 0 |
horns tasks in the current batch running around 4 GB each [example] Yes, I have several. The biggest is 4.4 GB, the largest Rosetta WU I have ever seen. That is great. I size my machines to handle them. |
Brian Nixon Send message Joined: 12 Apr 20 Posts: 293 Credit: 8,432,366 RAC: 0 |
That is great.As long as we don’t get only tasks that big… I wonder how smart the server is at bundling tasks of different types when sending work to individual hosts – does it actively avoid sending all tasks of the same type, or is it random chance that we (tend to) get a mix of different types? |
Jim1348 Send message Joined: 19 Jan 06 Posts: 881 Credit: 52,257,545 RAC: 0 |
I wonder how smart the server is at bundling tasks of different types when sending work to individual hosts – does it actively avoid sending all tasks of the same type, or is it random chance that we (tend to) get a mix of different types? For the most part I get a good mix. That is probably just random, since they have a lot of sources. If you have 1 GB/core, you are usually OK, though I prefer 2 GB. |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2059 Credit: 40,463,815 RAC: 1,453 ![]() |
horns tasks in the current batch running around 4 GB each [example]Rosetta units do tend to stay pretty steadily in the lower hundreds of Megabytes.At the moment. There have been times when most of them were around 1GB, with some around 3GB. Blimey! I'm not running any atm, but I can see 4 that'll run together at some point tomorrow morning. I'll look out for that. 5 of my 8 current-running tasks are consuming less than 100Mb each. Hopefully I'll have a few of those going through around the same time as the horns ones ![]() ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1611 Credit: 16,521,941 RAC: 3,372 ![]() |
Just went through my list of Valids and found one over 5GB.horns tasks in the current batch running around 4 GB each [example] I think 2GB was the smallest. Grant Darwin NT |
Falconet Send message Joined: 9 Mar 09 Posts: 350 Credit: 1,105,396 RAC: 1 |
Looks like I have one Horns task using just over 1 GB and another using around 3.3 GB. Wonder what these are about. ![]() |
Jim1348 Send message Joined: 19 Jan 06 Posts: 881 Credit: 52,257,545 RAC: 0 |
Wonder what these are about.That is what I miss on Rosetta. They could at least give a brief description when a new project comes out. They have no problem with that on Folding or WCG, but it seems to be an insurmountable obstacle here. |
Falconet Send message Joined: 9 Mar 09 Posts: 350 Credit: 1,105,396 RAC: 1 |
Yeah, it would be nice to know. Sometimes, you can tell what it is about. COVID is COVID, MERS is coronavirus as well, VEGF seemed to have something to do with blood vessels, etc CTLA4, I believe I saw COVID on a result log the other day. But horns, I can't even attempt to guess what it may be lol ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 8 Apr 20 Posts: 30 Credit: 12,354,607 RAC: 2,757 ![]() |
I suggested this a while ago, maybe the solution would be adding a new column on the client manager. If no String is provided, shows None. Otherwise, the folks who generate the work units could assign a content such as: COVID, FLU, AIDS, CANCER, ALL VIRAL, SOME VIRAL, BACTERIAL, PARASITE, OTHER. But, we also know that just as adding GPU towards the WU, this is not a trivial task, and it requires some changes. Meanwhile, I also hope they include something in these lines. |
mrchips Send message Joined: 11 Nov 09 Posts: 9 Credit: 13,651,034 RAC: 857 ![]() |
Just got "error reported by file upload server: Server is out of disk space" |
mikey![]() Send message Joined: 5 Jan 06 Posts: 1895 Credit: 8,895,413 RAC: 409 ![]() |
I suggested this a while ago, maybe the solution would be adding a new column on the client manager. The problem has always been they want us to crunch ALL the tasks not just the ones we think we like, if they did something like WCG or PrimeGrid does with the different sub-projects then yes it would work but it's not like they have alot of tasks to begin with so splitting the project wouldn't be ideal right now. |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2059 Credit: 40,463,815 RAC: 1,453 ![]() |
Just got "error reported by file upload server: Server is out of disk space" I finally reduced my runtime back to the default now we have a queue of tasks stretching into the millions. I'm not helping... ![]() ![]() |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2059 Credit: 40,463,815 RAC: 1,453 ![]() |
Just went through my list of Valids and found one over 5GB.horns tasks in the current batch running around 4 GB each [example] I've just checked mine and all went through fine on my desktop and laptop (3-4Gb), but on my mobile, even though I've set it to run only on 2 cores out of 8, I've had insufficient RAM to run 1 horns and 1 ordinary task, so I'm having to abort them on arrival unfortunately ![]() ![]() |
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