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Message 97399 - Posted: 15 Jun 2020, 15:20:23 UTC - in response to Message 97394.  

Thank you.
I had checked that the store on the phone still only supported BOINC v7.4.53 (last updated 3 Jul 2016),
and browsing to the BOINC site from the phone detected the Android device type but also only offered 7.4.53.
So if the phone doesn't have a solution, and there seems no easy way to return completed units meanwhile, is it best to suspend the project to avoid wasting new downloads,
or to do nothing and expect the project to automatically not send new work until BOINC has been updated to a suitable version for the device?

Rosetta is my primary project, so I always want to run it first, but even if you can grab tasks on later beta versions they don't run and certainly don't return successfully, so reluctantly I have to agree until a new Boinc Android version (not the current betas) finally solve the problem.

I hope someone will shout up when that finally comes to pass.

My backup project, WCGrid, runs Covid19 tasks in their Open Pandemics sub-project. I'm running that now (very badly)
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Message 97400 - Posted: 15 Jun 2020, 15:48:47 UTC - in response to Message 97398.  

After noticing a couple of completed Einstein units also well overdue and looking at the forum there, this seemed likely to be the same issue
of certification expiry that started to affect all projects on devices using BOINC below 7.10 since the last couple of weeks or so.
See https://einsteinathome.org/content/upcoming-ssltls-security-updates-old-boinc-client-support.
I then found and installed an android download for 7.16.5 from https://boinc.apk.cafe/ which seemed to overcome this ok.
[Caveat: alternatives may not yet have been beta tested enough for the store, and not being via the store is supposedly with greater risk ]
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Message 97428 - Posted: 16 Jun 2020, 18:22:56 UTC - in response to Message 97400.  

Followup - Seems there are other issues with 7.16.5 on Android with units not running.
Will uninstall this and give the phone a rest until perhaps an Android version becomes available that will run ok.
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Message 97649 - Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 16:24:59 UTC

No new tasks coming into both my systems
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Message 97650 - Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 16:28:31 UTC - in response to Message 97649.  

We're all in the same boat, dude. The only WUs going out rn appear to be resends.
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Message 97651 - Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 17:01:21 UTC

Indeed. My android phone is now doing 100% open pandemics work. It has been that way for a while.

But more recently rosetta work for my other computers has dried up.

I guess that we can celebrate the fact that we have got through all the rosetta stuff for the time being and hope that our work has been useful.
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Message 97653 - Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 17:36:06 UTC - in response to Message 97650.  

I'm getting 50% resends and 50% new work. Big batch of fresh WU's just dropped a little while ago. DL_energy_landscape_fragment naming scheme.
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Message 97655 - Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 18:10:28 UTC - in response to Message 97653.  

yep, I managed to snag a few of those. Went through them rather quickly though - so I'm mainly getting resends right now.
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Message 97659 - Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 18:19:25 UTC - in response to Message 97655.  

yep, I managed to snag a few of those. Went through them rather quickly though - so I'm mainly getting resends right now.


During the drought it might make sense to bump your WU times up. That way if you get enough work to fill your CPU's they can crunch longer and provide more data back. If there's a massive release of new WU's and the drought ends you can always go back to the standard 8hr once WU's are plentiful again.
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Message 97661 - Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 18:23:11 UTC - in response to Message 97659.  
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I bumped my runtime from 8 hours to 12, just kicked in today. I'll have to wait and see how it goes. I have a large queue of World Community Grid in the interim.
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Message 97662 - Posted: 26 Jun 2020, 21:38:16 UTC - in response to Message 97661.  

I bumped my runtime from 8 hours to 12, just kicked in today. I'll have to wait and see how it goes. I have a large queue of World Community Grid in the interim.

I did exactly the same on Wednesday, allowing one of my systems to still be finishing one task (out of 8 cores) just as the fresh supply arrived.
Not a moment too soon.

I've refilled my smallest two buffers and hope my main two can look after themselves until I get back to them on Sunday morning.
Hopefully the current supply lasts that long - at least I'll miss the rush by then
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Message 97837 - Posted: 30 Jun 2020, 19:17:45 UTC - in response to Message 97651.  

Indeed. My android phone is now doing 100% open pandemics work. It has been that way for a while.

But more recently rosetta work for my other computers has dried up.

I guess that we can celebrate the fact that we have got through all the rosetta stuff for the time being and hope that our work has been useful.


Same here. I had switched my phone to Open Pandemics when Rosetta stopped working on Android, but a few days ago my computer stopped getting Rosetta work, too. It finished the tasks it was working on, and then said there are no new tasks available. But the server status says:

As of 30 Jun 2020, 19:06:15 UTC [ Scheduler running ]
Total queued jobs: 5,184,816
In progress: 648,852
Successes last 24h: 479,066
Credits last 24h : 108,511,581

So it seems like other people are still getting new tasks? So, what's going on???
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Message 99349 - Posted: 20 Oct 2020, 5:10:59 UTC

Good morning. There are no new tasks in the server. The issue started no later than on Sunday afternoon (probably sooner). Any update on this?
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Message 99351 - Posted: 20 Oct 2020, 18:29:51 UTC - in response to Message 99349.  
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Same here. Last task completed and validated at 6:54 UTC today. No new tasks.
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Message 99353 - Posted: 20 Oct 2020, 21:48:52 UTC - in response to Message 99351.  

And the lack of information about what is going on is, as usual, distressing.
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Message 99354 - Posted: 21 Oct 2020, 0:59:40 UTC - in response to Message 99353.  

Same here. I thought it was an attempt to force me to switch to the secure web site. I finished all tasks, deleted the project and reloaded. But no tasks.
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Message 99355 - Posted: 21 Oct 2020, 4:01:07 UTC

Looking at the Server Status and it shows 0 for Unsent work units- probably why none of us have received anything new. As to why it's 0....
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Message 99356 - Posted: 21 Oct 2020, 9:55:43 UTC - in response to Message 99355.  

Looking at the Server Status and it shows 0 for Unsent work units- probably why none of us have received anything new. As to why it's 0....


Have any of you stopped to think that maybe, just maybe, there isn't any work left to do? The scientists are all on the labwork section? We're helping them do science, part of it. It's not the end of the world when work runs out. There are other projects you can do aswell. World Community Grid does similar stuff.
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Message 99358 - Posted: 21 Oct 2020, 12:41:08 UTC - in response to Message 99356.  

Looking at the Server Status and it shows 0 for Unsent work units- probably why none of us have received anything new. As to why it's 0....


Have any of you stopped to think that maybe, just maybe, there isn't any work left to do? The scientists are all on the labwork section? We're helping them do science, part of it. It's not the end of the world when work runs out. There are other projects you can do aswell. World Community Grid does similar stuff.


I did think of that. But the server status says,

Tasks ready to send 28139
Tasks in progress 432083


I hope what that means is that our jobs will resume shortly.
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Message 99359 - Posted: 21 Oct 2020, 12:50:07 UTC - in response to Message 99358.  
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Looking at the Server Status and it shows 0 for Unsent work units- probably why none of us have received anything new. As to why it's 0....


Have any of you stopped to think that maybe, just maybe, there isn't any work left to do? The scientists are all on the labwork section? We're helping them do science, part of it. It's not the end of the world when work runs out. There are other projects you can do aswell. World Community Grid does similar stuff.


I did think of that. But the server status says,

Tasks ready to send 28139
Tasks in progress 432083


I hope what that means is that our jobs will resume shortly.


I don't know why the server status of this project and most others is hiding information. The front page of Rosetta shows the real queue of jobs, which I've seen as high as 15 million. The server status only goes up to 30 thousand. I've been watching the front page over the last few days and it's dropped to 0 a few times, it's wavering about, with far less in progress than usual. Seems clear to me there just isn't much work to do right now.

My computers are getting Rosetta work sporadically, I don't think there's a server problem. When there's some in the queue, I get given them. When they can't get any, they can do WCG instead.

Try a project like Climate Prediction, you can go for a month without work. It's no big deal when there are about 50 projects to choose from, and Boinc is designed to allow you to do several.
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