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Message 92710 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 5:39:34 UTC

Why don't the Rosetta stats sent to Free-DC update more often?
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Message 92712 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 6:28:18 UTC

Still unable to report, the Scheduler has been down for a while now (3+hrs).
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Message 92713 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 6:38:54 UTC - in response to Message 92683.  

Hi,
My PC crashed and I had to install the OS again (VM Ubuntu) and gave it the same name synstem name as the install before. After that I Insatlled Boinc and set up R@H.
But now I don't get any new tasks. I just keep getting the message: "Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks. No tasks sent"
On my other PC I still get new tasks sent.
Is it because the tasks that where there before the crash still are "open" ? Well, they will not be procecced by me....
I also used in Boinc the button " reset project" but that didn't help in any way.
Is there something else I have to do?


It's not your end. Rosetta is out of WUs. The latest updates from a Project Administrator: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=13533&postid=92681#92681
So don't worry. Most people aren't getting new WUs right now. The WUs you were using, were likely redeployed, or the system will take a few days to realize that you stopped working on those WUs.[/url]


Thanks for your answer yourik.
A good thing that there are updates comiming up.
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Message 92714 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 6:39:15 UTC - in response to Message 92712.  
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Rosetta appears to be down for maint?
31-Mar-20 2:12:46 PM | Rosetta@home | Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance
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Message 92727 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 11:21:57 UTC - in response to Message 92685.  

There are no silly questions. But HT is enabled. Here are the other BIOS options about performance (last word is the current setting):
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Technology Default - Enabled Enabled
ACPI SLIT Default - Enabled Enabled

Node Interleaving Default - Disabled Disabled
Intel NIC DMA Channels (IOAT) Default - Enabled Enabled
HW Prefetcher Default - Enabled Enabled
Adjacent Sector Prefetch Default - Enabled Enabled
DCU Stream Prefetcher Default - Enabled Enabled
DCU IP Prefetcher Default - Enabled Enabled
QPI Snoop Configuration Default - Home Snoop Home Snoop
QPI Home Snoop Optimization Default - Directory + OSB Enabled
QPI Bandwidth Optimization (RTID) Default - Balanced Balanced
Memory Proximity Reporting for I/O Default - Enabled Enabled
I/O Non-posted Prefetching Default - Enabled Enabled
NUMA Group Size Optimization Default - Clustered Clustered
Intel Performance Monitoring Support Default - Disabled Disabled

I would compare these settings with one of your other machines that is working properly.
Node Interleaving
NUMA group size

About the only other thing I can think of would be the windows version. Are you running Home, Pro or Enterprise on it? Is it the same as the other (working) machines?


I will check the settings... All servers are running windows 2016 Std. 64bit
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Message 92746 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 14:23:17 UTC - in response to Message 92706.  

I really don't know what's wrong. I use the exact same setting on all my servers. As said, Gen8 servers, even with 64 cores are fully loaded. Gen9 servers only take half...
Any luck with this problem?
Not sure if you answered one of my earlier questions- "Are all of the threads in use on just the one CPU?"
If you run another CPU intensive programme, does it use one of the other unused threads, or does it end up on the threads presently in use?

Win Sever 2016- could it be a licencing issue? Licence is expired/no longer valid, so only 1 socket usable, even though both CPUs are detected & recognised by the OS? (never had to deal with socket/core/thread licencing myself).


All servers are fresh install. To be honest, I did not really troubleshoot any further since I was busy setting up all other hosts. This seems to be the only host with the issue. I will dig into it later tomorrow I think.

I installed boinctask to get a decent overview and it seems this specific host is not underperforming. But you are right, everything is running on only 1 CPU.

I'll come back on that later. First setting up all other hosts.
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Message 92782 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 17:33:28 UTC

Hello,
90% of the wus i uploaded today have only been awarded 8-10 points, is there a reason why these covid wus were distributed to 2 and now hardly give any points?
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=1023883360
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=1023826450
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Message 92783 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 17:45:17 UTC - in response to Message 92782.  

90% of the wus i uploaded today have only been awarded 8-10 points

I run the 18-hour work units, and see one with 38 points and several more with 64 points.

I used to post lengthy analyses trying to understand their scoring, but have given up on it.
There are more interesting things to to.
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Message 92785 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 17:57:14 UTC

na what is noticeable is all these 90% were sent 2 times, the other 10% were not and these got normal credits
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Message 92793 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 18:35:52 UTC

Some of the WUs are having problems, and without any other work on the server, it gets entirely likely that all you get are ones that others have failed on. WUs are created to only attempt running on two host machines. After that, they die.

The Project Team is working on this issue, seems to be primarily with COVID tasks.
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Message 92799 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 19:55:03 UTC

So I'm running on Fedora 31 Boinc 7.16.1 and rosetta tasks do not have the option to view the graphics to be able to see how many decoys a unit is running.

I have 12GB of Ram and a core i5 8250U cpu but only use 4 cores because of heating issues, so there should be plenty of RAM to go around for the graphics of the screensaver but it does not show as an option I can click on and is only greyed out. Anyone know why it is not available?
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Message 92812 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 21:34:37 UTC

As 21:20 UTC time I'm not getting any tasks from R@H. My computer was busy with another BOINC project for several days. I've have just logged to my Rosetta account and there is something strange. There is only 8 abandoned tasks listed while, there should be about 50 with various status. Is that normal or there is something wrong with my account?
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?userid=386774&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=0
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Message 92813 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 21:37:11 UTC

Normal that results do not stay on the website forever. Typically removed after a week or two.
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Message 92814 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 21:47:20 UTC

Due to my posts being removed for suggesting China started Coronavirus, I am withdrawing my computers from your project. I will not be told what I can and cannot say.
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Message 92818 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 22:04:58 UTC - in response to Message 92812.  
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Similar here. Website says there are 10 tasks in progress, but in boinc there is only one and not getting new ones (probably because the server thinks i have enough)

mod: changed the boinc settings, to store tasks for 1 day, the other project downloaded couple of new task, but r@h don't.
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Message 92820 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 22:17:04 UTC - in response to Message 92814.  
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Due to my posts being removed for suggesting China started Coronavirus, I am withdrawing my computers from your project. I will not be told what I can and cannot say.

I hope the door doesn't hit your rear too hard on the way out.
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Message 92821 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 22:19:21 UTC - in response to Message 92820.  

Due to my posts being removed for suggesting China started Coronavirus, I am withdrawing my computers from your project. I will not be told what I can and cannot say.


I hope the door doesn't hit your rear too hard on the way out.


So you think it's ok for a country to screw over the whole world? It came from Chinese meat markets. So did SARS, yet they didn't learn. They must be held responsible.
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Message 92824 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 22:27:35 UTC - in response to Message 92746.  
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HPE Belgium, something that may help on the server problem:

Some versions of windows automatically lock their licenses to the first hard drive they are installed on.

Has a hard drive of the server with the problem been replaced? If so, you'll need to talk to Microsoft, about how to get the license transferred to the replacement hard drive. Until then, expect to act like any license has expired.

Also, what type of license does it have? Some types do not allow use of a second CPU.
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Message 92825 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 22:32:48 UTC - in response to Message 92824.  

HPE Belgium, something that may help on the server problem:

Some versions of windows automatically lock their licenses to the first hard drive they are installed on.

Has a hard drive of the server with the problem been replaced? If so, you'll need to talk to Microsoft, about how to get the license transferred to the replacement hard drive.


Surely if the license became invalid, there would be lots of moaning by the OS about it. Also it would show as unactivated in the control panel.
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Message 92826 - Posted: 31 Mar 2020, 22:38:01 UTC - in response to Message 92825.  

HPE Belgium, something that may help on the server problem:

Some versions of windows automatically lock their licenses to the first hard drive they are installed on.

Has a hard drive of the server with the problem been replaced? If so, you'll need to talk to Microsoft, about how to get the license transferred to the replacement hard drive.


Surely if the license became invalid, there would be lots of moaning by the OS about it. Also it would show as unactivated in the control panel.


Something else to check: Is the version of Windows on the server able to use more than one CPU in the same computer?
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