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Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 4,044 |
I just attached to Cosmology@Home with my Android (yes I know they don't have Android tasks, I was testing the connection). It connected fine, to "http://www.cosmologyathome.org/" How come it wasn't redirected when it tried to log in? |
kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 272 Credit: 507,897 RAC: 137 |
I was able to open profile at cosmology@home, but then i logged out and can't log in. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 4,044 |
I was able to open profile at cosmology@home, but then i logged out and can't log in.Somebody needs to contact them. Anyone got a live contact? All my computers are still connected with Boinc, and I can turn things off and on in Boinc, I just can't to the website to change settings any more. So I can probably still do work for them ok as I've got most stuff in that project set up perfectly here. |
robertmiles Send message Joined: 16 Jun 08 Posts: 1234 Credit: 14,338,560 RAC: 826 |
I was able to open profile at cosmology@home, but then i logged out and can't log in.Somebody needs to contact them. Anyone got a live contact? I THINK I was able to find a live contact and report it. Let's watch over the next few days to see if this worked. The error was reported there months ago. http://www.cosmologyathome.org/forum_thread.php?id=7812 |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 4,044 |
I THINK I was able to find a live contact and report it.Thanks, hopefully you found someone, because there was no reply to the below link. Strange they don't already know though, unless the server is almost never looked at. If they see jobs coming through (from those of us already logged in) they might not realise. The error was reported there months ago. |
hadron Send message Joined: 4 Sep 22 Posts: 68 Credit: 1,586,757 RAC: 399 |
I was able to open profile at cosmology@home, but then i logged out and can't log in.Somebody needs to contact them. Anyone got a live contact? People have been trying for some time to contact the project head, Marius Millea, for some time. The biggest problem seems to be that he is no longer at Illinois (I believe he's now at the Poincaré Institute), and has stopped maintaining the C@H site. |
.clair. Send message Joined: 2 Jan 07 Posts: 274 Credit: 26,399,595 RAC: 0 |
Is it that the `public` that have never run a BOINC project can use http to read the forums , read only . Any account login needs https to protect username/password being stolen , read - write . The BOINC client behind boinc manager uses its own ftp to fetch and upload work wether logged in or not , web browser running or not . Or am I barking up the wrong tree . Or just plain barking . Never been to Barking , wonderfull name for a town :-) And when I posted that lot above all I got was :- "This page can not be displayed" - blank screen etc AND HAD TO TYPE IT ALL OVER AGAIN . . . nNnN nnnn fugnnn stupid interknot screw upsss so this time ile swipe/copy it first in case it duz it again |
robertmiles Send message Joined: 16 Jun 08 Posts: 1234 Credit: 14,338,560 RAC: 826 |
I was able to open profile at cosmology@home, but then i logged out and can't log in.Somebody needs to contact them. Anyone got a live contact? It now looks like he did not arrange for anyone else to take over maintaining the C@H site. If so, it's questionable for anyone to continue participating in that project. |
.clair. Send message Joined: 2 Jan 07 Posts: 274 Credit: 26,399,595 RAC: 0 |
People have been trying for some time to contact the project head, Marius Millea, for some time. The biggest problem seems to be that he is no longer at Illinois (I believe he's now at the Poincaré Institute), and has stopped maintaining the C@H site. Ben Wandelt was the original creator of cosmology@home years ago and he went `home` to Paris a few years ago , not that it matters where his feet are , just call in to the project , heck once a month would be a big improvement |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 4,044 |
Is it that the `public` that have never run a BOINC project can use http to read the forums , read only .Ah that makes sense, I wondered how Boinc was managing. Although I assume it doesn't use ftp to join the project? I got my phone to join it ok. Or am I barking up the wrong tree .I prefer Fucking in Austria, Kissing between Munich and Augsburg, Titting in Bavaria, and a Wank on a mountain in the Bavarian Alps. And when I posted that lot above all I got was :-Yeah that's happened to me. Anything written with Boinc code screws up every 5 minutes. For example, I have a Primegrid task which has taken 5 days to do 33%. So, can we guess how long the other 67% will take? Boinc says 150 days. How can a programmer be that monumentally stupid? |
robertmiles Send message Joined: 16 Jun 08 Posts: 1234 Credit: 14,338,560 RAC: 826 |
[snip] Yeah that's happened to me. Anything written with Boinc code screws up every 5 minutes. For example, I have a Primegrid task which has taken 5 days to do 33%. So, can we guess how long the other 67% will take? Boinc says 150 days. How can a programmer be that monumentally stupid? Some BOINC projects are now using a very high initial estimate for the run time, possibly in order to get an especially high priority for their tasks. GPUGRID is one of them. You need to watch how the estimated time to completion drops in order to see if that happened, |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 4,044 |
Some BOINC projects are now using a very high initial estimate for the run time, possibly in order to get an especially high priority for their tasks. GPUGRID is one of them. You need to watch how the estimated time to completion drops in order to see if that happened,No, it's just Boinc, it doesn't have a clue how to add up, it's always doing stupid stuff. Like leaving everything to the very last minute and returning tasks late. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 4,044 |
Some BOINC projects are now using a very high initial estimate for the run time, possibly in order to get an especially high priority for their tasks. GPUGRID is one of them. You need to watch how the estimated time to completion drops in order to see if that happened,If that was true, it would only work once. Boinc then adjusts using the duration correction factor. So, no point in a project doing so. |
robertmiles Send message Joined: 16 Jun 08 Posts: 1234 Credit: 14,338,560 RAC: 826 |
Some BOINC projects are now using a very high initial estimate for the run time, possibly in order to get an especially high priority for their tasks. GPUGRID is one of them. You need to watch how the estimated time to completion drops in order to see if that happened,If that was true, it would only work once. Boinc then adjusts using the duration correction factor. So, no point in a project doing so. What I'm seeing with GPUGRID work does not agree with you. The tasks start out with an expected runtime of hundreds of days (well past the deadline) and actually finish in less than two days, over and over. One possibility I've thought of - the duration correction factor works for CPU tasks, but does not work for GPU tasks. I've only seen this odd behavior on GPU tasks, GPUGRID seldom offers any CPU tasks. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
Some BOINC projects are now using a very high initial estimate for the run time, possibly in order to get an especially high priority for their tasks. GPUGRID is one of them. You need to watch how the estimated time to completion drops in order to see if that happened,If that was true, it would only work once. Boinc then adjusts using the duration correction factor. So, no point in a project doing so. I run GPU grid as well. I think what screws up BOINC time remaining is that although it is a GPU task it is running a ton of CPU processes and this backwards running is what BOINC does not understand. I am 80.80% done with the current task in 2 days and 8 hours and 42 minutes, remaining time to completion is 11 days 11 hours and 16 minutes. Somehow that does make sense. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
Cosmology, I used their fine print to get to the University's Astronomy Department and emailed them asking if they could find the right person for the BOINC side. No response so far. Doubt there ever will be. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
For those of you interested in other BOINC projects: So whats left out there for science? Denis is down with a unexpected model issue or something along those lines. WCG is barely getting by and not all projects are online and seem to kick up transient http errors by the dozens. SiDock is the only really new project kicking butt. I run a few other projects as well along with GPU Grid. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 4,044 |
What I'm seeing with GPUGRID work does not agree with you. The tasks start out with an expected runtime of hundreds of days (well past the deadline) and actually finish in less than two days, over and over.Complain to GPU Grid and suggest you might leave if they mess around. Stealing CPU time from other projects is theft. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 4,044 |
Cosmology, I used their fine print to get to the University's Astronomy Department and emailed them asking if they could find the right person for the BOINC side.Well I assume there's an Astronomy department still alive and kicking, and they'll pass it on or tell you something's not in use any more. It seems odd to me though they'd leave a server switched on with nobody doing anything. However there must be, because twice recently I've seen it grind to a halt due to lack of disk space, then suddenly there was disk space, that can only mean human intervention. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 4,044 |
So whats left out there for science? Denis is down with a unexpected model issue or something along those lines. WCG is barely getting by and not all projects are online and seem to kick up transient http errors by the dozens. SiDock is the only really new project kicking butt.I run these: Climate prediction: rare CPU tasks at the moment, but lots more coming with a new program they're writing to use multiple cores to allow more accurate research, and virtualbox so the linux stuff can be run on windows. Cosmology Denis Einstein - new radio waves research by a PhD student LHC - constant supply of single core and multicore VB work. Milkyway QuChemPedia - interesting chemistry research Rosetta Sidock TN-Grid - genetics Universe WCG - loads of work now, and I've never had a single error you speak of |
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