But enough work is not being done. The number of tasks being completed on the server status is abysmal compared to pre-VB.

You can advise Dr. Baker of that if you can get his attention on the matter at all. The fact that it hasn't been corrected seems to indicate that he does not consider it to be a big problem.
Good luck.

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But enough work is not being done. The number of tasks being completed on the server status is abysmal compared to pre-VB.

You can advise Dr. Baker of that if you can get his attention on the matter at all. The fact that it hasn't been corrected seems to indicate that he does not consider it to be a big problem.
Good luck.

Maybe they don't need the work done quickly and it's not worth the effort to sort it. For example the covid work over in WCG is being given out very slowly because apparently the scientists can't interpret the results that quickly.

Or maybe they know about the problem and the programmers are trying to fix it, but they don't have the staff to discuss it with us.

In the mean time I'll try contacting through the admin email address if I get no response from David, and keep running my working machine on the pythons, and I'll retry the other machines every so often to see if it's fixed.

It's very odd that it works fine on one of my machines and not the others. I'll try asking over in LHC what those errors mean.

I am glad that you are making the effort, but the problems that I see and you see may be different.
I have no problem getting the work, but I run my machines 24/7 and see any hangs. A lot of people reboot every day and probably don't.
And I am on Linux, whereas Windows does not seem to have the "Vm job unmanageable" problem, though there still remains a bit of the "0 CPU" problem for everyone.

They may be getting enough work back to keep them happy. We don't know. But keep at them.

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I am glad that you are making the effort, but the problems that I see and you see may be different.
I have no problem getting the work, but I run my machines 24/7 and see any hangs. A lot of people reboot every day and probably don't.
And I am on Linux, whereas Windows does not seem to have the "Vm job unmanageable" problem, though there still remains a bit of the "0 CPU" problem for everyone.

They may be getting enough work back to keep them happy. We don't know. But keep at them.

Thanks for your vote of confidence. My good machine can do them 24/7 without a problem, only one WU I've seen fail. It's on Windows 10. But my 6 bad machines get the 0 CPU thing with every single WU.

A strange thing happened to me today
I ran out of pythons :)
not one
even in the que
the big system is happily running 35 R4.2 tasks all together
rosetta is only using 11.2GB of disk space
and total system use of ram is only 17.5GB
Wot fun
it wont last
Tomorrow will be different [or rather later today]
off to bed

Ran out? You mean the server had none to give you? I can see 5000 now, alledgedly. Although my machine has been getting Sidock instead, maybe there were none left briefly.

[checks logs]

No, the server was inaccessible from about 00:30 to 02:00 UTC.

Two o'clock! Christ. I need to go to bed, I have an addiction to Fallout 4.

I can't believe the CEO doesn't care about 6 in 7 machines not doing his research. I'll be emailing the admin dude if I don't get a response soon.

I concluded some time ago that the great Dr. David Baker (who should get a Nobel Prize) turned over the management of Rosetta to others a long time ago.
And with the advent of AI, he can do more in-house anyway. As long as enough of the peripheral work is done by others, that is good enough for him.

He has more valuable uses for his time. And we have other projects if we want them.

EXACTLY

The minute he stopped writing blogs here about the research, I knew he had moved on.
When the grad students stopped writing here and the mod left I knew this was going to be a side project
Then with all the problems, DEK doesn't respond to anything and we have to figure it out on our own.
We have a spammer in the new section, they don't care.
We have problems, they don't care.
This is just like TACC, its a side project now.
Out of those 2 million tasks, just 5,000 are assigned here.

So why be surprised? Us old guys are used to this. We have seen the decline over the years.
If you got one machine that can run Python keep that running and put your other machines to work on something that does work. I would have given up long ago and moved on.

I don't think he has exactly moved on - the world of protein simulation and design has become incredibly successful so he is in huge demand. It has been a long road of steady improvement, but the huge breakthrough send to have been Alphafold 2, which had then also led to RoseTTAFold.
E.g. https://www.nature.com/collections/dfejabhghd/

They will be struggling to keep up. And please don't email David Baker about Rosetta issues - the admin account is much more reasonable. It's a bit like emailing Bill Gates about problems with Windows these days! But I get that the lack of communications is very frustrating, especially given how unstable the VirtualBox tasks are.

It doesn't help that BOINC development is no longer funded because it doesn't deal with VirtualBox or GPU tasks very well IMHO.

And it also doesn't help that we don't have a mod on these forums any more.

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One of my computers, that with an AMD Ryzen 5, stil lhas Windows 10. Two others, one Intel and one AMD, have Windows 11. I use the Windows Defender as antivirus, updated almost daily. When I had another Virus defender some LHC projects wuld not run.
Tullio

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One of my computers, that with an AMD Ryzen 5, stil lhas Windows 10. Two others, one Intel and one AMD, have Windows 11. I use the Windows Defender as antivirus, updated almost daily. When I had another Virus defender some LHC projects wuld not run.
Tullio

"Still has windows 10"? Maybe I need to leave the updates running to get more chance. I disabled those pesky things because a reboot every other day is beyond a joke. I just do a manual update every 3 months. The last time was a week or so ago, and all I got was the oldest machine saying "we're working on compatibility with this processor" and the 2nd oldest saying "this is not compatible". The decent machines didn't even get a mention.

Please don't email David Baker about Rosetta issues - the admin account is much more reasonable. It's a bit like emailing Bill Gates about problems with Windows these days! But I get that the lack of communications is very frustrating, especially given how unstable the VirtualBox tasks are.

Well I wouldn't have if he had decent staff in here. Too late now anyway. I'll send the same message to the admin account. I've also asked in the virtualbox forum. LHC have been helpful but the images are different to theirs so they don't want to spend time looking into it.

And the "fun" continues.
6 plus hours for 25 mins cpu time. 4 hrs plus for completion.
CPU usage .41% or less
Just jettisoned 5 tasks.

And the "fun" continues.
6 plus hours for 25 mins cpu time. 4 hrs plus for completion.
CPU usage .41% or less
Just jettisoned 5 tasks.

I wonder if there's some way we can gather stats for how many are returned broken? The info is public, but not collated AFAIK.

Ooops, blacklisted again
That's another reason why I ran out of tasks
Time to press the button [NO!! not THE button that north korea likes to play with - just testing...]

A quick improvement would be to have a column on the "My Computers" page showing the "allow" or "skip" status for VirtualBox tasks. It would save having to click through loads of pages to work out which ones have been banned.

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A quick improvement would be to have a column on the "My Computers" page showing the "allow" or "skip" status for VirtualBox tasks. It would save having to click through loads of pages to work out which ones have been banned.

But they don't want it to be easy. Your computer is not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

Ooops, blacklisted again
That's another reason why I ran out of tasks
Time to press the button [NO!! not THE button that north korea likes to play with - just testing...]

Just checking in because I had a fair few Rosetta 4.20 tasks come down.
But I think they already ran out...

I'm useful like that

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Just checking in because I had a fair few Rosetta 4.20 tasks come down.
But I think they already ran out...

I'm useful like that

YOU!! You stole them! I wanted those. I'm going to hunt you down, and I mean physically!

A quick improvement would be to have a column on the "My Computers" page showing the "allow" or "skip" status for VirtualBox tasks. It would save having to click through loads of pages to work out which ones have been banned.

But they don't want it to be easy. Your computer is not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

Maybe that's it!

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