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Message 107244 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 19:23:15 UTC

It is impossible to call English pure, it is and always has been a cacophony of other languages. It isn't even the native language of England.
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Message 107245 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 19:48:57 UTC - in response to Message 107244.  

It is impossible to call English pure, it is and always has been a cacophony of other languages. It isn't even the native language of England.
I can't call cottage cheese pure either since it has preservative in it, but if I poured in engine oil I'd dislike it.
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Message 107246 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 19:50:07 UTC - in response to Message 107244.  
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It is impossible to call English pure, it is and always has been a cacophony of other languages. It isn't even the native language of England.



Not quite accurate:

Official native languages

English is spoken across the UK, but it is not the only native official language. You may also hear:

Welsh in Wales
Gaelic and Scots in Scotland
Irish and Ulster Scots in Northern Ireland
Cornish in Cornwall, England

https://study-uk.britishcouncil.org/why-study/about-uk/language

Or more specific from wiki:
The de facto official language of the United Kingdom is English, which is spoken by approximately 59.8 million residents, or 98% of the population, over the age of three. (According to 2011 census data, 864,000 people in England and Wales reported speaking little or no English) An estimated 900,000 people speak Welsh in the UK, an official language in Wales[19] and the only de jure official language in any part of the UK. Approximately 124,000 people speak Irish in Northern Ireland, the second most spoken language after English. In May 2022, the British Government pledged to implement an Irish language act in Northern Ireland, which would give Irish equal status to English, similar to the Welsh language act in Wales.
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Message 107247 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 19:54:41 UTC - in response to Message 107246.  
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It is impossible to call English pure, it is and always has been a cacophony of other languages. It isn't even the native language of England.
Not quite accurate:

Official native languages

English is spoken across the UK, but it is not the only native official language. You may also hear:

Welsh in Wales
Gaelic and Scots in Scotland
Irish and Ulster Scots in Northern Ireland
Cornish in Cornwall, England
Only a small minority of patriotic fools speak those dated languages. But for some reason they put it on road signs in some parts of the country. I have therefore learned the most important words in Welsh for speed camera, police, and slow. Mind you that arsehole Brunstrom has retired now.
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Message 107248 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 19:55:00 UTC - in response to Message 107245.  

It is impossible to call English pure, it is and always has been a cacophony of other languages. It isn't even the native language of England.
I can't call cottage cheese pure either since it has preservative in it, but if I poured in engine oil I'd dislike it.



Pretty good analogy, look at this confusing description: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language
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Message 107249 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 19:57:33 UTC - in response to Message 107248.  

Pretty good analogy, look at this confusing description: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language
Bring back the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire
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Message 107251 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 22:25:40 UTC

Hey guys is there anyway you can stop hijacking this thread and instead use it for what is is meant for? eg "Problems and technical issues with Rosetta@home".

By writing pages and pages of replies not related to supporting Rosetta, you actually make it far more difficult for those trying to get help, or those trying to help others.

Clearly everyone that speaks English has a view on this language, and how it is used; however this support thread is obviously not the place to have that discussion.
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Message 107253 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 22:41:29 UTC - in response to Message 107251.  

Hey guys is there anyway you can stop hijacking this thread and instead use it for what is is meant for? eg "Problems and technical issues with Rosetta@home".

By writing pages and pages of replies not related to supporting Rosetta, you actually make it far more difficult for those trying to get help, or those trying to help others.

Clearly everyone that speaks English has a view on this language, and how it is used; however this support thread is obviously not the place to have that discussion.
Ok, everyone can reply with off topic stuff in this thread I made in the cafe. https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=15073
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Message 107256 - Posted: 11 Oct 2022, 23:32:56 UTC

Does the tiny increase in the number of work units "awaiting assimilation" mean that at least some of the backlog is getting validated?
Or does it simply mean we are getting a bit closer to Borg assimilation?
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Message 107260 - Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 1:52:22 UTC

For those of you interested in other BOINC projects:

collatz has shut down, and expects a few months before it is ready to restart.

SETI@home has shut down, and plans to restart only when they get a new source of data.

cosmology@home appears to have a server problem - they've been unreachable for about a day.

RNA World stopped creating workunits over a year ago, but is still trying to get their last 20 or so workunits finished. The remaining workunits are expected to run for months each.
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Message 107261 - Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 3:01:18 UTC - in response to Message 107260.  
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cosmology@home appears to have a server problem - they've been unreachable for about a day.
Longer than that. I've been trying to give back results for about 3 days. Their server has run out of disk space. Again. I think they need some donations.
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Message 107262 - Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 3:37:17 UTC - in response to Message 107243.  
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Your name is in English and Chinese, do you consider yourself Canadian?

Yes, I do consider myself Canadian.

BTW, looks like the validator is back online. "Workunits waiting for validation" is now down to 1963435 from a bit over 2M.
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Message 107263 - Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 3:48:54 UTC - in response to Message 107262.  

BTW, looks like the validator is back online. "Workunits waiting for validation" is now down to 1963435 from a bit over 2M.
Excellent news, let's see how fast it can go, initiating timer....
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Message 107264 - Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 4:14:31 UTC - in response to Message 107236.  
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Even the Scottish phrases The Huckster disparages were not from the language of their ancestors nor of the pre-Saxon residents of Britain.
Neither do you speak like the amoebas you evolved from, what's your point?

Modern media -- TV and radio-- have homogenized the English language beyond what people 300 years ago would recognize.
I guess that's why I keep saying I guess.

Taylor Island and Smith Island, in the middle of Chesapeake Bay within the state of Maryland were settled by British people around 1608. They spoke the Elizabethan English of their period. Being isolated islands with little connection to the mainland, these farmers and fishermen had no access to TV until the 1960s. As a result of their isolation, the 20th century residents of those islands spoke the closest thing to Elizabethan English found anywhere in the world. There are recordings of them speaking so you can hear when it sounded like.
I cannot locate these recordings, do you have a link?


I heard those recordings when I was in graduate school 35 years ago. I'll try to find them. If I find them, I'll post a link or maybe a PM.

My point is that you seem to refuse to recognize that languages evolve and that what they evolve into is not necessarily better or worse than what they evolved from. People speak what they hear around them and what has relevance to their lives. Rude expressions of decades ago were the slang of yesterday and the acceptable speech of today.

You personally may not think American English is proper, but that is an ethnocentric bias. As you read this, you would have no idea whether the writer was British, American, Canadian, Australian or South African, except there might be a few minor differences in spelling. So am I communicating in proper English? You would not know unless I voiced this communication.

Fewer numbers of people worldwide are speaking what you consider the correct BBC English language. And maybe that is what you dislike.

Well, sorry, mate. Get used to it.

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Message 107265 - Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 5:15:28 UTC - in response to Message 107264.  

You personally may not think American English is proper
Off topic shit is directed to https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=15073
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Message 107273 - Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 10:03:46 UTC - in response to Message 107206.  

It was reported very late on Friday and I hoped it would get fixed before they broke for the weekend.
Now hoping for Monday


Well....no
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Message 107274 - Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 10:53:47 UTC - in response to Message 107273.  

We're back at over 2m, up from a bit over 1.91M some time yesterday.

Looks like I jinxed it, oops.
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Message 107275 - Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 10:53:51 UTC - in response to Message 107273.  
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Oh well, at least the rest of the server still works.

Here's hoping the validator gets fully fixed before the weekend.
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Message 107280 - Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 15:49:03 UTC

Validation is running.

Workunits waiting for validation	2084120
Workunits waiting for assimilation	10578
Workunits waiting for file deletion	2


After about 20 minutes.

Workunits waiting for validation	1970571
Workunits waiting for assimilation	415
Workunits waiting for file deletion	176



Will validator win against crunchers? D:
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Message 107281 - Posted: 12 Oct 2022, 15:52:01 UTC - in response to Message 107242.  
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an ass vs an ass. But both have a hole.

One has more holes.

But what's funnier is you refer to entire people as ass - even when not being rude. For example "get your ass over here". What about the rest of them? Yes ok, Americans are mainly ass because they eat so much.


No...I was just calling you an ass. :)
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