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Mr P Hucker![]() Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1532 Credit: 8,293,929 RAC: 25,405 ![]() |
But this all takes time since I run only 14 hrs a day.Lightweight, I run 10 machines 24 hours a day :-) |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 1923 Credit: 36,252,543 RAC: 24,467 ![]() |
Ooh, new batch of tasks again? No idea how big yet We could get used to this ![]() ![]() |
srettie Volunteer moderator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 10 Jul 17 Posts: 9 Credit: 50,961 RAC: 0 |
Ooh, new batch of tasks again? No idea how big yet I certainly hope so! Looks like things are running okay so far. This is batch 2. ~5mil total for this experiment on the way. |
![]() Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1710 Credit: 6,775,430 RAC: 4,353 ![]() |
Looks like things are running okay so far. This is batch 2. ~5mil total for this experiment on the way. Great!! |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 1923 Credit: 36,252,543 RAC: 24,467 ![]() |
Ooh, new batch of tasks again? No idea how big yet Because there was a slight gap between the previous batch ending and the new one being issued, my systems switched over to my backup project, so I haven't started running any yet. But the previous batch all ran successfully - no reason to think this one will be any different. Ideally, I don't want to run my backup project, so if there are any other researchers needing to have work done, send them our way and we'll get a flow going without interruptions. Things work more reliably on both sides of the server divide that way [hint][/hint] ![]() ![]() |
.clair. Send message Joined: 2 Jan 07 Posts: 247 Credit: 25,242,776 RAC: 39,018 ![]() |
Ooh, new batch of tasks again? No idea how big yet Nice to have lots of R4.2 work without problematic pythons eating my ssd :-) |
Mr P Hucker![]() Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1532 Credit: 8,293,929 RAC: 25,405 ![]() |
Nice to have lots of R4.2 work without problematic pythons eating my ssd :-)Those things last forever despite what people say. Anyway, SSDs suck, I use NVME. |
hadron Send message Joined: 4 Sep 22 Posts: 44 Credit: 155,610 RAC: 3,179 ![]() |
[quote]... SSDs suck, I use NVME. You might benefit from a good google search on NVMe. It's not what you seem to think it is. |
Mr P Hucker![]() Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1532 Credit: 8,293,929 RAC: 25,405 ![]() |
I know exactly what they are and have several, they're much faster. An SSD over SATA is far too slow, because of the SATA.[quote]... SSDs suck, I use NVME. Are you from the Android forum? |
Bryn Mawr Send message Joined: 26 Dec 18 Posts: 341 Credit: 9,684,425 RAC: 8,732 ![]() |
Any idea why completed work units are not being validated? |
![]() Send message Joined: 16 Jun 08 Posts: 1218 Credit: 13,501,079 RAC: 4,773 ![]() |
Any idea why completed work units are not being validated? Sometimes it's because they are waiting for enough other copies to complete the quorum, Sometimes it's because the validator program isn't running. |
Mr P Hucker![]() Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1532 Credit: 8,293,929 RAC: 25,405 ![]() |
There are currently a very large number waiting for validation (a third of a million). Looking at my waiting ones, and my recently validated ones, they have "minimum quorum 1" which suggests they're self checking, or the server does so, so we're waiting on the server, not any other user. Something must have gone wrong at their end.Any idea why completed work units are not being validated?Sometimes it's because they are waiting for enough other copies to complete the quorum, |
hadron Send message Joined: 4 Sep 22 Posts: 44 Credit: 155,610 RAC: 3,179 ![]() |
I know exactly what they are and have several, they're much faster. An SSD over SATA is far too slow, because of the SATA.[quote]... SSDs suck, I use NVME. Well, clearly you do not know, or you would not be suggesting that NVMe is some kind of storage device. It is not. NVMe is a host controller interface specification, the same as SATA. Thus, one might well imagine that some day, we might also see HDDs with a NVMe interface, just as we now have SSDs with a NVMe interface. |
Mr P Hucker![]() Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1532 Credit: 8,293,929 RAC: 25,405 ![]() |
I'm not interested in your OCD. I know perfectly well how all disks work and have been in the business since 1997. Please learn basic English. Here is a helper for you:I know exactly what they are and have several, they're much faster. An SSD over SATA is far too slow, because of the SATA.[quote]... SSDs suck, I use NVME. Hard disk/rust spinner = mechanical drive connected via SATA, previously IDE. Now gets up to about 170MB/s. SSD = solid state drive connected via SATA, limited by SATA to about 550MB/s. NVME = solid state drive connected directly to the motherboard using PCI express, gets up to 7000MB/s. I prefer 7000 to 550. |
Tomcat雄猫 Send message Joined: 20 Dec 14 Posts: 180 Credit: 5,162,529 RAC: 3,839 ![]() |
I'm not interested in your OCD. I know perfectly well how all disks work and have been in the business since 1997. Please learn basic English. Here is a helper for you:I know exactly what they are and have several, they're much faster. An SSD over SATA is far too slow, because of the SATA.[quote]... SSDs suck, I use NVME. SSD just means solid state drive, there is nothing that says SSDs refers only to SSDs connected via a SATA interface. Both SATA SSDs and NVMe SSDs are SSDs. That being said, Rosetta has not historically required a second computer to validate WUs. The "Server status" page claims the validator to be running. Methinks something is up with the server. |
Mr P Hucker![]() Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1532 Credit: 8,293,929 RAC: 25,405 ![]() |
SSD just means solid state drive, there is nothing that says SSDs refers only to SSDs connected via a SATA interface. Both SATA SSDs and NVMe SSDs are SSDs.A Ferrari is a car, but you wouldn't say "I own a car". That being said, Rosetta has not historically required a second computer to validate WUs. The "Server status" page claims the validator to be running. Methinks something is up with the server.Agreed. But they usually fix things quickly, at least we can pile up work for them over the weekend. Since they use SSDs and not rust spinners like some projects, it'll clear it in no time. |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 1923 Credit: 36,252,543 RAC: 24,467 ![]() |
There are currently a very large number waiting for validation (a third of a million). Looking at my waiting ones, and my recently validated ones, they have "minimum quorum 1" which suggests they're self checking, or the server does so, so we're waiting on the server, not any other user. Something must have gone wrong at their end.Any idea why completed work units are not being validated?Sometimes it's because they are waiting for enough other copies to complete the quorum, I thought I was in this thread when I just posted, so I thought no-one had picked it up yet. Yes, there's no quorum required before validation. It would be a server issue, even though the Server Status page says they're all running. Now up over 500k awaiting validation. I've emailed to report it and hope someone gets to it before everyone runs off for the weekend. The benefit of West Coast time differences... ![]() ![]() |
Mr P Hucker![]() Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1532 Credit: 8,293,929 RAC: 25,405 ![]() |
I've emailed to report it and hope someone gets to it before everyone runs off for the weekend.Who did you email? I didn't think there was anyone listening. |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 1923 Credit: 36,252,543 RAC: 24,467 ![]() |
And are running successfully, fully and with no errors on Intel, AMD and Android as well, which can't be said for everything.My 2 Androids (OS 7 and 11) are getting no tasks. Just to mention, I'm definitely getting some Android tasks among the current batch. ![]() ![]() |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 1923 Credit: 36,252,543 RAC: 24,467 ![]() |
I've emailed to report it and hope someone gets to it before everyone runs off for the weekend.Who did you email? I didn't think there was anyone listening. Only in the last half hour. I'm not long back from work myself. Give them a chance. ![]() ![]() |
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