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Message 101933 - Posted: 26 May 2021, 18:56:36 UTC - in response to Message 101921.  

To everyone fighting in here and calling names: This is bug reporting thread. Please take your argument elsewhere. Nothing you all are posting has anything to do with the point of this particular thread.

Agree. You would think it was FB or Twitter with all the nonsense being posted.
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Message 101935 - Posted: 27 May 2021, 0:10:42 UTC - in response to Message 101930.  

You missed my point entirely.
No I don't

If you're an ugly or unhealthy person, not breeding is a good idea. Why put your offspring through being like you?
I'm now wondering if you have kids.

When you say extermination, you're talking about killing those already alive. It's not murder to not be born.
I said it was genocide that you were supporting and promoting. Which you are. And you repeat for the avoidance of any doubt that I got your point very well.
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Message 101937 - Posted: 27 May 2021, 8:07:43 UTC - in response to Message 101935.  

You missed my point entirely.
No I don't

If you're an ugly or unhealthy person, not breeding is a good idea. Why put your offspring through being like you?
I'm now wondering if you have kids.

When you say extermination, you're talking about killing those already alive. It's not murder to not be born.
I said it was genocide that you were supporting and promoting. Which you are. And you repeat for the avoidance of any doubt that I got your point very well.


It’s a policy called Eugenics and the civilised world discredited it seventy years ago.

There are only two types of people that push it nowadays, neonazis on the grounds that it was their hero’s favourite and trolls on the grounds that it winds other people up.

I suggest that we stop feeding the troll.
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Message 101938 - Posted: 27 May 2021, 9:23:31 UTC - in response to Message 101932.  

To everyone fighting in here and calling names: This is bug reporting thread. Please take your argument elsewhere. Nothing you all are posting has anything to do with the point of this particular thread.
Yes mein fuhrer.


Please, admins, ban this user from forums.
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Message 101939 - Posted: 27 May 2021, 9:23:57 UTC - in response to Message 101937.  

I suggest that we stop feeding the troll.

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Message 101941 - Posted: 27 May 2021, 16:11:14 UTC - in response to Message 101935.  

You missed my point entirely.
No I don't

If you're an ugly or unhealthy person, not breeding is a good idea. Why put your offspring through being like you?
I'm now wondering if you have kids.

When you say extermination, you're talking about killing those already alive. It's not murder to not be born.
I said it was genocide that you were supporting and promoting. Which you are. And you repeat for the avoidance of any doubt that I got your point very well.
The word genocide taken literally has a very wide scope. It could be encouraging people not to breed, or it could be killing them. Guess what, the second one is a billion times worse, because well.... there's killing involved.

But when most people talk of genocide, they mean the destruction of people, by death, like Hitler gassing Jews. When did I say we should be gassing anyone? In fact I've never even said a particular race should be stopped from breeding, I said unhealthy ones. So not the same whatsoever.

What's happened here is something has triggered a conditioned response in your brain. You see "selective breeding" and invoke all the Hitler synapses. Please try to think more carefully.
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Message 101942 - Posted: 27 May 2021, 16:13:09 UTC - in response to Message 101937.  

You missed my point entirely.
No I don't

If you're an ugly or unhealthy person, not breeding is a good idea. Why put your offspring through being like you?
I'm now wondering if you have kids.

When you say extermination, you're talking about killing those already alive. It's not murder to not be born.
I said it was genocide that you were supporting and promoting. Which you are. And you repeat for the avoidance of any doubt that I got your point very well.


It’s a policy called Eugenics and the civilised world discredited it seventy years ago.

There are only two types of people that push it nowadays, neonazis on the grounds that it was their hero’s favourite and trolls on the grounds that it winds other people up.

I suggest that we stop feeding the troll.
If you had a nasty disease that you knew would be passed on, you would refrain from having kids. In fact this ALREADY HAPPENS. You can get tested for things like cystic fibrosis, you then decide not to give birth.
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Message 101943 - Posted: 27 May 2021, 16:14:27 UTC - in response to Message 101938.  

To everyone fighting in here and calling names: This is bug reporting thread. Please take your argument elsewhere. Nothing you all are posting has anything to do with the point of this particular thread.
Yes mein fuhrer.


Please, admins, ban this user from forums.
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You've asked already and they aren't listening. They have more important things to do than help you out with your net nanny censorship. Grow an extra brain cell and go find the block function in the forum.
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Message 101944 - Posted: 27 May 2021, 16:16:28 UTC - in response to Message 101943.  
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You've asked already and they aren't listening. They have more important things to do than help you out with your net nanny censorship. Grow an extra brain cell and go find the block function in the forum.

I don't want to block you.
I want you go away from this forum.
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Message 101945 - Posted: 27 May 2021, 16:19:00 UTC - in response to Message 101941.  

In fact I've never even said a particular race should be stopped from breeding, I said unhealthy ones.

So, we have to stop breeding you.
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Message 101946 - Posted: 27 May 2021, 16:26:55 UTC - in response to Message 101944.  

You've asked already and they aren't listening. They have more important things to do than help you out with your net nanny censorship. Grow an extra brain cell and go find the block function in the forum.

I don't want to block you.
I want you go away from this forum.
So you want to dictate everything for everyone and not just yourself? You should go work in politics, that's where power hungry maniacs belong.
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Message 101947 - Posted: 27 May 2021, 16:29:38 UTC - in response to Message 101945.  

In fact I've never even said a particular race should be stopped from breeding, I said unhealthy ones.

So, we have to stop breeding you.
I have not bred for two reasons. One, I admit I'm not the best looking fittest healthiest specimen around, so I let the better quality people breed. Two, the world is way too full, we should all be cutting down on breeding. If everyone used a bit of common sense and learned to abstain from having kids every 5 minutes we could have a world that wasn't overcrowded and was full of fit healthy gorgeous people. At least the UK government has stopped giving child benefits to 3rd and subsequent children.
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Message 101948 - Posted: 28 May 2021, 0:22:50 UTC - in response to Message 101941.  

You missed my point entirely.
No I don't

If you're an ugly or unhealthy person, not breeding is a good idea. Why put your offspring through being like you?
I'm now wondering if you have kids.

When you say extermination, you're talking about killing those already alive. It's not murder to not be born.
I said it was genocide that you were supporting and promoting. Which you are. And you repeat for the avoidance of any doubt that I got your point very well.
The word genocide taken literally has a very wide scope. It could be encouraging people not to breed, or it could be killing them. Guess what, the second one is a billion times worse, because well.... there's killing involved.

But when most people talk of genocide, they mean the destruction of people, by death, like Hitler gassing Jews. When did I say we should be gassing anyone? In fact I've never even said a particular race should be stopped from breeding, I said unhealthy ones. So not the same whatsoever.

The policy began as removing "life unworthy of life", so it began with mental & physical disability and made the very short jump to removing "racial impurity", where Jews, Romany, Slavs etc were considered "racially inferior" as an addition to mental or physical disability. Far from it not being the same, it was an extension of the exact same thinking.

It's more than a little pathetic to self-define it as gassing, when it was far more than that, then ask where you mentioned gassing.
It's by any method, and the method of which you approve the most is CV19, even though I've already made it very clear CV19 almost studiously avoids those in their child-bearing years, so has literally no evolutionary impact whatsoever.
It just kills people in a way you repeatedly approve of that you also describe as a billion times worse than genocide...
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Message 101951 - Posted: 28 May 2021, 17:26:50 UTC - in response to Message 101948.  

The policy began as removing "life unworthy of life", so it began with mental & physical disability and made the very short jump to removing "racial impurity", where Jews, Romany, Slavs etc were considered "racially inferior" as an addition to mental or physical disability. Far from it not being the same, it was an extension of the exact same thinking.
As I already stated, there's nothing wrong with preventing more disabled people being born, and it happens already, you can get tested for certain genes and decide not to have children. I suppose you'd say those parents are murdering someone who doesn't exist yet.

It's more than a little pathetic to self-define it as gassing, when it was far more than that, then ask where you mentioned gassing.
It's by any method, and the method of which you approve the most is CV19, even though I've already made it very clear CV19 almost studiously avoids those in their child-bearing years, so has literally no evolutionary impact whatsoever.
It just kills people in a way you repeatedly approve of that you also describe as a billion times worse than genocide...
It does not avoid those in child-bearing years. It's just less likely to kill them. But those who it does kill, it means there will be less people born with weak immune systems.
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Message 101960 - Posted: 30 May 2021, 13:54:59 UTC - in response to Message 101951.  

The policy began as removing "life unworthy of life", so it began with mental & physical disability and made the very short jump to removing "racial impurity", where Jews, Romany, Slavs etc were considered "racially inferior" as an addition to mental or physical disability. Far from it not being the same, it was an extension of the exact same thinking.
As I already stated, there's nothing wrong with preventing more disabled people being born, and it happens already, you can get tested for certain genes and decide not to have children. I suppose you'd say those parents are murdering someone who doesn't exist yet.

You "suppose" a lot for someone who can't distinguish between a policy imposed from above and any decision people make for themselves.

In your own words:
You state you're "not the best looking fittest healthiest specimen around"
You believe "If you're an ugly or unhealthy person, not breeding is a good idea. Why put your offspring through being like you?"
I'm not clear if it's because "If you had a nasty disease that you knew would be passed on, you would refrain from having kids"
But you confirm "I have not bred" - though it's not entirely clear how much of that was a choice made by you or by others on your behalf.

It's not for me or anyone to decide what other people should do for themselves and neither is it for anyone to give this kind of advice or cheer-lead when events outside their control or choice kill 1 in 29 infected people.

But then, that's something you claim to agree with "So you want to dictate everything for everyone and not just yourself?"

You can certainly make a choice for yourself, and I doubt anyone here would disagree with your choice, given the reasons you've made known. I certainly agree you shouldn't breed.
When the choice isn't your own, I agree with you again, it shouldn't be imposed on you against your will. Nor by you on anyone else.

It's nice to agree.
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Message 101961 - Posted: 30 May 2021, 15:28:16 UTC - in response to Message 101960.  

The policy began as removing "life unworthy of life", so it began with mental & physical disability and made the very short jump to removing "racial impurity", where Jews, Romany, Slavs etc were considered "racially inferior" as an addition to mental or physical disability. Far from it not being the same, it was an extension of the exact same thinking.
As I already stated, there's nothing wrong with preventing more disabled people being born, and it happens already, you can get tested for certain genes and decide not to have children. I suppose you'd say those parents are murdering someone who doesn't exist yet.

You "suppose" a lot for someone who can't distinguish between a policy imposed from above and any decision people make for themselves.

In your own words:
You state you're "not the best looking fittest healthiest specimen around"
You believe "If you're an ugly or unhealthy person, not breeding is a good idea. Why put your offspring through being like you?"
I'm not clear if it's because "If you had a nasty disease that you knew would be passed on, you would refrain from having kids"
But you confirm "I have not bred" - though it's not entirely clear how much of that was a choice made by you or by others on your behalf.

It's not for me or anyone to decide what other people should do for themselves and neither is it for anyone to give this kind of advice or cheer-lead when events outside their control or choice kill 1 in 29 infected people.

But then, that's something you claim to agree with "So you want to dictate everything for everyone and not just yourself?"

You can certainly make a choice for yourself, and I doubt anyone here would disagree with your choice, given the reasons you've made known. I certainly agree you shouldn't breed.
When the choice isn't your own, I agree with you again, it shouldn't be imposed on you against your will. Nor by you on anyone else.

It's nice to agree.
We already have things imposed on us, for example wearing a seatbelt (which only protects you) to save the NHS money. Why would you want to allow people to be born that are going to cost the NHS a lot of money over their lives? Why would you not want the population as a whole to become healthier with each generation? It is your duty in society to improve that society.
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Message 101975 - Posted: 31 May 2021, 16:30:44 UTC

Sorry to interrupt your rants but we are quite a lot having trouble with the new python project work units.

Thread is here : https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=14448
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Message 101990 - Posted: 1 Jun 2021, 16:30:47 UTC - in response to Message 101923.  
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I'm also having problems with Rosetta.

My computer just marked 45 tasks as Errors While Computing, all within a few seconds of starting.

Here is an example, one of the 45:
1389100052 1241048633 3551508 1 Jun 2021, 16:01:45 UTC 1 Jun 2021, 16:02:57 UTC Error while computing 3.54 0.00 --- Rosetta v4.20
windows_x86_64

Here's the computer configuration:
7.16.11 AuthenticAMD
AMD A6-6400K APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics [Family 21 Model 19 Stepping 1]
(2 processors) AMD AMD Radeon HD 7400/7500/8300/8400 series (Scrapper) (768MB) driver: 1.4.1848 OpenCL: 1.2 Microsoft Windows 7
Home Premium x64 Edition, (06.01.7600.00)

Any ideas?

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Message 101991 - Posted: 1 Jun 2021, 16:40:55 UTC - in response to Message 101947.  
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In fact I've never even said a particular race should be stopped from breeding, I said unhealthy ones.

So, we have to stop breeding you.
I have not bred for two reasons. One, I admit I'm not the best looking fittest healthiest specimen around, so I let the better quality people breed. Two, the world is way too full, we should all be cutting down on breeding. If everyone used a bit of common sense and learned to abstain from having kids every 5 minutes we could have a world that wasn't overcrowded and was full of fit healthy gorgeous people. At least the UK government has stopped giving child benefits to 3rd and subsequent children.


There's a vast difference between you personally deciding not to breed for your own reasons and the government imposing decisions about who should not breed for its own reasons. At some point, it becomes a political decision.

It's not such a big jump from deciding who is not fit to breed, to mental defectives, then to certain physical defects, then to Jews, Gypsies and dissidents, to nine million people.

A slippery slope there for sure.

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Message 101992 - Posted: 1 Jun 2021, 16:59:40 UTC - in response to Message 101991.  

In fact I've never even said a particular race should be stopped from breeding, I said unhealthy ones.

So, we have to stop breeding you.
I have not bred for two reasons. One, I admit I'm not the best looking fittest healthiest specimen around, so I let the better quality people breed. Two, the world is way too full, we should all be cutting down on breeding. If everyone used a bit of common sense and learned to abstain from having kids every 5 minutes we could have a world that wasn't overcrowded and was full of fit healthy gorgeous people. At least the UK government has stopped giving child benefits to 3rd and subsequent children.


There's a vast difference between you personally deciding not to breed for your own reasons and the government imposing decisions about who should not breed for its own reasons. At some point, it becomes a political decision.

It's not such a big jump from deciding who is not fit to breed, to mental defectives, then to certain physical defects, then to Jews, Gypsies and dissidents, to nine million people.

A slippery slope there for sure.

S.Gaber
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