Hi all, new to Rosetta. I have been running Seti@Home since last fall with no issues. I added Rosetta@ home on two PC's. Upon re-boot Rosetta is removed from the list projects list. I have to add new task, select Rosetta and re-enter password info. Seti does not do this. What am I missing ?? I am using a different password from Seti if that makes a difference.

Not sure what the issue is. I just used the BOINC Manager, Tools, Add project, select Rosetta@home, New user, different password to my other project and everything went along OK from there.
I didn't reboot the system till a few days after joining up, and the project was still there when it did reboot.

Hi Grant, thanks for the reply. Nice to see you here, you sure were a lot of help on the Seti forum. Yeah I touched base with you regarding this before on Seti. I followed your advise and let things run on both PC's for several days and still have to login every re-boot, tried re-boot yesterday. Seti stays logged in, no Rosetta in the project list. I did the exact install process to the letter of Rosetta that you mentioned.

???? Frustrating

Thanks Bill S.

Hi there,

I've a host which is pretty much getting near constant computation errors on any Rosetta tasks thrown at it, mostly near the end of the runtime which is rather frustrating.
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=1664634

Plenty of free RAM so don't think that is the issue. BOINC client on this host is also set to use only 3 CPU cores.
Has anyone got any ideas what else I could look at to discover the reason for these errors? I did try looking in the BOINC data folder but there were no error log or output files by the time I checked.

I’m getting the very same thing. Only on one machine though. Plenty of free ram too - at least 10gb free when this happens. All on Rosetta 4.12. Tried resetting project and various other things. No luck...

Hi, my old P4/WinXP machine started to receive some WUs about COVID19 (Rosetta 4.12) but all of them could not execute. The message said 'Computation Error'. Then another WU was downloaded and the same thing happened again. Is this because of Windows XP?

turn off HT (hyper-threading) and run again, this give you 1 task and will use less memory

Has anyone got any ideas what else I could look at to discover the reason for these errors?

The error is "STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION". That could mean that you anti-virus is blocking it.
Try adding the "C:ProgramDataBOINC" folder as an exception to your AV. That might fix it.
If not, I would disable the AV temporarily, or use another one. I think that Microsoft Defender would probably work OK on Win10.

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Looks like you have many access violations. I am not seeing such errors with other people's problem reports. Have you run memtest?

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Where do we post initialization and login questions, please?

I've got one box out there that has gotten quite a few fails on it as well and hasn't had really much luck pulling in work.
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3995249

Thanks!

Valid (24) · Invalid (0) · Error (401) from Opteron server.

Thats sad. Compared to xeon server: Valid (186) · Invalid (0) · Error (6)

Where do we post initialization and login questions, please?

Over in the questions and answers boards, there is one for getting started. A new thread on Number Crunching board would be fine too.

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Hi , I have installed BOINC on my PC and added the Rosseta@Home project but it seems to be no task at all. All I get is no work available to process.

am I missing something?

All I get is no work available to process.

You sometime get that when you first attach. Wait a few hours.

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Is there any work for Android? Out of curiosity, I installed BOINC on my Galaxy S9 and connected to Rosetta, but I get the message "Rosetta for portable devices needs 1907,35 MB RAM but only 1805,47 MB is available for use". As far as I know, the Galaxy S9 has 4 GB of RAM and was/still is quite a flagship smartphone (currently rank 44 at Antutu), so what is the problem here? I just think that I have a small power brick laying around collecting dust, while it could be used for something good.

Is there any work for Android? Out of curiosity, I installed BOINC on my Galaxy S9 and connected to Rosetta, but I get the message "Rosetta for portable devices needs 1907,35 MB RAM but only 1805,47 MB is available for use". As far as I know, the Galaxy S9 has 4 GB of RAM and was/still is quite a flagship smartphone (currently rank 44 at Antutu), so what is the problem here? I just think that I have a small power brick laying around collecting dust, while it could be used for something good.

There are currently 13121 such tasks available, but that number has recently been changing drastically during each day.

I suspect that main thing you need to do is to tell BOINC that it has permission to use a higher fraction of the 4 GB of the memory - BOINC usually tries to leave much of the memory free for other programs.

Is there any work for Android? Out of curiosity, I installed BOINC on my Galaxy S9 and connected to Rosetta, but I get the message "Rosetta for portable devices needs 1907,35 MB RAM but only 1805,47 MB is available for use". As far as I know, the Galaxy S9 has 4 GB of RAM and was/still is quite a flagship smartphone (currently rank 44 at Antutu), so what is the problem here? I just think that I have a small power brick laying around collecting dust, while it could be used for something good.

There are currently 13121 such tasks available, but that number has recently been changing drastically during each day.

I suspect that main thing you need to do is to tell BOINC that it has permission to use a higher fraction of the 4 GB of the memory - BOINC usually tries to leave much of the memory free for other programs.

Well, that was a quick answer! I feel very dumb now, because it was just as easy as going to the settings in BOINC and changing exactly that option. I somehow misread it the first time as "leave xx % of the memory free" instead of the "can use xx % of the memory", so I set it to the lowest amount instead of the highest.

As soon as I changed that, it started to download WUs and I am now contributing. Still got the mesasge that I don't have anough RAM though, but I think I can ignore that now.

Is there any work for Android? Out of curiosity, I installed BOINC on my Galaxy S9 and connected to Rosetta, but I get the message "Rosetta for portable devices needs 1907,35 MB RAM but only 1805,47 MB is available for use". As far as I know, the Galaxy S9 has 4 GB of RAM and was/still is quite a flagship smartphone (currently rank 44 at Antutu), so what is the problem here? I just think that I have a small power brick laying around collecting dust, while it could be used for something good.

There are currently 13121 such tasks available, but that number has recently been changing drastically during each day.

I suspect that main thing you need to do is to tell BOINC that it has permission to use a higher fraction of the 4 GB of the memory - BOINC usually tries to leave much of the memory free for other programs.

Well, that was a quick answer! I feel very dumb now, because it was just as easy as going to the settings in BOINC and changing exactly that option. I somehow misread it the first time as "leave xx % of the memory free" instead of the "can use xx % of the memory", so I set it to the lowest amount instead of the highest.

As soon as I changed that, it started to download WUs and I am now contributing. Still got the mesasge that I don't have anough RAM though, but I think I can ignore that now.

That looks likely to SOMETIMES be enough. It now gets past the first test for insufficient memory, and is therefore able to do enough to see if what the task is doing will eventually reach the limit or not.

Is there any work for Android? Out of curiosity, I installed BOINC on my Galaxy S9 and connected to Rosetta, but I get the message "Rosetta for portable devices needs 1907,35 MB RAM but only 1805,47 MB is available for use". As far as I know, the Galaxy S9 has 4 GB of RAM and was/still is quite a flagship smartphone (currently rank 44 at Antutu), so what is the problem here? I just think that I have a small power brick laying around collecting dust, while it could be used for something good.

There are currently 13121 such tasks available, but that number has recently been changing drastically during each day.

I suspect that main thing you need to do is to tell BOINC that it has permission to use a higher fraction of the 4 GB of the memory - BOINC usually tries to leave much of the memory free for other programs.

Well, that was a quick answer! I feel very dumb now, because it was just as easy as going to the settings in BOINC and changing exactly that option. I somehow misread it the first time as "leave xx % of the memory free" instead of the "can use xx % of the memory", so I set it to the lowest amount instead of the highest.

As soon as I changed that, it started to download WUs and I am now contributing. Still got the mesasge that I don't have anough RAM though, but I think I can ignore that now.

That looks likely to SOMETIMES be enough. It now gets past the first test for insufficient memory, and is therefore able to do enough to see if what the task is doing will eventually reach the limit or not.

Maybe I celebrated too early, because now I have to get BOINC to keep working. As soon as I leave the App or turn the screen off, BOINC gets killed. Even if I just leave the tasks-tab, they all stop completely. I already disabled all of Samsung's battery saving options and set it to not being kicked out of the RAM, but it still does somehow.
Either the Samsung has a quite aggressive battery management system or the GAlaxy S9 is an old shabby phone already.

slightly OT: Windows10 seems to LAG when BOINC runs on ALL cores. why?
My setup:
Processor I7 9700k @ 4,5 GHz, no graphics card.
16 GB RAM
The processor has 8 phys. cores
I let the boinc client run on 7 cores, currently 5 run with rosetta 4.12, the other 2 cores run with rosetta mini 3.78

So far so good - as i let my machine run 24/7, i would like to use ALL EIGHT CORES for rosetta.
But when i set the boinc client to 100%, at first i see an 8th process start.

Fine, but after a while Windows10 does strange things.

E.g. when i want to copy a larger file on my HDD, Windows10 seems to wait and wait and wait and not perform the task.
Every now and then Windows10 refuses to do something and just tends to wait.
I don't know WHY this habbens because the rosetta tasks should be in idle low priority anyway.


As soon as i revert to 7 core usage (i put 88% into the boinc client usage), everything returns to normal.



Does anyone else know of this behaviour and how to fix it and let boinc use all processor cores?

greetings from Vienna

Roland Schweiger

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That looks likely to SOMETIMES be enough. It now gets past the first test for insufficient memory, and is therefore able to do enough to see if what the task is doing will eventually reach the limit or not.

Maybe I celebrated too early, because now I have to get BOINC to keep working. As soon as I leave the App or turn the screen off, BOINC gets killed. Even if I just leave the tasks-tab, they all stop completely. I already disabled all of Samsung's battery saving options and set it to not being kicked out of the RAM, but it still does somehow.
Either the Samsung has a quite aggressive battery management system or the GAlaxy S9 is an old shabby phone already.

Are you leaving it connected to the battery charger whenever BOINC is running? You may need to do so. On mobile phones, BOINC is usually set to require that to keep running.

Looks like you have many access violations. I am not seeing such errors with other people's problem reports. Have you run memtest?

Thanks - have tried both Memtest86 and Windows built in memtest on that host, both came back clean after several passes.
Not sure as to the reason for the errors, for the moment I've stopped this host from taking Rosetta tasks and have put it on WCG til I have a chance to look further.

Seems to be only Rosetta that's affected as other applications (GPUGrid and WCG's MCM) run OK.