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Jim1348 Send message Joined: 19 Jan 06 Posts: 881 Credit: 52,257,545 RAC: 0 |
System has 6 Gb configured (running inside VM). That means you have only 3 GB available. If you have "leave applications in memory" enabled, any suspended task will be taking up memory too. It is a memory problem. |
BetelgeuseFive Send message Joined: 10 Aug 10 Posts: 4 Credit: 1,443,980 RAC: 382 |
System has 6 Gb configured (running inside VM). There were no other (suspended) tasks active and it didn't want to start even a single new v4.12 task while the system had been running v4.08 tasks for several days without any problems. I changed memory settings so it can always use 90% and enabled the v4.12 tasks again so I will find out if it helps. Did anything change in v4.12 that will cause tasks to not even start ? Thanks for your feedback, it is appreciated. Tom |
vowelmarauder Send message Joined: 22 Mar 20 Posts: 2 Credit: 2,114,237 RAC: 0 |
I just noticed that my tasks are taking almost twice as long as the ETA says. The time is either standing still with 1-2 seconds either way or counting *up*... I don't think I've tinkered with any settings and boinc is using all its cores fully. Is this normal? What's going on? Sure enough all the new tasks are running like this as well (~16 hours) and I saw others report the same? they're all "conducting_fiber_XXXX_fold_and_dock_XXX" As suggested above, is this a different batch and nothing to worry about? edit: thank you for the explanation 🙏🏻 I will reply only here so others can see your post https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=6893&postid=93107#93107 |
JoshuaScholar Send message Joined: 26 Mar 20 Posts: 18 Credit: 232,183 RAC: 0 |
Bitdefender thinks that rosetta_4.12_windows_intelx86.exe "exhibits ransomeware behavior" I thinks that it encrypted boinc_checkpoint_count.txt boinc_init_count.txt chk_S_00000023_ClassicAbinito_stage4_kk_1.rng.state.gz [a bunch similar like it] I'm guessing that rng means random number generator and that it reinitialized a bunch of random number files, the program detected the maximum entropy and assumed that the files are encrypted. I can make that program an exception, but I don't know what's ruined because the damn program restored some of the files to their previous state. |
Mod.Sense Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Aug 06 Posts: 4018 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
Default workunit preferred runtime increases to 16 hours. Rosetta Moderator: Mod.Sense |
Admin Project administrator Send message Joined: 1 Jul 05 Posts: 5144 Credit: 0 RAC: 0 |
Sorry, we changed that back to 8 hours |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1725 Credit: 18,382,444 RAC: 19,446 |
Hi especially @Grant (SSSF) Could be the Tasks in question? On my system all Tasks are running to the Target time (other than the odd one that bails out early), and apart from a glitch with some Tasks a few days back that paid out bugger all Credit (and the few early exits), Credit has generally been inline with Runtime. Grant Darwin NT |
JoshuaScholar Send message Joined: 26 Mar 20 Posts: 18 Credit: 232,183 RAC: 0 |
What do I do to clean my system since the damn antivirus program "restored" some of rosetta's files to a previous state, assuming that Rosetta 4.12 is a ransomware program? I tried aborting the WU's currently being calculated but one finished. |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 2 Apr 20 Posts: 21 Credit: 11,028 RAC: 0 |
. . OK, I am totally new to this project. I started cautiously giving it one core of my i5-6400 with the other 3 cores idle as backup and support for E@H on the GPU. One task ran and was looking good, pretty much on target (8 hours) after 6 hours runtime with CPU utilisation remaining under 50% on all 4 cores. To try and improve CPU usage I increased it to 2 cores but it remained at one task running. I then increased commitment to 3 cores and it started a 2nd task, but soon crashed BOINC requiring me to go to task manager to kill all Rosetta functions and E@H before I could get BOINC to launch again. I reduced CPU commitment back to 1 core and left it running, but upon returning to this machine about 8 hours later it had crashed the boinc-client several times and despite trying to kill off still active app components I could not get BOINC to restart, so I had to reboot the machine. I suspended the idle Rosetta tasks but now the one running task has gone to 'waiting to run". This machine has 8GB RAM. If I cannot get Rosetta to play nice with E@H it may have to go. . . I increased CPU commitment back to 2 cores and the stalled task has resumed, but I am now waiting for the other shoe to drop. Will it crash BOINC yet again? Stephen ? ? |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1725 Credit: 18,382,444 RAC: 19,446 |
. . I increased CPU commitment back to 2 cores and the stalled task has resumed, but I am now waiting for the other shoe to drop. Will it crash BOINC yet again?Settings that are working for me (keep in mind 6c/12t), 32GB of RAM. Other Store at least 1 days of work Store up to an additional 0.02 days of work Disk Use no more than 12 GB Leave at least 2 GB free Use no more than 40% of total Memory When computer is in use, use at most 95 % When computer is not in use, use at most 95 % Leave non-GPU tasks in memory while suspended (not selected) Page/swap file: use at most 75 % Running more than one project i'd suggest "Store at least x days of work" to be 0.5 or less. Grant Darwin NT |
MarkJ Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 72 Credit: 25,238,680 RAC: 0 |
Bitdefender thinks that rosetta_4.12_windows_intelx86.exe "exhibits ransomware behavior" Set Rosetta to No New Tasks in BOINC. Make the BOINC folders and program an exception in Bitdefender. On the projects tab in BOINC reset the project and then set it to Allow New Tasks. What that will do is clean out the project folder and download the apps again. It will get rid of any running task (if you have any) . BOINC blog |
RT Send message Joined: 14 Mar 20 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,155,031 RAC: 0 |
For some reason since v4.12 was released, one of my machines has failed computation on every Rosetta task, my other machines seem to be fine at the moment but the following host: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3849302 seems to fail every task it gets after 2-3 seconds of computation. |
JoshuaScholar Send message Joined: 26 Mar 20 Posts: 18 Credit: 232,183 RAC: 0 |
Sadly exceptions for ransomware are by program, not by folder. It seems my choices are: 1) turn off ransomware protection altogether or 2) except Rosetta_4.12_windows_intelx86.exe and know that I'm going to go through the same sh_tshow next time you update the client. |
JoshuaScholar Send message Joined: 26 Mar 20 Posts: 18 Credit: 232,183 RAC: 0 |
Even though I have 64 bit windows, it was using the 32 bit version of 4.12. when the virus program went nuts on it. *Since I had to reset everything, I can see that it's stuck while trying to load the 64 bit version. Progress is stuck at 99.63% 85.77/86.09 MB I think that happened last time too. Never mind, it finished downloading and the task list on the website shows that the files it started after that point are running in 64 bits. Why I was having problems with a 32 bit version before, I don't know. *correction, after retry it started working. |
robertmiles Send message Joined: 16 Jun 08 Posts: 1234 Credit: 14,338,560 RAC: 2,014 |
For some reason since v4.12 was released, one of my machines has failed computation on every Rosetta task, my other machines seem to be fine at the moment but the following host: That host has less memory per processor than the others, so it looks worth trying to have BOINC set a lower limit on the number of tasks it can run at once. The 4.12 application seems seems to use more memory than earlier versions. Also, it appears to be the only one on your list with two GPUs, so it might be worthwhile to try running Rosetta tasks while doing as little as possible on the GPUs. |
RT Send message Joined: 14 Mar 20 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,155,031 RAC: 0 |
Cheers, will try tweaking the config, for now both GPU's are idle on that machine at the moment so shouldn't factor into this. Seeing a quite a few other Mac users reporting the same issues over at https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=12554&postid=93165 |
RT Send message Joined: 14 Mar 20 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,155,031 RAC: 0 |
Tried adjusting the resource share as suggested, still having the same issues, got 2 machines now exhibiting this problem, both of them Macs. Windows PC which is the least powerful in terms of specs is happy to crunch the work units without any problems. It has less RAM than either of the Macs. |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2141 Credit: 41,525,460 RAC: 10,413 |
Oh, you're not going to like this... All problems now solved. I think my power supply failed overnight, so nothing running at all <sob> |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2141 Credit: 41,525,460 RAC: 10,413 |
Front page says 560k tasks queued Server status page says 15k ready to send Lower on server status page, all 15k are Android tasks. No Rosetta nor MiniRosetta available to download We're out for the moment |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2141 Credit: 41,525,460 RAC: 10,413 |
Front page says 560k tasks queued Oh, cancel that. Server status page just updated and tasks already coming down. Sorry |
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