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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1718 Credit: 18,346,859 RAC: 25,114 |
My original account 'danwat1234' seems to have been deleted serverside tonight.Unlikely. This may help. Forgot your account info? I have about 320 machines hungry for work. Please don't make me reset the project on all of them.There is presently no work available here. Grant Darwin NT |
kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 271 Credit: 507,897 RAC: 496 |
Page is still indexed but user no longer exists. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1718 Credit: 18,346,859 RAC: 25,114 |
Network issues can result in a new host being created- but i've never come across an account suddenly changing hands, let alone 2. Unfortunately i've not got the slightest idea of what can be done as there is absolutely zero interaction with the project personnel here. If you can find a way to contact any of them, then maybe something can be done, but i don't like your chances. Good luck. Grant Darwin NT |
kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 271 Credit: 507,897 RAC: 496 |
Maybe email ipdadmin@uw.edu and dabaker@uw.edu? Found emails here: https://www.bakerlab.org/contact/ |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1718 Credit: 18,346,859 RAC: 25,114 |
Did not change hands.It was yours, now it's not yours and it hasn't been deleted, so that makes it someone else's (even if that is nobody). Sounds like changing hands to me. Grant Darwin NT |
kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 271 Credit: 507,897 RAC: 496 |
When i open https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_user.php?userid=297965 it says "No such user 297965" It looks like deleted account for me. |
maeax New member Send message Joined: 7 Dec 24 Posts: 3 Credit: 830,504 RAC: 51,061 |
My Acount is active since days, get atm a lot of resends. |
maeax New member Send message Joined: 7 Dec 24 Posts: 3 Credit: 830,504 RAC: 51,061 |
The Scheduler beginning to work :-) |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1718 Credit: 18,346,859 RAC: 25,114 |
The Scheduler beginning to work :-)? It hadn't stopped. boinc-process looks as though it might be coming back to life though- some functions are showing as running again, although most are still dead. Grant Darwin NT |
rsNeutrino Send message Joined: 22 Mar 20 Posts: 13 Credit: 5,129,184 RAC: 9,346 |
Concerning the missing accounts, boincstats shows corresponding data: https://www.boincstats.com/stats/14/user/list/0/1000/0 The "last day" rank up numbers show all users at the 100th place rising 5 positions, corresponding to 5 users missing in the top 100, so 5% of user accounts went missing there. Similar scaling at the 1000th place, rising 65 positions corresponding to 65 users missing within the top 1000 = 6.5%. At the same time the credits of those accounts vanished from the total as well: https://www.boincstats.com/stats/14/project/detail/credit https://www.boincstats.com/stats/14/project/detail/lastDays Yesterday, the total credit balance of the project was 157,333,935,910. Today it's 151,216,469,526. So 6,117,466,384 credits (6.1 BILLION credits, 3.9% of total) vanished, as shown by the massive column going negative in the credits per day, today. |
kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 271 Credit: 507,897 RAC: 496 |
I wonder what happened to forum posts by missing accounts? |
rsNeutrino Send message Joined: 22 Mar 20 Posts: 13 Credit: 5,129,184 RAC: 9,346 |
This list sorted by rising credits per day, starting in the deep negative, should contain at least a subset of the missing accounts (~5050 at this time): https://www.boincstats.com/stats/-1/user/list/13/0/0 I suspect there was a massive purge, intentional or unintentional, and it's either not fully synchronized with externals sites, or masked by other projects adding more credits daily than have been lost in total by rosetta. With old google results I found something else interesting: The alphabetical user list, containing old pages. Example: - R - User Profiles - Names beginning with R: Page 1 of 8 Last updated 14 Dec 2024, 12:50:08 UTC https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_R_1.html User Profiles - Names beginning with R: Page 8 of 8 Last updated 14 Dec 2024, 12:50:08 UTC https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_R_8.html User Profiles - Names beginning with R: Page 9 of 56 Last updated 13 Dec 2024, 12:50:39 UTC https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_R_9.html User Profiles - Names beginning with R: Page 56 of 56 Last updated 13 Dec 2024, 12:50:39 UTC https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_R_56.html -> ~ 86% of all users starting with "R" missing And you can do that for every character: - A - User Profiles - Names beginning with A: Page 9 of 9 Last updated 14 Dec 2024, 12:50:08 UTC https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_A_9.html User Profiles - Names beginning with A: Page 10 of 68 Last updated 13 Dec 2024, 12:50:40 UTC https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_A_10.html -> ~ 87% of all users starting with "A" missing Edit: A more complete comparison of the magnitude of this purge - Profiles by country: Snapshot February 2024: http://web.archive.org/web/20240227133833/https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_country.html ∑ 10,317 Today: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/user_profile/profile_country.html ∑ 1,363 Edit 2: Deltas Profiles per Country (sum) 2024-02-26 10317 2024-12-14 1363 ∆: -8954 Users with credit 2024-12-13 1381403 2024-12-14 1373594 ∆: -7809 Users with recent credit 2024-12-13 13749 2024-12-14 13628 ∆: -121 |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1718 Credit: 18,346,859 RAC: 25,114 |
Last night there were 20 Anonymous user accounts in the top 100 Hosts list. Now there are 23. Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1718 Credit: 18,346,859 RAC: 25,114 |
At least the Validation backlog has almost cleared. And as for the missing accounts- On the main page Server Status section, Notice: Undefined variable: stats in /projects/boinc/rosetta/html/user/index.php on line 81 If a record isn't in the index, then for all intents and purposes, it doesn't exist. Since it's the User index, then those Users effectively don't exist (even though they are still in the database). Grant Darwin NT |
iF3lixDE2 New member Send message Joined: 14 Dec 24 Posts: 3 Credit: 3,266 RAC: 266 |
Although it's clear enough already that the majority of registered accounts were purged I just wanted to chime in as another person who was affected |
Bill F Send message Joined: 29 Jan 08 Posts: 48 Credit: 1,612,566 RAC: 1,661 |
Although it's clear enough already that the majority of registered accounts were purged I just wanted to chime in as another person who was affected Let's let the dust settle and find out what actually happened and what can be done. The Server Status page shows 1.3M users with credit so the majority of registered users have NOT been deleted. Bill F In October 1969 I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; There was no expiration date. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1718 Credit: 18,346,859 RAC: 25,114 |
If those affected could post their event log entry with the date & time & UTC offset of when the issue first came up in the "Account lost??" thread, it might actually help in sorting out the problem if someone is able to get the project's attention to that thread. Grant Darwin NT |
Bill Swisher Send message Joined: 10 Jun 13 Posts: 38 Credit: 34,858,912 RAC: 107,909 |
Does anybody know if the powers that be do listen in here? I suspect that it might be in their interest to know what's happening out here in the wilderness. For example...this is interesting to me and I'm not near at the moment... https://media.alaskapublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Aleutians-quakes-1536x892.jpg |
iF3lixDE2 New member Send message Joined: 14 Dec 24 Posts: 3 Credit: 3,266 RAC: 266 |
Yeah you're right; i only went by profiles not total users. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1718 Credit: 18,346,859 RAC: 25,114 |
Notice: Undefined variable: stats in /projects/boinc/rosetta/html/user/index.php on line 81Is no longer showing on the home page Server Status area. Still no sign of the missing accounts, but hopefully the issue has been fixed and in the next 24hrs the index should be re-built & then they should re-appear... *fingers crossed* Grant Darwin NT |
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