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Bill Swisher Send message Joined: 10 Jun 13 Posts: 37 Credit: 33,599,833 RAC: 43,670 |
"that crashed and burned" I recall them to have been more of a flash in the pan. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1695 Credit: 18,148,845 RAC: 24,356 |
Ralph appears to be fully functional now, so with a bit of luck we might get some new work there to test Rosetta 4.29 (and maybe even the Beta 6.06 application as well that crashed and burned everything that was sent out for it on it's fist try here).Looks like i posted too soon- Ralph is MIA again. Grant Darwin NT |
[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1997 Credit: 9,727,679 RAC: 10,217 |
Looks like i posted too soon- Ralph is MIA again. But server daemons on Rosetta has restarted... |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1695 Credit: 18,148,845 RAC: 24,356 |
3 days is better than 3 weeks.Looks like i posted too soon- Ralph is MIA again.But server daemons on Rosetta has restarted... Grant Darwin NT |
robertmiles Send message Joined: 16 Jun 08 Posts: 1233 Credit: 14,314,307 RAC: 3,130 |
3 days is better than 3 weeks.Looks like i posted too soon- Ralph is MIA again.But server daemons on Rosetta has restarted... BOTH are better than I saw on Predictor@Home a few years ago,. The two people who knew how to create workunits properly left that project about the same time. That left a few people who couldn't do much more than set up more tries on workunits that have failed on all previous tries. Some workunits reached 50 tries this way before the professor in charge of the project decided to shut the project down until they could start something more useful, but that didn't happen. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1695 Credit: 18,148,845 RAC: 24,356 |
And Ralph is now back again, again. Grant Darwin NT |
[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1997 Credit: 9,727,679 RAC: 10,217 |
This won't block Boinc from downloading beta work, and it has no effect all all on the number of cores each task will use.. It will only limit it from running more than X Rosetta tasks simultaneously. Are you sure? I used the xml file years ago and i remember it "reset" the project folder and started to download only the selected app. But, probably, I remember wrong. And, anyway, this is only attempts, until they decide to insert the possibility to choose in the user's profile... |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2129 Credit: 41,383,410 RAC: 14,393 |
Looks like i posted too soon- Ralph is MIA again. Having been away a couple of days before reading this, it reminded me to look at something that I suspected was missing. It used to be that tasks that crashed out after running for a reasonable time were given partial credits as a result of a cleanup job that ran once daily. A small but regular number of tasks have crashed among recent batches, so I've just checked and none of them are being given that partial credit any more. Not a good thing. |
hadron Send message Joined: 4 Sep 22 Posts: 68 Credit: 1,568,001 RAC: 868 |
This won't block Boinc from downloading beta work, and it has no effect all all on the number of cores each task will use.. It will only limit it from running more than X Rosetta tasks simultaneously. I am certain of this. There is no way in any file you can create or modify on your system that will determine whether or not you will be sent tasks for any particular app. That can only be done on the project website, and Rosetta does not give you any choice. |
Bryn Mawr Send message Joined: 26 Dec 18 Posts: 395 Credit: 12,224,824 RAC: 10,349 |
Agree, the best you can do is cut it down to running one at a time. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1695 Credit: 18,148,845 RAC: 24,356 |
I am certain of this. There is no way in any file you can create or modify on your system that will determine whether or not you will be sent tasks for any particular app.You can if the project supports anonymous platform. The app_info.xml file contains the information for the applications that your system has, so you will receive work only for those applications & no others. However, when using this method, you are then the one responsible for making any updates to the application/replacing the application with an updated one when the project comes out with a new version of the application you are using. And if they come out with another application that you want to use, once again it's up to you to set it up on your system. Grant Darwin NT |
hadron Send message Joined: 4 Sep 22 Posts: 68 Credit: 1,568,001 RAC: 868 |
I am certain of this. There is no way in any file you can create or modify on your system that will determine whether or not you will be sent tasks for any particular app.You can if the project supports anonymous platform. Respectfully disagree. Take LHC, for example. Suppose you are running ATLAS and CMS only, both are mentioned in your app_config.xml file for whatever reasons (number of CPUs per task, max number of tasks for that app, for example). You have never run THEORY tasks, and they are de-selected in your user preferences on LHC. Your client knows nothing about them. If you now decide you wish to start running THEORY tasks, you need only enable them in your preferences on LHC; no other action is necessary. The next time your client calls in requesting new tasks, you will get them -- guaranteed. |
kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 264 Credit: 507,897 RAC: 1,097 |
app_info.xml and app_config.xml are different things. With app_config you can't modify executable. With app_info i could use YAFU 2.11 instead of 1.34, and make it use CADO-NFS. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1695 Credit: 18,148,845 RAC: 24,356 |
Respectfully disagree. Take LHC, for example.Stop right there & read what you posted, and then read what i posted. As kotenok2000 pointed out, i was talking about using app_info.xml to make use of the Anonymous Platform function. app_config.xml is completely, totally and utterly different. Grant Darwin NT |
hadron Send message Joined: 4 Sep 22 Posts: 68 Credit: 1,568,001 RAC: 868 |
Respectfully disagree. Take LHC, for example.Stop right there & read what you posted, and then read what i posted. TIL.... this is the first time that I can recall anyone mentioning "anonymous platform". My immediate reaction is to ask just what is the absolute minimum required to prevent Boinc from getting Rosetta beta tasks. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1695 Credit: 18,148,845 RAC: 24,356 |
My immediate reaction is to ask just what is the absolute minimum required to prevent Boinc from getting Rosetta beta tasks.Either the project adds the option in the users account, or they support the anonymous platform function, or BOINC make changes to the supported values for the max_concurrent option in app_config.xml to make it possible to limit the number to less than one (ie- 0), Any one of those 3 would make it possible. Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1695 Credit: 18,148,845 RAC: 24,356 |
Oh, what a surprise. boinc-process is down again, so there's a Validation backlog once again that continues to grow. Grant Darwin NT |
hadron Send message Joined: 4 Sep 22 Posts: 68 Credit: 1,568,001 RAC: 868 |
My immediate reaction is to ask just what is the absolute minimum required to prevent Boinc from getting Rosetta beta tasks.Either the project adds the option in the users account, or they support the anonymous platform function, or BOINC make changes to the supported values for the max_concurrent option in app_config.xml to make it possible to limit the number to less than one (ie- 0), I was actually asking if there was some way to do it with the way things are now. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1695 Credit: 18,148,845 RAC: 24,356 |
Nope.My immediate reaction is to ask just what is the absolute minimum required to prevent Boinc from getting Rosetta beta tasks.Either the project adds the option in the users account, or they support the anonymous platform function, or BOINC make changes to the supported values for the max_concurrent option in app_config.xml to make it possible to limit the number to less than one (ie- 0), Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1695 Credit: 18,148,845 RAC: 24,356 |
Oh, what a surprise.Well, boinc-process is alive again, but Ralph has died completely, again... Grant Darwin NT |
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