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Message 107947 - Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 0:17:50 UTC

There isn't enough work for people who want it,
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Message 107948 - Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 0:56:08 UTC

WCG have upgraded their systems, there's now unlimited CPU work for cancer research.
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Message 107949 - Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 0:57:10 UTC - in response to Message 107947.  

There isn't enough work for people who want it,

Yup , but now >> Download server boinc-files.bakerlab.org . Running
so , that`s a good restart :-)
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Message 107950 - Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 1:24:49 UTC - in response to Message 107949.  

Yup , but now >> Download server boinc-files.bakerlab.org . Running
so , that`s a good restart :-)
Yes, we can now be 100% sure there's nothing to do....
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Message 107951 - Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 1:45:36 UTC - in response to Message 107949.  

now >> Download server boinc-files.bakerlab.org . Running
so , that`s a good restart :-)


Great, but there is no work to do. I will now look at the Project status page daily to see if there is any work for my machine. If so, I will re-enable getting new tasks and see what happens.
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Message 107952 - Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 1:49:14 UTC - in response to Message 107951.  

Great, but there is no work to do. I will now look at the Project status page daily to see if there is any work for my machine. If so, I will re-enable getting new tasks and see what happens.
Why not just leave it on all the time like I do? Go do another project and leave Rosetta getting work too. When they have some, Boinc will get it.
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Message 107953 - Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 3:36:21 UTC - in response to Message 107952.  

Great, but there is no work to do. I will now look at the Project status page daily to see if there is any work for my machine. If so, I will re-enable getting new tasks and see what happens.

Why not just leave it on all the time like I do? Go do another project and leave Rosetta getting work too. When they have some, Boinc will get it.


... because it has been getting "fake downloads" that set up empty files where filled in ones should be. And it fills up my "Transfers" tab with all that stuff. I have to "Abort Transfer" on each of them and do a "Reset Project" every [censored] time it feels like pestering me.
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Message 107954 - Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 4:29:22 UTC - in response to Message 107953.  

Mine is n all the time, running other projects.

Finally got the first Rosetta task in weeks.

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Message 107955 - Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 4:31:29 UTC - in response to Message 107953.  

... because it has been getting "fake downloads" that set up empty files where filled in ones should be. And it fills up my "Transfers" tab with all that stuff. I have to "Abort Transfer" on each of them and do a "Reset Project" every [censored] time it feels like pestering me.
I've never seen, or heard anyone else mention, these fake downloads. Something odd going on there.
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Message 107956 - Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 7:13:03 UTC - in response to Message 107955.  

I've never seen, or heard anyone else mention, these fake downloads. Something odd going on there.


There certainly has been something odd going on here. Look at these earlier posts on this board.

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=6893&postid=107905

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=6893&postid=107918
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Message 107957 - Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 7:43:26 UTC

Is anyone else getting fake downloads?
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Message 107958 - Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 21:14:47 UTC - in response to Message 107957.  
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Is anyone else getting fake downloads?

Yes , I had lots of them when rosetta had work to do and the download server was `not running`
and when I did get some to download ok they would not upload when crunched and timed out as `no response`
And now the download server is `running` there is no work to download .
funny old world . . .

Two threads in number crunching forum :-
Problen downloading work tasks.
and
Can't upload finished work units
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Message 107976 - Posted: 18 Jan 2023, 17:01:23 UTC
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Hello, for almost a month now, the downloads status is "Download: Retry in hh:mm:ss (project backoff: hh:mm:ss)"

Nothing changed from a month ago, reinstalled and the issue stays the same. Platform is Windows 10.

BOINC Manager
Version: 7.16.11 (x64)
wxWidget Version: 3.0.1

Any advice?

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Message 107977 - Posted: 18 Jan 2023, 17:49:19 UTC - in response to Message 107976.  

Hello, for almost a month now, the downloads status is "Download: Retry in hh:mm:ss (project backoff: hh:mm:ss)"
Nothing changed from a month ago, reinstalled and the issue stays the same. Platform is Windows 10.
BOINC Manager
Version: 7.16.11 (x64)
wxWidget Version: 3.0.1
Any advice?
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Same as thousands of other Rosetta crunchers = were are stuffed until the admin fix the problem .
Like - "Users in last 24 hours = 35" That's the total that are getting any work at the moment , otherwise known as something big is broken and it ain`t fixed , yet .
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Message 107979 - Posted: 18 Jan 2023, 19:38:18 UTC
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Looks ok to me, they have very little work, it's been taken, and it's being returned. From the home page:

Total queued jobs: 0
In progress: 4,026
Successes last 24h: 356

And the odd ones I've been getting download, process, then upload just fine.

This is on 8 different Windows 11 machines ranging from 4 core to 24 core. AMD and Intel.
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Message 107980 - Posted: 19 Jan 2023, 1:29:50 UTC
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Yes , very little work to do ,
Just had a look through `top hosts` to see who gets work or not and it seem to be completely random .
One of mine cant even reattach to the project.
and another is unable to download the database and applications after reattaching .
Both intel win7 .
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Message 107981 - Posted: 19 Jan 2023, 8:48:41 UTC - in response to Message 107980.  

Yes , very little work to do ,
Just had a look through `top hosts` to see who gets work or not and it seem to be completely random .
One of mine cant even reattach to the project.
and another is unable to download the database and applications after reattaching .
Both intel win7 .


I looked at both my machines. Neither has any work.

My main computer is running Red Hat Enterprise Linux release 8.7 (Ootpa). using an
Intel(R) Xeon(R) W-2245 CPU @ 3.90GHz [Family 6 Model 85 Stepping 7] with 64 GBytes of RAM.
On this one, I did a reset project because I could not see anything wrong with it, but it was full of junk. I did that only because it would not download anything even when the web site said there was work. It then tried to download the databae and applications (4 very large files), but has been unable to do it. It tries from time-to-time, but cannot do it. It is having no trouble with ClimatePrediction, World Community Grid, Einstein, MilkyWay, and Universe. It complains like this:

Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:55 PM EST | Rosetta@home | Started download of rosetta_graphics_4.20_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:55 PM EST | Rosetta@home | Started download of database_357d5d93529_n_methyl.zip
Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:57 PM EST |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:57 PM EST | Rosetta@home | Temporarily failed download of rosetta_graphics_4.20_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu: transient HTTP error
Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:57 PM EST | Rosetta@home | Backing off 04:19:26 on download of rosetta_graphics_4.20_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:57 PM EST | Rosetta@home | Temporarily failed download of database_357d5d93529_n_methyl.zip: transient HTTP error
Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:57 PM EST | Rosetta@home | Backing off 04:22:30 on download of database_357d5d93529_n_methyl.zip
Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:59 PM EST |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.


The other computer is a pipsqueak running Windows 10. It does not get any work from Rosetta either.
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11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz [Family 6 Model 140 Stepping 1]
Microsoft Windows 10
Core x64 Edition, (10.00.19045.00)
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Message 107983 - Posted: 19 Jan 2023, 10:28:00 UTC

I had to discontinue Rosetta@home because i could no longer get any work units on my computers have been coming back every 3 or 4 months but have the same problem
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Message 107985 - Posted: 19 Jan 2023, 10:53:33 UTC - in response to Message 107981.  
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My main computer is running Red Hat Enterprise Linux release 8.7 (Ootpa). using an
Intel(R) Xeon(R) W-2245 CPU @ 3.90GHz [Family 6 Model 85 Stepping 7] with 64 GBytes of RAM.
On this one, I did a reset project because I could not see anything wrong with it, but it was full of junk. I did that only because it would not download anything even when the web site said there was work. It then tried to download the databae and applications (4 very large files), but has been unable to do it. It tries from time-to-time, but cannot do it. It is having no trouble with ClimatePrediction, World Community Grid, Einstein, MilkyWay, and Universe. It complains like this:

Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:55 PM EST | Rosetta@home | Started download of rosetta_graphics_4.20_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:55 PM EST | Rosetta@home | Started download of database_357d5d93529_n_methyl.zip
Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:57 PM EST |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:57 PM EST | Rosetta@home | Temporarily failed download of rosetta_graphics_4.20_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu: transient HTTP error
Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:57 PM EST | Rosetta@home | Backing off 04:19:26 on download of rosetta_graphics_4.20_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:57 PM EST | Rosetta@home | Temporarily failed download of database_357d5d93529_n_methyl.zip: transient HTTP error
Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:57 PM EST | Rosetta@home | Backing off 04:22:30 on download of database_357d5d93529_n_methyl.zip
Wed 18 Jan 2023 08:03:59 PM EST |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
I have three running right now on my main Windows 11 24 core Ryzen, it got them 2.5 hours ago: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=6181959.

Resetting project on my other (almost identical) Windows 11 24 core Ryzen to see if it can download the main files.... https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6219929

1422	Rosetta@home	Thu, 19/1/2023 10:33:58 AM	Resetting project	
1423	Rosetta@home	Thu, 19/1/2023 10:35:26 AM	update requested by user	
1424	Rosetta@home	Thu, 19/1/2023 10:35:33 AM	Master file download succeeded	
1425	Rosetta@home	Thu, 19/1/2023 10:35:38 AM	Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.	
1426	Rosetta@home	Thu, 19/1/2023 10:35:38 AM	Not requesting tasks: don't need (CPU: not highest priority project; AMD/ATI GPU: )	
1427	Rosetta@home	Thu, 19/1/2023 10:35:58 AM	Scheduler request completed	
1428	Rosetta@home	Thu, 19/1/2023 10:35:58 AM	Project requested delay of 31 seconds	
1436	Rosetta@home	Thu, 19/1/2023 10:36:46 AM	update requested by user	
1437	Rosetta@home	Thu, 19/1/2023 10:36:50 AM	Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.	
1438	Rosetta@home	Thu, 19/1/2023 10:36:50 AM	Requesting new tasks for CPU	
1439	Rosetta@home	Thu, 19/1/2023 10:36:52 AM	Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks	
1440	Rosetta@home	Thu, 19/1/2023 10:36:52 AM	No tasks sent	
1441	Rosetta@home	Thu, 19/1/2023 10:36:52 AM	Project requested delay of 31 seconds

It did not attempt to download the main file as I'd hoped, to see if I could recreate your problem. Maybe it only does that if there are tasks available. Until such time, I won't know. The tasks I'm running may be using the data files downloaded yonks ago. Not sure how often they update them.

I have an idea. Get hold of those two files from another machine. Here's the methyl database: (at half a GB, it will take a while to upload, see LHC below, I'll put the link here shortly). But as I only run Windows (on genuine licenses ROFL) I don't have the linux graphics file, only the windows equivalent. Somebody else in here may be able to provide it.

I also use Squid on the main computer - this means all my 8 computers download the file once between them, then it's cached. I installed it to reduce the massive load on the LHC servers. I'm maxing out my 7Mbit uplink 24/7, and was getting a similar amount downloading (and the two were getting in the way of each other). At least now my LHC downloads are virtually nil. LHC programs are very stupid, every individual virtualbox task accesses LHC internally and downloads common files, so every single core on a 24 core computer is downloading the same thing 24 times for every task, then another 24 times when the next batch starts!
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Message 107986 - Posted: 19 Jan 2023, 12:35:18 UTC

Stupid useless forum doesn't let me edit an old post.

Here's the file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/87mymss4dpmh9ru/database_357d5d93529_n_methyl.zip?dl=0
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