Any idea why completed work units are not being validated?

Any idea why completed work units are not being validated?

Sometimes it's because they are waiting for enough other copies to complete the quorum,

Sometimes it's because the validator program isn't running.

Any idea why completed work units are not being validated?

Sometimes it's because they are waiting for enough other copies to complete the quorum,

Sometimes it's because the validator program isn't running.

There are currently a very large number waiting for validation (a third of a million). Looking at my waiting ones, and my recently validated ones, they have "minimum quorum 1" which suggests they're self checking, or the server does so, so we're waiting on the server, not any other user. Something must have gone wrong at their end.

[quote]... SSDs suck, I use NVME.

You might benefit from a good google search on NVMe. It's not what you seem to think it is.

I know exactly what they are and have several, they're much faster. An SSD over SATA is far too slow, because of the SATA.

Are you from the Android forum?

Well, clearly you do not know, or you would not be suggesting that NVMe is some kind of storage device. It is not. NVMe is a host controller interface specification, the same as SATA. Thus, one might well imagine that some day, we might also see HDDs with a NVMe interface, just as we now have SSDs with a NVMe interface.

[quote]... SSDs suck, I use NVME.

You might benefit from a good google search on NVMe. It's not what you seem to think it is.

I know exactly what they are and have several, they're much faster. An SSD over SATA is far too slow, because of the SATA.

Are you from the Android forum?

Well, clearly you do not know, or you would not be suggesting that NVMe is some kind of storage device. It is not. NVMe is a host controller interface specification, the same as SATA. Thus, one might well imagine that some day, we might also see HDDs with a NVMe interface, just as we now have SSDs with a NVMe interface.

I'm not interested in your OCD. I know perfectly well how all disks work and have been in the business since 1997. Please learn basic English. Here is a helper for you:

Hard disk/rust spinner = mechanical drive connected via SATA, previously IDE. Now gets up to about 170MB/s.

SSD = solid state drive connected via SATA, limited by SATA to about 550MB/s.

NVME = solid state drive connected directly to the motherboard using PCI express, gets up to 7000MB/s.

I prefer 7000 to 550.

[quote]... SSDs suck, I use NVME.

You might benefit from a good google search on NVMe. It's not what you seem to think it is.

I know exactly what they are and have several, they're much faster. An SSD over SATA is far too slow, because of the SATA.

Are you from the Android forum?

Well, clearly you do not know, or you would not be suggesting that NVMe is some kind of storage device. It is not. NVMe is a host controller interface specification, the same as SATA. Thus, one might well imagine that some day, we might also see HDDs with a NVMe interface, just as we now have SSDs with a NVMe interface.

I'm not interested in your OCD. I know perfectly well how all disks work and have been in the business since 1997. Please learn basic English. Here is a helper for you:

Hard disk/rust spinner = mechanical drive connected via SATA, previously IDE. Now gets up to about 170MB/s.

SSD = solid state drive connected via SATA, limited by SATA to about 550MB/s.

NVME = solid state drive connected directly to the motherboard using PCI express, gets up to 7000MB/s.

I prefer 7000 to 550.

SSD just means solid state drive, there is nothing that says SSDs refers only to SSDs connected via a SATA interface. Both SATA SSDs and NVMe SSDs are SSDs.

That being said, Rosetta has not historically required a second computer to validate WUs. The "Server status" page claims the validator to be running. Methinks something is up with the server.

SSD just means solid state drive, there is nothing that says SSDs refers only to SSDs connected via a SATA interface. Both SATA SSDs and NVMe SSDs are SSDs.

A Ferrari is a car, but you wouldn't say "I own a car".

That being said, Rosetta has not historically required a second computer to validate WUs. The "Server status" page claims the validator to be running. Methinks something is up with the server.

Agreed. But they usually fix things quickly, at least we can pile up work for them over the weekend. Since they use SSDs and not rust spinners like some projects, it'll clear it in no time.

Any idea why completed work units are not being validated?

Sometimes it's because they are waiting for enough other copies to complete the quorum,

Sometimes it's because the validator program isn't running.

There are currently a very large number waiting for validation (a third of a million). Looking at my waiting ones, and my recently validated ones, they have "minimum quorum 1" which suggests they're self checking, or the server does so, so we're waiting on the server, not any other user. Something must have gone wrong at their end.

I thought I was in this thread when I just posted, so I thought no-one had picked it up yet.
Yes, there's no quorum required before validation. It would be a server issue, even though the Server Status page says they're all running.
Now up over 500k awaiting validation.
I've emailed to report it and hope someone gets to it before everyone runs off for the weekend.
The benefit of West Coast time differences...

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I've emailed to report it and hope someone gets to it before everyone runs off for the weekend.

Who did you email? I didn't think there was anyone listening.

And are running successfully, fully and with no errors on Intel, AMD and Android as well, which can't be said for everything.

My 2 Androids (OS 7 and 11) are getting no tasks.

I was sure I had a few earlier in the week, but my host isn't showing recent completions so you may be right

Just to mention, I'm definitely getting some Android tasks among the current batch.

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I've emailed to report it and hope someone gets to it before everyone runs off for the weekend.

Who did you email? I didn't think there was anyone listening.

Only in the last half hour. I'm not long back from work myself. Give them a chance.

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And are running successfully, fully and with no errors on Intel, AMD and Android as well, which can't be said for everything.

My 2 Androids (OS 7 and 11) are getting no tasks.

I was sure I had a few earlier in the week, but my host isn't showing recent completions so you may be right

Just to mention, I'm definitely getting some Android tasks among the current batch.

I have 2 Androids who were told no tasks available 2, 7, and 9 hours ago. So for some reason there aren't many of them.

I've emailed to report it and hope someone gets to it before everyone runs off for the weekend.

Who did you email? I didn't think there was anyone listening.

Only in the last half hour. I'm not long back from work myself. Give them a chance.

I mean nobody there has responded to anything anyone has sent for half a year or so. I myself tried the three email addresses on their webpage and got nothing.

And are running successfully, fully and with no errors on Intel, AMD and Android as well, which can't be said for everything.

My 2 Androids (OS 7 and 11) are getting no tasks.

I was sure I had a few earlier in the week, but my host isn't showing recent completions so you may be right

Just to mention, I'm definitely getting some Android tasks among the current batch.

I have 2 Androids who were told no tasks available 2, 7, and 9 hours ago. So for some reason there aren't many of them.

I can't answer that. I have a Samsung 10 with Android 12 if that makes a difference and I'm definitely running 2 tasks right now, with 2 recently completed
here

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I have 2 Androids who were told no tasks available 2, 7, and 9 hours ago. So for some reason there aren't many of them.

I can't answer that. I have a Samsung 10 with Android 12 if that makes a difference and I'm definitely running 2 tasks right now, with 2 recently completed
here

I have a Samsung A10 with Android 11 and a VKWorld Mix Plus with Android 7. I guess you got lucky. I normally get quite a few tasks on both of them.

P.S. what projects can you run on your phone? I've found the later Android versions prevent most projects running due to over the top security. All I can run on the Samsung is Einstein, LHC, Rosetta, Universe.

My android phone can't run moo wrapper and Yoyo because it still uses 32 bit system and dnetc was compiled for 64 bits.

My android phone can't run moo wrapper and Yoyo because it still uses 32 bit system and dnetc was compiled for 64 bits.

Same here, but I thought it was a security problem? I have Android 11 (although the phone came with 9), and when I went onto the yoyo forum, they said modern Android versions prohibit whatever they do to run a program from a program.

My android 7 phone runs yoyo and moo just fine.

I've emailed to report it and hope someone gets to it before everyone runs off for the weekend.

Who did you email? I didn't think there was anyone listening.

Only in the last half hour. I'm not long back from work myself. Give them a chance.

I mean nobody there has responded to anything anyone has sent for half a year or so. I myself tried the three email addresses on their webpage and got nothing.

That seems to be true based on their generic email addresses, but it's not the case for me.
Yes, I do know how that sounds, but I posted an email reply I had just a week or so ago
this one
When the pandemic started and people were coming here in their 10 and 100s of thousands and the project was exploding with demands and tasks and exceeded its capacity and everyone was moaning and complaining multiple times per day I was given an email address for a particular exercise to help resolve it from a user perspective, which made a huge difference in very short order at the time.
I never abused that email address and never used it again until Mod.Sense departed (and we discovered how important he was) and circumstances forced me to make use of it again.
I still (hope I) don't abuse the privilege, which I think helps on the few occasions I've needed to use it since.

Saying all that, I haven't had a response as yet, but I don't actually need to have one if they do what's necessary, which is all that counts.
The report has gone in to the right place

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I have 2 Androids who were told no tasks available 2, 7, and 9 hours ago. So for some reason there aren't many of them.

I can't answer that. I have a Samsung 10 with Android 12 if that makes a difference and I'm definitely running 2 tasks right now, with 2 recently completed
here

I have a Samsung A10 with Android 11 and a VKWorld Mix Plus with Android 7. I guess you got lucky. I normally get quite a few tasks on both of them.

P.S. what projects can you run on your phone? I've found the later Android versions prevent most projects running due to over the top security. All I can run on the Samsung is Einstein, LHC, Rosetta, Universe.

Most obviously, WCGrid. I seem to always get tasks when the Project is up. Mapping Cancer Markers, mainly.

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I have 2 Androids who were told no tasks available 2, 7, and 9 hours ago. So for some reason there aren't many of them.

I can't answer that. I have a Samsung 10 with Android 12 if that makes a difference and I'm definitely running 2 tasks right now, with 2 recently completed
here

I have a Samsung A10 with Android 11 and a VKWorld Mix Plus with Android 7. I guess you got lucky. I normally get quite a few tasks on both of them.

P.S. what projects can you run on your phone? I've found the later Android versions prevent most projects running due to over the top security. All I can run on the Samsung is Einstein, LHC, Rosetta, Universe.

Most obviously, WCGrid. I seem to always get tasks when the Project is up. Mapping Cancer Markers, mainly.

My newer phone stopped doing those, it kept crashing the OS. That was before and after I upgraded it from Android 9 to 11. No idea why this happened. Only thing is it has a very small amount of RAM. In fact I can only do 4 Einsteins at once, on its 8 cores. The others do Universe. Can't find anything else with a good supply of work.