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Message 106916 - Posted: 13 Sep 2022, 4:11:31 UTC - in response to Message 106900.  
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I wonder what the bottleneck is at WCG? I've noticed if I'm downloading tasks I've just been issued, they're downloaded much more easily than ones I'm retrying. This suggests to me a disk bottleneck, and the recent tasks are still in the cache. Universe benefitted immensely from going to SSD, perhaps WCG is still on the old rust spinners?

They appear to SLOWLY be making progress against their server problems.

Also, they are starting to offer GPU tasks again.
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Message 106917 - Posted: 13 Sep 2022, 10:06:45 UTC - in response to Message 106915.  

Looks like they finally got the bugs out.
Whats going on here in RAH?
Are they still auto kicking people because of errors, either by the project or by the user?
Probably, but Python is finally running out.



oh? then what?
The end of the world as we know it. You could always try the new 30GB per 4 cores multithreaded climate prediction tasks that are on their way over the next month. I may need to upgrade some machines!



sounds interesting...climate prediction..another cause we need to throw computing power at.
how doomed are we?
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Message 106918 - Posted: 13 Sep 2022, 10:08:54 UTC - in response to Message 106916.  
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I wonder what the bottleneck is at WCG? I've noticed if I'm downloading tasks I've just been issued, they're downloaded much more easily than ones I'm retrying. This suggests to me a disk bottleneck, and the recent tasks are still in the cache. Universe benefitted immensely from going to SSD, perhaps WCG is still on the old rust spinners?

They appear to SLOWLY be making progress against their server problems.

Also, they are starting to offer GPU tasks again.



They still have off and on issues with the data downloads.
I got most of the files and then it stopped.

9/13/2022 10:22:05 AM | World Community Grid | Started download of MCM1_0191041_9462_MCM1_0191041_9462.txt
9/13/2022 10:22:08 AM | World Community Grid | Temporarily failed download of dedae08141072ef749358ddb593d1081.zip: transient HTTP error
9/13/2022 10:22:08 AM | World Community Grid | Backing off 00:02:44 on download of dedae08141072ef749358ddb593d1081.zip

I guess it finished downloading later on....no other project was doing any communication.
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Message 106919 - Posted: 13 Sep 2022, 10:26:53 UTC - in response to Message 106917.  

sounds interesting...climate prediction..another cause we need to throw computing power at.
how doomed are we?
I'm not an alarmist, so the climate changes a bit, it would have done that anyway. We're putting the CO2 back in the atmosphere that used to be there before oil and coal and gas were created, back in a time when plants thrived because they could breathe more easily. But I'll help them do the calculations so they can see sense.
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Message 106920 - Posted: 13 Sep 2022, 10:27:53 UTC - in response to Message 106918.  

They still have off and on issues with the data downloads.
I got most of the files and then it stopped.

9/13/2022 10:22:05 AM | World Community Grid | Started download of MCM1_0191041_9462_MCM1_0191041_9462.txt
9/13/2022 10:22:08 AM | World Community Grid | Temporarily failed download of dedae08141072ef749358ddb593d1081.zip: transient HTTP error
9/13/2022 10:22:08 AM | World Community Grid | Backing off 00:02:44 on download of dedae08141072ef749358ddb593d1081.zip

I guess it finished downloading later on....no other project was doing any communication.
Yeah i wake up each day to computers doing other things, then retry the files several times and they get going again.
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Message 106924 - Posted: 14 Sep 2022, 8:50:20 UTC

Looked at climate and its 0 all across the board.
They talk like a hit and miss type project.
Shove a whole bunch of work out and then nothing else is left after that's been taken.
How fast do they refresh the server?
I'll stick with the projects I have now, they are steady.
I hate hit and miss projects.
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Message 106925 - Posted: 14 Sep 2022, 8:58:38 UTC - in response to Message 106924.  

Looked at climate and its 0 all across the board.
They talk like a hit and miss type project.
Shove a whole bunch of work out and then nothing else is left after that's been taken.
How fast do they refresh the server?
I'll stick with the projects I have now, they are steady.
I hate hit and miss projects.
There should be loads within a month when they get the multithread stuff out, so they can do more detailed work.

I just leave rare projects on all the time and they get it when they get it.
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Message 106926 - Posted: 14 Sep 2022, 21:05:07 UTC - in response to Message 106925.  
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Looked at climate and its 0 all across the board.
They talk like a hit and miss type project.
Shove a whole bunch of work out and then nothing else is left after that's been taken.
How fast do they refresh the server?
I'll stick with the projects I have now, they are steady.
I hate hit and miss projects.
There should be loads within a month when they get the multithread stuff out, so they can do more detailed work.

I just leave rare projects on all the time and they get it when they get it.



I'll keep watching then.
I see you and Jim over there in the boards.
I have 50% memory capacity still since even the tasks here are not as large as they used to be.
But I'm not contributing here due to that kick at any little thing that goes wrong bot.
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Message 106927 - Posted: 14 Sep 2022, 21:09:26 UTC - in response to Message 106924.  

Looked at climate and its 0 all across the board.
They talk like a hit and miss type project.
Shove a whole bunch of work out and then nothing else is left after that's been taken.
How fast do they refresh the server?


I hate that too. Trouble with leaving that project on is that after a few weeks, my Boinc Client becomes so desperate for its work that it ignores other projects that have work. So I must set CPDN to no new tasks so that I can get work units for the other projects.
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Message 106928 - Posted: 15 Sep 2022, 1:43:24 UTC - in response to Message 106927.  

Looked at climate and its 0 all across the board.
They talk like a hit and miss type project.
Shove a whole bunch of work out and then nothing else is left after that's been taken.
How fast do they refresh the server?


I hate that too. Trouble with leaving that project on is that after a few weeks, my Boinc Client becomes so desperate for its work that it ignores other projects that have work. So I must set CPDN to no new tasks so that I can get work units for the other projects.
I notice that too. Boinc as usual isn't too bright. So it's asked Climate for tasks, and there are none, and it's not allowed to talk to it for another hour, this stops it talking to WCG because it's hoping for a Climate task in an hour's time. But there isn't, so it then asks WCG, but they have none left, but it could have got some half an hour ago! If you tweak the buffer (increase the minimum) it will always ask something else for work.
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Message 106929 - Posted: 15 Sep 2022, 7:21:33 UTC - in response to Message 106928.  
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I use this bat script to force boinc to ask for work once every 266 seconds

cd e:\Program Files\BOINC
e:
:loop

TIMEOUT /T 10 /nobreak
boinccmd.exe --project http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org update

TIMEOUT /T 256 /nobreak
goto loop
I run only only openpandemics gpu on it
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Message 106930 - Posted: 15 Sep 2022, 7:29:17 UTC

I do the same, but use Windows task scheduler. Bit fiddly to persuade to do what you want, but it means there isn't a bat file running non stop.
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Message 106942 - Posted: 20 Sep 2022, 12:23:00 UTC

Long time user of Boinc, first time poster here, anyway, I thought I'd see what's up at the moment? Obviously "Tasks ready to send = 0" isn't exactly a good thing...

I thought I was having all sorts of issues with the servers etc I'm crunching on, very, very few of them seemed to be doing any work at all lately.

Probably explains why if there's zero work to do :|
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Message 106943 - Posted: 20 Sep 2022, 14:34:30 UTC - in response to Message 106942.  

Trouble is, too many projects have no work these days. Climate Prediction has had no Linux work since July. Rosetta has had no non-Python work in quite a while. World Community Grid was essentially down for about six months, although in the last few days, I have been getting a lot of work. MilkyWay and Universe have work most of the time, but I am not really interested in what they do. I have them set for minimum priority and Get No Tasks most of the time.
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Message 106945 - Posted: 21 Sep 2022, 7:17:39 UTC

Well, Rosetta has not sent out work either for the past few days. Any idea why?
I would be keen on their Pythons, but nothing available :-(
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Message 106946 - Posted: 21 Sep 2022, 7:32:12 UTC - in response to Message 106945.  

Well, Rosetta has not sent out work either for the past few days. Any idea why?
I would be keen on their Pythons, but nothing available :-(


There was a single dump of Python tasks and they have now been completed no guessing whether there will ever be any more.
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Message 106947 - Posted: 21 Sep 2022, 14:36:26 UTC

LHC@home, Einstein@home are submitting work ad WCG has given me also a few OPNG tasks using my GTX 1650.
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Message 106948 - Posted: 21 Sep 2022, 14:37:25 UTC - in response to Message 106947.  

Did you have download problems?
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Message 106949 - Posted: 21 Sep 2022, 16:53:49 UTC - in response to Message 106947.  

LHC@home, Einstein@home are submitting work ad WCG has given me also a few OPNG tasks using my GTX 1650.


I am now getting WCG tasks as fast as I can process them. Typically, 4 tasks are running and 8 are downloaded: ready-to-go.

I do not do LHC@home or Einstein@home.
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Message 106950 - Posted: 21 Sep 2022, 17:49:56 UTC

Rosie died and all her work went to a AI.
Figured they abandoned this side of things once everyone left posting here.
Bakerlab turned into TAC.
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