damn trash is showing up in the python stuff.
2 x I have had to abort stuff with 6 hours run time and 20 mins cpu time and cpu usage of .20% and a completion rate of .003%/ 2 secs.

aaae-mNHM_pp-mNMABU-mPHE-mACHA14C_pp_2867243_12_1

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Also, soon after BOINC starts, its event log file should include a line showing the processor features, such as:

7/30/2022 6:06:16 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes f16c rdrandsyscall nx lm avx avx2 vmx smx tm2 pbe fsgsbase bmi1 hle smep bmi2

Show us this line from your machine so we can check for some missing features that are required for the Rosetta Python tasks.

damn trash is showing up in the python stuff.
2 x I have had to abort stuff with 6 hours run time and 20 mins cpu time and cpu usage of .20% and a completion rate of .003%/ 2 secs.

aaae-mNHM_pp-mNMABU-mPHE-mACHA14C_pp_2867243_12_1

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Also, soon after BOINC starts, its event log file should include a line showing the processor features, such as:

7/30/2022 6:06:16 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes f16c rdrandsyscall nx lm avx avx2 vmx smx tm2 pbe fsgsbase bmi1 hle smep bmi2

Show us this line from your machine so we can check for some missing features that are required for the Rosetta Python tasks.

Not relevant, I have been doing Python since they first came out. And this is a Ryzen 3700X so if it were not have what was needed for Python then I was sold a bogus cpu.
I have 23 finished ok. 2 errors and 9 in progress at this time.
These tasks have been canceled for now.
The wingman on each did not start them in time.

I'm running another project that I can not interrupt at this time, but this page will tell you everything you need to know about my CPU: https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/ryzen-7-3700x.c2130

Err... no. It's because I only trust them as far as they've nominally tested something and no further.
But I take your point and, using the link kotenok2000 provided (thanks), I've found 6.1.36 and fully upgraded VirtualBox now

The latest version is not always the best, I'm on the latest 5 before they messed things up for half the projects.

What of it? You make a distinction to no effect.

Lots of assumptions and fallacies there. The issue (allegedly anyway) relates to info on a Darkweb site with datalists going back to 2016 that's supposed to have my data on. My system hasn't been compromised - some unknown commercial system from years ago was compromised by having its data (containing my passwords and other identifiable data) exposed.

Why would a commercial system have more than one of your passwords?

Because a few sites I connect to have more than one password for different areas and those that have a commercial backend hold financial details.
It really is best you don't act like you know what's going on with my systems better than I do when the sum-total of everything you know doesn't exceed zero.

I'd already fully updated and done full scans with Power Eraser, finding nothing wrong with my system at all.

Updating your system isn't going to fix anything, I've no idea why you're concentrating on that. If a commercial company has been hacked, there's nothing you can do with your computer to sort that.

Virus databases are updated multiple times daily. Of course updating before scanning is relevant. If you have no idea, that's your problem, not mine.
And if you're conflating updating virus databases with program updates and whatever access issue some companies have had, even moreso.

As far as relying on using a version of AVG free that makes no pretence of having real-time protection goes,

Of course it has real time protection, why would you think it doesn't? It for example spotted me using KMSAuto to pirate windows and confiscated the executable immediately. Of course I told it that was safe :-)

It doesn't for two reasons. One, they don't claim to include it in the free version - that's what the commercial version provides. And two, less importantly, you also confirmed it doesn't in your previous msg.
That it reported one thing is no guarantee of reporting on any other thing.

I think better of Malwarebytes, but it's certainly no better than the more comprehensive package I have.

Malwarebytes is for malware, not viruses.

Which is fine, because I wasn't exclusively talking about viruses (in fact not talking about viruses at all)

I'm afraid you're relying on a reputation that disappeared in the early 2000s and are hanging onto it like grim death.
Combined with the fact that Norton is the only software able to find and internally update elements of Windows that Windows itself can't find and update, I'm more than happy with it.

Norton always has been and always will be a rip off.

Confirming my point precisely

Like I said, I've removed viruses (using AVG!) that got past someone's Norton. Norton is absolutely rubbish, half the time it fails to update itself properly, and you trust it with the rest of your computer? I assume you're paying hard earned cash for what most people get for free. In fact at my last two places of work I put AVG on everything instead of the Norton they had previously, and nobody ever had a problem after that. I guess I was supposed to pay for the commercial license but it let me install 1000 home versions :-)

Not that I'm talking about viruses per se, but it's not possible to say what allows anything onto a system as the weakest link by far is always the user.
But aside from that, all independent testing reports AVG-free low down compared to other providers and Norton very high up, even against zero-day threats. And that's been so for the dozen-plus years I was more involved in comparing them as well as the other day when I looked at the most recent results. Combine that with the integrated nature of Norton (Firewall, VPN, Anti-tracking, DarkWeb monitoring and separate utilities) contained in the package, AVG falls into the toytown bracket I'm afraid.

AVG's main benefit is in its inability to find anything serious, then saying everything's fine because it couldn't find anything, which is the kind of assurance that should really set alarm bells ringing.
Unfortunately, people who like to get everything free do like to claim that a failure to report problems it can't find is some kind of guarantee of comprehensive quality. That always gets a laugh from me.
I wouldn't worry about what I pay for. All my devices are covered by otherwise unused licences

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Robert, I just killed them after that post.
They were not using enough CPU to be worth wasting my time with.
When I see tasks with long run times and very little cpu usage time (via boincstats) and .10 or .15% cpu usage especially in here, i know they are stuck or bad tasks.

I don't know what all that gibberish means other than the tasks is FUBAR and needs to go.

In this case everything after those two tasks completed normally.

Looking at a couple of lines of the errors and there is one that points to a Virtualbox error.
I see there is a new version out, but since 1.34 is working on my system flawlessly, I am not sure upgrading to 1.36 is a good idea or not.

Have you guys seen DENIS project yet?
Still running some beta, but short work.
It's about the heart.
It's just CPU

I have had to use proxifier to connect to denis domain. Their firewall blocks russia.

Have you guys seen DENIS project yet?
Still running some beta, but short work.
It's about the heart.
It's just CPU

I participated there years ago. I'll look again.

The latest version is not always the best, I'm on the latest 5 before they messed things up for half the projects.

What of it? You make a distinction to no effect.

I can't make it any simpler. Version 6 of VB breaks some projects. So I use 5, which works with all of them.

It really is best you don't act like you know what's going on with my systems better than I do when the sum-total of everything you know doesn't exceed zero.

You're the one that got hacked. Better rethink your password strategy.

Virus databases are updated multiple times daily. Of course updating before scanning is relevant. If you have no idea, that's your problem, not mine.
And if you're conflating updating virus databases with program updates and whatever access issue some companies have had, even moreso.

You're the one talking about program updates, not AV updates.

It doesn't for two reasons. One, they don't claim to include it in the free version - that's what the commercial version provides. And two, less importantly, you also confirmed it doesn't in your previous msg.
That it reported one thing is no guarantee of reporting on any other thing.

You're confusing the two programs I use. Malwarebytes has no realtime protection for free. AVG does.

Which is fine, because I wasn't exclusively talking about viruses (in fact not talking about viruses at all)

Viruses are the only dangerous ones.

I'm afraid you're relying on a reputation that disappeared in the early 2000s and are hanging onto it like grim death.
Combined with the fact that Norton is the only software able to find and internally update elements of Windows that Windows itself can't find and update, I'm more than happy with it.

Norton always has been and always will be a rip off.

Confirming my point precisely

WTF? You've forgotten which side of the argument you're on. I like AVG, you like Norton.

Not that I'm talking about viruses per se, but it's not possible to say what allows anything onto a system as the weakest link by far is always the user.

Then why do you need Norton?

But aside from that, all independent testing reports AVG-free low down compared to other providers and Norton very high up, even against zero-day threats.

We all know about bribery and advertising. Just like the first link in Google is paid for and nothing to do with what you were looking for.

And that's been so for the dozen-plus years I was more involved in comparing them as well as the other day when I looked at the most recent results. Combine that with the integrated nature of Norton (Firewall, VPN, Anti-tracking, DarkWeb monitoring and separate utilities) contained in the package, AVG falls into the toytown bracket I'm afraid.

And yet I see it consistently cleaning up very nasty viruses Norton failed to.

Unfortunately, people who like to get everything free do like to claim that a failure to report problems it can't find is some kind of guarantee of comprehensive quality. That always gets a laugh from me.
I wouldn't worry about what I pay for. All my devices are covered by otherwise unused licences

The day I pay for software is the day programmers stop putting bugs in it.

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[quote]And that's been so for the dozen-plus years I was more involved in comparing them as well as the other day when I looked at the most recent results. Combine that with the integrated nature of Norton (Firewall, VPN, Anti-tracking, DarkWeb monitoring and separate utilities) contained in the package, AVG falls into the toytown bracket I'm afraid.

And yet I see it consistently cleaning up very nasty viruses Norton failed to.

One way to do that is to report things as very nasty viruses even if they aren't viruses at all.

Unfortunately, people who like to get everything free do like to claim that a failure to report problems it can't find is some kind of guarantee of comprehensive quality. That always gets a laugh from me.
I wouldn't worry about what I pay for. All my devices are covered by otherwise unused licences

The day I pay for software is the day programmers stop putting bugs in it.

Most bugs are put in accidentally, not deliberately.

Paying for software allows more testing to find the accidental bugs, so they can be removed before users see them.

Users using a variety of antivirus software makes it difficult for virus writers to produce a virus that can evade all of them.

However, antivirus software often has features that other antivirus software expects to find only in viruses, so it is often a bad idea to install more than one antivirus program on the same computer. For example, they often have strings of bytes telling them what to look for to recognize certain viruses, and other antivirus programs looking for the same strings of bytes will see them as viruses.

One way to do that is to report things as very nasty viruses even if they aren't viruses at all.

No, I meant it cleaned up a screwed up unusable computer, on many occasions.

Most bugs are put in accidentally, not deliberately.

So incompetance then.

Paying for software allows more testing to find the accidental bugs, so they can be removed before users see them.

If 1 million people buy it, I doubt my payment makes much difference.

Users using a variety of antivirus software makes it difficult for virus writers to produce a virus that can evade all of them.

They all work pretty much the same way.

However, antivirus software often has features that other antivirus software expects to find only in viruses, so it is often a bad idea to install more than one antivirus program on the same computer. For example, they often have strings of bytes telling them what to look for to recognize certain viruses, and other antivirus programs looking for the same strings of bytes will see them as viruses.

I wondered why they picked a fight with each other. Although I've never seen them report each other as a virus, just observed a severe slowdown of the computer.

I haven't had any WUs for weeks. No explanation or notices. Is it time to disconnect from this project?

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I haven't had any WUs for weeks. No explanation or notices. Is it time to disconnect from this project?

I've had quite a few. You may need to check a few things,

Is Vbox installed? If so, what version?

What CPU does your computer have?

Does your computer have virtual computing enabled?

The latest version is not always the best, I'm on the latest 5 before they messed things up for half the projects.

What of it? You make a distinction to no effect.

I can't make it any simpler. Version 6 of VB breaks some projects. So I use 5, which works with all of them.

What you describe as "best" is actually leveling down to the least capable/updated project and has nothing to do with the product.
Some might describe this as the "worst", not the best.
Point being, it has nothing to do with me that you have to use the lowest common denominator version of VBox so that you don't break some of the variety of projects you chose to run. Your problem.

It really is best you don't act like you know what's going on with my systems better than I do when the sum-total of everything you know doesn't exceed zero.

You're the one that got hacked. Better rethink your password strategy.

As clearly explained at the outset, I haven't been hacked at all. As well as the zero you know, either learn to read or learn to comprehend what you've read. I have no interest in being a target of your lack of comprehension.

Virus databases are updated multiple times daily. Of course updating before scanning is relevant. If you have no idea, that's your problem, not mine.
And if you're conflating updating virus databases with program updates and whatever access issue some companies have had, even moreso.

You're the one talking about program updates, not AV updates.

I'm talking about all of them, not the only one you think I'm talking about. Ditto the earlier comment.

Which is fine, because I wasn't exclusively talking about viruses (in fact not talking about viruses at all)

Viruses are the only dangerous ones.

Not in this case. Ditto the earlier comment.

I'm afraid you're relying on a reputation that disappeared in the early 2000s and are hanging onto it like grim death.
Combined with the fact that Norton is the only software able to find and internally update elements of Windows that Windows itself can't find and update, I'm more than happy with it.

Norton always has been and always will be a rip off.

Confirming my point precisely

WTF? You've forgotten which side of the argument you're on. I like AVG, you like Norton.

I haven't forgotten anything. 'Hanging on like grim death to a reputation that disappeared in the early 2000s' is the relevant part.

Not that I'm talking about viruses per se, but it's not possible to say what allows anything onto a system as the weakest link by far is always the user.

Then why do you need Norton?

Reliable automation and silent threats primarily. The same applies to any AV product - depending very much on its reliability.

But aside from that, all independent testing reports AVG-free low down compared to other providers and Norton very high up, even against zero-day threats.

We all know about bribery and advertising. Just like the first link in Google is paid for and nothing to do with what you were looking for.

Fascinating... if not for the fact that the two sites that provide the best independent testing carry no advertising, so a point of zero relevance.
Your simplistic riposte relies on everyone having a lower level of insight than you, which would be pretty hard to achieve tbh.

And that's been so for the dozen-plus years I was more involved in comparing them as well as the other day when I looked at the most recent results. Combine that with the integrated nature of Norton (Firewall, VPN, Anti-tracking, DarkWeb monitoring and separate utilities) contained in the package, AVG falls into the toytown bracket I'm afraid.

And yet I see it consistently cleaning up very nasty viruses Norton failed to.

Your one example, of dubious believability tbh, is doing a heck of a lot of work here. It's already morphed from one example into a sufficient sample to make a claim lasting the best part of two decades to my knowledge.

Unfortunately, people who like to get everything free do like to claim that a failure to report problems it can't find is some kind of guarantee of comprehensive quality. That always gets a laugh from me.
I wouldn't worry about what I pay for. All my devices are covered by otherwise unused licences

The day I pay for software is the day programmers stop putting bugs in it.

Just as well your employer doesn't take the same view of you

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I haven't had any WUs for weeks. No explanation or notices. Is it time to disconnect from this project?

Go to your Account page, Computers and click on View, click on Details, down near the bottom should be an option relating to Python Tasks, click on Allow.
And it's probably worth reducing the size of your cache to avoid missing deadlines.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Thanks for helping but I opened my account, opened my computer and details but I don't see anything about allowing Python WUs. I take it these files must be very large. What would be a good cache size to manage these files?

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You should see something like this.

I take it these files must be very large. What would be a good cache size to manage these files?

The cache has nothing to do with the size of the Tasks, it has to do with how many days work you keep on the system.
Running more than one Project, there really isn't any need for a cache at all (0.1 days and 0.01 additional days is plenty). With just one project, half a day is more than enough.

Rosetta work deadlines are 3 days, your Task history shows around 2.5 days to return work, which would mean there would be times where you would miss a deadline. With a 1 day cache (or less) there would be next to no chance of running in to deadline issues under normal circumstances.

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Grant
Darwin NT

What you describe as "best" is actually leveling down to the least capable/updated project and has nothing to do with the product.
Some might describe this as the "worst", not the best.
Point being, it has nothing to do with me that you have to use the lowest common denominator version of VBox so that you don't break some of the variety of projects you chose to run. Your problem.

It's called backwards compatibility and Oracle can't be arsed doing it. Why should the project have to rewrite it's code?

As clearly explained at the outset, I haven't been hacked at all. As well as the zero you know, either learn to read or learn to comprehend what you've read. I have no interest in being a target of your lack of comprehension.

If you had the sense to use different passwords everywhere, then one company getting hacked would not have affected anything but your account with them.

I'm talking about all of them, not the only one you think I'm talking about. Ditto the earlier comment.

You seem to think updating programs other than AV is important for security. Most things update themselves anyway, not sure how you managed to forget to do that.

I haven't forgotten anything. 'Hanging on like grim death to a reputation that disappeared in the early 2000s' is the relevant part.

I said "Norton always has been and always will be a rip off." and you agreed with "Confirming my point precisely". So why do you use a product you consider to be a rip off?

Reliable automation and silent threats primarily. The same applies to any AV product - depending very much on its reliability.

Your words were "the weakest link by far is always the user." - are you the weakest link? If not, you don't need AV.

Fascinating... if not for the fact that the two sites that provide the best independent testing carry no advertising, so a point of zero relevance.

Hidden advertising. There may be no banners you can see, but the one they rate highest is the one that paid the most. for example, when I sell things on Ebay, I can elect to give them a higher percentage of the sale if my results show before others.

Your one example, of dubious believability tbh, is doing a heck of a lot of work here. It's already morphed from one example into a sufficient sample to make a claim lasting the best part of two decades to my knowledge.

I used to repair, build, and upgrade PCs for a living. I received many unusable computers with viruses that got past Norton. In half the cases, Norton just stopped bothering to upgrade and didn't inform the user. In the other half, it just didn't know it was a virus. In fact I can't remember a single virus ridden computer with anything but Norton.

Just as well your employer doesn't take the same view of you

I never make mistakes. I was always praised for getting the job done without moaning about stupid things like health and softy. I saved my employers a fortune by doing jobs a contractor would have charged three times as much to do.

I take it these files must be very large. What would be a good cache size to manage these files?

The cache has nothing to do with the size of the Tasks, it has to do with how many days work you keep on the system.
Running more than one Project, there really isn't any need for a cache at all (0.1 days and 0.01 additional days is plenty). With just one project, half a day is more than enough.

Rosetta work deadlines are 3 days, your Task history shows around 2.5 days to return work, which would mean there would be times where you would miss a deadline. With a 1 day cache (or less) there would be next to no chance of running in to deadline issues under normal circumstances.

Thanks I run several projects at once. I haven't noticed any missed deadlines, unless I go on vacation or something. As fa as I know the project sends the number of WUs it thinks I can handle. Anyway, why are there no WUs? All I get are Einstein and Milkyway WUs.

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Thanks I run several projects at once. I haven't noticed any missed deadlines, unless I go on vacation or something. As fa as I know the project sends the number of WUs it thinks I can handle. Anyway, why are there no WUs? All I get are Einstein and Milkyway WUs.

I leave my 7 computers and 3 phones running when on vacation.

Some projects give stupid estimates for time. For example Einstein CPU tasks take me 8 hours on a fast computer and a day and a half on a slow computer. Yet on the slow computer they start off by saying estimated 2 hours, so they download way more than they can do on time.

There are mainly only Virtual Box Python tasks available here, it's been that way for a while. Do you have:

1) Virtual Box installed?
2) VT-X or equivalent enabled in the BIOS?
3) Check your computer on your account here, at the bottom of it's details, "virtual box jobs" needs to be turned on. If it has a skip button, they're already on. If it has an allow button, press it. You might have to do that again if you fail a few tasks and it bans your computer.

P.S. I'm on Einstein and Milkyway too. I collected 12 Radeon R9 280X cards which are damn good at double precision. 38 seconds per task each! They heat the place for the things in my picture.

On Einstein I've been trying to get those Radio Wave ones for GPU. Unfortunately Bernd has something important to do for a week so the beta testing is halted.