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Message 106524 - Posted: 13 Jul 2022, 1:15:52 UTC - in response to Message 106471.  
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05/07/2022 20:27:46 | World Community Grid | Resetting project
05/07/2022 20:27:46 | World Community Grid | Detaching from project
05/07/2022 20:28:51 | Fetching configuration file from https://master.worldcommunitygrid.org/get_project_config.php
05/07/2022 20:29:48 | World Community Grid | Fetching scheduler list
05/07/2022 20:29:50 | World Community Grid | Master file download succeeded
05/07/2022 20:29:55 | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: Project initialization.
05/07/2022 20:29:55 | World Community Grid | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
05/07/2022 20:29:57 | World Community Grid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

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13/07/2022 1:56:54 | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
13/07/2022 1:56:54 | World Community Grid | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
13/07/2022 1:56:56 | World Community Grid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
13/07/2022 1:56:56 | World Community Grid | This project seems to have changed its URL. When convenient, remove the project, then add http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/
13/07/2022 1:56:56 | World Community Grid | Project has no tasks available
13/07/2022 1:56:56 | World Community Grid | Project requested delay of 121 seconds

Also, I assume that should be "https" not "http"
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Message 106530 - Posted: 13 Jul 2022, 10:29:08 UTC - in response to Message 106524.  

WCG had some mis-configuration, now fixed after a couple of iterations.
May show http short term but IIRC comms is https.
See WCG forum for details.

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Message 106531 - Posted: 13 Jul 2022, 14:31:43 UTC - in response to Message 106523.  
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I have an i3-8350K 4C Win10 16Gb RAM and a 5800X 8C/16T Win10 32Gb RAM - not a million miles off your two but much less RAM - and I'm doing nothing out of the ordinary.
iPlayer streaming in the background and some Excel work at most
I find the problem occurs when I do simple things. Click the start menu and it takes 3 seconds to do it. There must be some important difference between our setups. Windows 10/11? I don't think it's the virtualbox version, I have the same problem with 5 and 6.Back last year when I had windows 10,. I don't recall virtualbox being such a nuisance slowing things down, I often ran LHC on all or most of the cores on my main machine I was internet browsing on.
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Message 106532 - Posted: 13 Jul 2022, 14:35:19 UTC - in response to Message 106530.  

WCG had some mis-configuration, now fixed after a couple of iterations.
May show http short term but IIRC comms is https.
See WCG forum for details.

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Which doesn't tell us why they're taking so bloody long to turn on the taps! CPU intermittent, Android virtually never, GPU none at all. Ridiculous.
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Message 106539 - Posted: 15 Jul 2022, 23:12:10 UTC - in response to Message 106532.  

WCG had some mis-configuration, now fixed after a couple of iterations.
May show http short term but IIRC comms is https.
See WCG forum for details.

Paul.
Which doesn't tell us why they're taking so bloody long to turn on the taps! CPU intermittent, Android virtually never, GPU none at all. Ridiculous.



Because if you would read their news forum section you would see they are having internal system to system communication problems among other really mind boggling IT issues. I can usually follow tech, but this is more like rack mounted server systems in a clean room vs a small rack system in an office.
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Message 106540 - Posted: 15 Jul 2022, 23:16:33 UTC

7/15/2022 9:30:11 AM | World Community Grid | URL https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 4889728; resource share 100
7/15/2022 9:30:11 AM | | Setting up GUI RPC socket
7/15/2022 9:30:11 AM | | Checking presence of 459 project files
7/15/2022 9:30:11 AM | | Suspending computation - user request
7/15/2022 9:32:11 AM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
7/15/2022 9:32:12 AM | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.
7/15/2022 9:42:22 AM | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
7/15/2022 9:42:22 AM | World Community Grid | Requesting new tasks for CPU
7/15/2022 9:42:24 AM | World Community Grid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
7/15/2022 9:42:24 AM | World Community Grid | This project seems to have changed its URL. When convenient, remove the project, then add http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/
7/15/2022 9:42:24 AM | World Community Grid | Project has no tasks available
7/15/2022 9:42:24 AM | World Community Grid | Project requested delay of 121 seconds


7/15/2022 2:59:10 PM | World Community Grid | No tasks sent
7/15/2022 2:59:10 PM | World Community Grid | No tasks are available for OpenPandemics - COVID 19
7/15/2022 2:59:10 PM | World Community Grid | No tasks are available for OpenPandemics - COVID-19 - GPU
7/15/2022 2:59:10 PM | World Community Grid | No tasks are available for Mapping Cancer Markers
7/15/2022 2:59:10 PM | World Community Grid | No tasks are available for the applications you have selected.
7/15/2022 2:59:10 PM | World Community Grid | Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
7/15/2022 2:59:10 PM | World Community Grid | Tasks for Intel GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them


Then at 6pm I got some stuff
7/15/2022 6:10:45 PM | World Community Grid | Starting task OPN1_0109681_00681_2
7/15/2022 6:10:45 PM | World Community Grid | Starting task OPN1_0109681_00200_2
7/15/2022 6:10:45 PM | World Community Grid | Starting task OPN1_0109681_01471_2
7/15/2022 6:10:45 PM | World Community Grid | Starting task OPN1_0109681_00082_2

And 2.5 hrs later it was done and no work available.
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Message 106541 - Posted: 15 Jul 2022, 23:55:04 UTC - in response to Message 106539.  

Because if you would read their news forum section you would see they are having internal system to system communication problems among other really mind boggling IT issues. I can usually follow tech, but this is more like rack mounted server systems in a clean room vs a small rack system in an office.
A multi billion dollar company with schoolboy errors. They need more than 3 techs.
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Message 106542 - Posted: 15 Jul 2022, 23:56:51 UTC - in response to Message 106540.  
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And 2.5 hrs later it was done and no work available.
All my CPUs are running flat out on WCG. I've got loads of covid and rainfall, almost a 2 day queue on them all. It's just Androids and GPUs I can't get anything for.

UPDATE: Rainfall is coming in RIGHT NOW. Grab.

And they've changed 3 day to 6 day time limit.
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Message 106545 - Posted: 16 Jul 2022, 10:50:30 UTC - in response to Message 106542.  

And 2.5 hrs later it was done and no work available.
All my CPUs are running flat out on WCG. I've got loads of covid and rainfall, almost a 2 day queue on them all. It's just Androids and GPUs I can't get anything for.

UPDATE: Rainfall is coming in RIGHT NOW. Grab.

And they've changed 3 day to 6 day time limit.



Your stealing al the work again! lol
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Message 106546 - Posted: 16 Jul 2022, 13:38:33 UTC - in response to Message 106545.  

Your stealing al the work again! lol
I have 7 computers to think of. It would be silicon cruelty to do otherwise. Would you have them doing endless Nbody tasks for Milkyway? They were getting bored!
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Message 106547 - Posted: 16 Jul 2022, 22:53:33 UTC - in response to Message 106546.  

Your stealing al the work again! lol
I have 7 computers to think of. It would be silicon cruelty to do otherwise. Would you have them doing endless Nbody tasks for Milkyway? They were getting bored!



leave some for me! my chips are getting bored as well. But at least they have a wide variety of work to do.
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Message 106548 - Posted: 16 Jul 2022, 23:02:30 UTC - in response to Message 106547.  
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Your stealing al the work again! lol
I have 7 computers to think of. It would be silicon cruelty to do otherwise. Would you have them doing endless Nbody tasks for Milkyway? They were getting bored!
leave some for me! my chips are getting bored as well. But at least they have a wide variety of work to do.
My buffers are full, I'm no longer tickling the server.

Irritatingly some of the African Rainfall tasks have a very short deadline and my older machines can't do them in time. I've sent some back as aborted.

My GPUs want to play with WCG again. I was doing folding at home, but that's a horrid buggy program worse than boinc. They're mostly on Einstein just now, as they're changing over from Gamma to Radio Wave stuff for a new idea a PhD student came up with.
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Message 106555 - Posted: 17 Jul 2022, 8:59:48 UTC - in response to Message 106548.  

Your stealing al the work again! lol
I have 7 computers to think of. It would be silicon cruelty to do otherwise. Would you have them doing endless Nbody tasks for Milkyway? They were getting bored!
leave some for me! my chips are getting bored as well. But at least they have a wide variety of work to do.
My buffers are full, I'm no longer tickling the server.

Irritatingly some of the African Rainfall tasks have a very short deadline and my older machines can't do them in time. I've sent some back as aborted.

My GPUs want to play with WCG again. I was doing folding at home, but that's a horrid buggy program worse than boinc. They're mostly on Einstein just now, as they're changing over from Gamma to Radio Wave stuff for a new idea a PhD student came up with.



I've got gamma ray still running on GPU and the BRP4x64 on CPU.
I wonder if I will get any mircat or if that is to advanced for my 1080.
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Message 106557 - Posted: 17 Jul 2022, 14:48:41 UTC - in response to Message 106555.  
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I've got gamma ray still running on GPU and the BRP4x64 on CPU.
Same here. The BRP should be coming to AMD and Nvidia GPUs, but I haven't seen it./ I've asked here: https://einsteinathome.org/content/em-searches-brp-raidiopulsar-and-fgrp-gamma-ray-pulsar?page=1#comment-198840

I wonder if I will get any mircat or if that is to advanced for my 1080.
What is mircat? Do you mean MeerKAT, this? https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2018-07-13-meerkat-telescope-unveiled-south-africa
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Message 106566 - Posted: 18 Jul 2022, 6:36:07 UTC - in response to Message 106557.  
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I've got gamma ray still running on GPU and the BRP4x64 on CPU.
Same here. The BRP should be coming to AMD and Nvidia GPUs, but I haven't seen it./ I've asked here: https://einsteinathome.org/content/em-searches-brp-raidiopulsar-and-fgrp-gamma-ray-pulsar?page=1#comment-198840

I wonder if I will get any mircat or if that is to advanced for my 1080.
What is mircat? Do you mean MeerKAT, this? https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2018-07-13-meerkat-telescope-unveiled-south-africa



yep...meerkat.

WCG doesn't have any GPU work? All I get, when I get anything its CPU work.
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Message 106567 - Posted: 18 Jul 2022, 12:55:05 UTC - in response to Message 106566.  

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WCG doesn't have any GPU work? All I get, when I get anything its CPU work.

A year or two ago, WCG had some GPU work. None since then.
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Message 106568 - Posted: 18 Jul 2022, 15:58:03 UTC - in response to Message 106567.  
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WCG doesn't have any GPU work? All I get, when I get anything its CPU work.

A year or two ago, WCG had some GPU work. None since then.
It was only covid that developed GPU work. And they only did that occasionally because the scientists couldn't keep up with the speed of the data coming back. I thought we were going to get a huge lump of GPU work to start with since they'd been deprived of results for 4 months, but the servers are having load problems. They were having difficulty yesterday sending out all the data for the African Rainfall Project on CPU. My computers were retrying about 7 times before getting a file.
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Message 106574 - Posted: 19 Jul 2022, 21:03:20 UTC - in response to Message 106568.  
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WCG doesn't have any GPU work? All I get, when I get anything its CPU work.

A year or two ago, WCG had some GPU work. None since then.
It was only covid that developed GPU work. And they only did that occasionally because the scientists couldn't keep up with the speed of the data coming back. I thought we were going to get a huge lump of GPU work to start with since they'd been deprived of results for 4 months, but the servers are having load problems. They were having difficulty yesterday sending out all the data for the African Rainfall Project on CPU. My computers were retrying about 7 times before getting a file.


I've been dry for a week now.
You would think they would have a better IT team.
At this rate its going to be end of the year before they are ready and even then I doubt it.
And I wish they had a way to show how much work they are generating or holding like here so I could see if they are dry or just having IT issues.
Have you seen any new posts from them for news?
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Message 106575 - Posted: 19 Jul 2022, 21:09:58 UTC - in response to Message 106574.  

I thought they had a better IT team. This seems to take forever to figure out what their problems are and how to fix them. How long has this invalid URL thing been going on? That should have been easy to fix.

Its been a week now since my last tasks. Seems like it is going to take them the rest of the year to get up and running again.
It's beyond a joke they can't get this to work. Total and utter incompetance. I doubt the "IT staff" have any IT experience at all, probably students.

I'm getting work every other day en masse and a trickle inbetween, but then I'm pestering the server with all 10 machines every 5 minutes. Fuck them. If they can't produce the work, I'm gonna keep asking for it.
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Message 106576 - Posted: 19 Jul 2022, 23:13:34 UTC - in response to Message 106575.  

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I'm getting work every other day en masse and a trickle inbetween, but then I'm pestering the server with all 10 machines every 5 minutes. Fuck them. If they can't produce the work, I'm gonna keep asking for it.

What if they start giving priority for getting work to machines that have gone the longest since their last request?
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