Nothing magical. Just different hardware, possibly with a different instruction set.

Completely different instruction set.
I'm pretty sure WCG was actually running on an IBM mainframe. They've had to move it over to x86 based systems. Not a trivial task.

So into the 21st century at last. Why does IBM still exist?

Nothing magical. Just different hardware, possibly with a different instruction set.

Completely different instruction set.
I'm pretty sure WCG was actually running on an IBM mainframe. They've had to move it over to x86 based systems. Not a trivial task.

So into the 21st century at last. Why does IBM still exist?

To fund AI. Deep thought or whatever that is/was that took on humans in Jeopardy.
You want to see what all they are into, then go here: https://www.ibm.com/us-en/

And here we go again...2 mins computation and boom, dead but still running.
So far 2 tasks. Yesterday and today.
This is so old.

Yesterday's task goes to a Linux machine now.
I just killed todays buggy task, so not assigned yet.

Nothing magical. Just different hardware, possibly with a different instruction set.

Completely different instruction set.
I'm pretty sure WCG was actually running on an IBM mainframe. They've had to move it over to x86 based systems. Not a trivial task.

So into the 21st century at last. Why does IBM still exist?

To fund AI. Deep thought or whatever that is/was that took on humans in Jeopardy.
You want to see what all they are into, then go here: https://www.ibm.com/us-en/

Looks like something you pay them a lot of money to set up then can't get out of because it's not the same as anyone else.

And here we go again...2 mins computation and boom, dead but still running.
So far 2 tasks. Yesterday and today.
This is so old.

Yesterday's task goes to a Linux machine now.
I just killed todays buggy task, so not assigned yet.

At least you're doing some. My 2 smartphones and 5 of my PCs don't have AVX so can't do it at all. One of my computers is my main machine and Virtualpox slows down the interface enough to make me want to punch the screen. So that just leaves one single i5-8600K. Can't be bothered, it's doing Folding. Rosetta has too many requirements.

Sometimes it makes me want to make time machine, write super virus that would delete windows 8 source code branch from microsoft and upload it in the past

Sometimes it makes me want to make time machine, write super virus that would delete windows 8 source code branch from microsoft and upload it in the past

If you make a time machine, please go back and find the real programmers that we don't have any more. The ones that could write a program in kilobytes not gigabytes. If we paired those programmers with today's computers, we would have the 1 million times speed increase we should have.

Sometimes it makes me want to make time machine, write super virus that would delete windows 8 source code branch from microsoft and upload it in the past

If you make a time machine, please go back and find the real programmers that we don't have any more. The ones that could write a program in kilobytes not gigabytes. If we paired those programmers with today's computers, we would have the 1 million times speed increase we should have.

The whole of Win DOS 6 on a few floppy disks ,
then win 95 / 98 etc on an CD , a CD held so much data
XP took up most of a DVD
Now win 10 / 11 needs a dual layer DVD
And what fling use is all that guff
OK I have a `basic` idea what it duz ,
and how many floppy`s did BASIC need to work
it `s more chance for the thing to go wrong in weird complicated ways you never had nightmares about
Will win 20 need a blue ray drive just to get the adverts on .
OK , rabbit , rabbit we can do a heck of a lot more with confuzers today , but sometimes I despair of code bloat
There is more power in a rassbery pie than NASA had to put man on the moon
Minimum system requirments for quantum computing 1TB of RAM and 50TB M20 drive {command line only} ;-)

The whole of Win DOS 6 on a few floppy disks ,
then win 95 / 98 etc on an CD , a CD held so much data
XP took up most of a DVD
Now win 10 / 11 needs a dual layer DVD
And what fling use is all that guff
OK I have a `basic` idea what it duz ,
and how many floppy`s did BASIC need to work
it `s more chance for the thing to go wrong in weird complicated ways you never had nightmares about
Will win 20 need a blue ray drive just to get the adverts on .
OK , rabbit , rabbit we can do a heck of a lot more with confuzers today , but sometimes I despair of code bloat
There is more power in a rassbery pie than NASA had to put man on the moon
Minimum system requirments for quantum computing 1TB of RAM and 50TB M20 drive {command line only} ;-)

[Philosophical mode engaged] As computers become as fast and powerful as the human brain, they will become as useless as the human brain. Maybe a very fast computer just isn't possible?

I have two rosetta python tasks runnng and three wating to run on my Intel i5, 12 GB RAM, WINDOWS 11.
tULLIO

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And here we go again...2 mins computation and boom, dead but still running.
So far 2 tasks. Yesterday and today.
This is so old.

Yesterday's task goes to a Linux machine now.
I just killed todays buggy task, so not assigned yet.

At least you're doing some. My 2 smartphones and 5 of my PCs don't have AVX so can't do it at all. One of my computers is my main machine and Virtualpox slows down the interface enough to make me want to punch the screen. So that just leaves one single i5-8600K. Can't be bothered, it's doing Folding. Rosetta has too many requirements.

I've probably spent 400 in upgrades and replacements over the last 2 years.
Had to get 2 sticks new memory to handle up to 15 pythons at one time.
I accidentally got water drops on my MOBO after trying to disassemble a custom AIO refillable custom cooler after the pump broke down. So that cooked the MOBO a bit and then I decided to upgrade the CPU to go with a new future proof MOBO. I lost money at a incompetent repair center. Bought a new cooler (PC Mag EU cooler of the year) after researching it deeply. New center rebuilt the PC with this cooler. Still using my 1050 that I bought eons ago (in computer terms) and a secondhand 1080 I got for a steal from a graphics company offloading them (from their server room). I also changed out my power supply for a digital power supply. My case was to small for the new setup so I had to get a new case.
I am now settled in with this system and the only thing i MIGHT do is upgrade the 1050 at sometime.

Now this custom setup can handle anything I throw at. Pythons and videos at the same time along with primegrid on GPU and so on. It was worth the money, that's why I am pissed off when a task locks up my system. I burn a ton of power with this thing, I don't need buggy tasks.

I don't get this....currently 29 seconds processing on 4hrs and 12 minutes run time.
CPU is at .19% Progress is .006% every 2 seconds.
Again a aam task. Some work some don't.
ABORTED
That's 3,
The other two completed ok on the wingmen.
No idea what the difference is. One was linux and the other was windows.

2022-05-16 15:41:54 (2912): VM state change detected. (old = 'running', new = 'paused')
2022-05-16 15:46:33 (2912): VM state change detected. (old = 'paused', new = 'running')
2022-05-16 15:50:03 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 15:50:06 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 15:58:24 (2912): VM state change detected. (old = 'running', new = 'paused')
2022-05-16 16:00:24 (2912): VM state change detected. (old = 'paused', new = 'running')
2022-05-16 16:02:18 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 16:02:20 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 16:02:21 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 16:12:33 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 16:12:36 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 16:12:36 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 16:16:55 (2912): VM state change detected. (old = 'running', new = 'paused')
2022-05-16 16:17:27 (2912): VM state change detected. (old = 'paused', new = 'running')
2022-05-16 16:23:14 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 16:23:15 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 16:23:15 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 16:33:22 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 16:33:25 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 16:33:25 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 16:43:32 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 16:43:35 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 16:43:35 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 16:53:45 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 16:53:47 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 16:53:47 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 17:03:56 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 17:03:59 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 17:03:59 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 17:14:08 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 17:14:10 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 17:14:11 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 17:21:17 (2912): Status Report: Elapsed Time: '6000.901087'
2022-05-16 17:21:17 (2912): Status Report: CPU Time: '13.968750'
2022-05-16 17:24:20 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 17:24:23 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 17:24:23 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 17:34:33 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 17:34:35 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 17:34:35 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 17:44:44 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 17:44:47 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 17:44:48 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 17:54:56 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 17:54:59 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 17:54:59 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 18:05:07 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 18:05:10 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 18:05:11 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 18:15:19 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 18:15:22 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 18:15:22 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 18:25:30 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 18:25:32 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 18:25:32 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 18:35:42 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 18:35:44 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 18:35:44 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 18:45:54 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 18:45:56 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 18:45:57 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 18:56:06 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 18:56:08 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 18:56:09 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 19:03:08 (2912): Status Report: Elapsed Time: '12001.707567'
2022-05-16 19:03:08 (2912): Status Report: CPU Time: '24.187500'
2022-05-16 19:06:13 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 19:06:15 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 19:06:15 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 19:14:00 (2912): VM state change detected. (old = 'running', new = 'paused')
2022-05-16 19:46:26 (2912): VM state change detected. (old = 'paused', new = 'running')
2022-05-16 19:48:42 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 19:48:44 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 19:48:44 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 19:58:58 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 19:59:01 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 19:59:02 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 20:09:01 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 20:09:03 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 20:09:03 (2912): Checkpoint completed.
2022-05-16 20:19:11 (2912): Creating new snapshot for VM.
2022-05-16 20:19:14 (2912): Deleting stale snapshot.
2022-05-16 20:19:14 (2912): Checkpoint completed.

Sometimes vm os hangs on "Spectre V2 mitigation: LFENCE not serializing. Switching to generic retpoline" during loading.
i was able to reboot vm from vbox manager and it worked.

I don't get this....currently 29 seconds processing on 4hrs and 12 minutes run time.
CPU is at .19% Progress is .006% every 2 seconds.
Again a aam task. Some work some don't.
ABORTED
That's 3,
The other two completed ok on the wingmen.
No idea what the difference is. One was linux and the other was windows.

2022-05-16 15:41:54 (2912): VM state change detected. (old = 'running', new = 'paused')
2022-05-16 15:46:33 (2912): VM state change detected. (old = 'paused', new = 'running')

[snip]

The important lines were:

2022-05-16 17:21:17 (2912): Status Report: Elapsed Time: '6000.901087'
2022-05-16 17:21:17 (2912): Status Report: CPU Time: '13.968750'

Basically, the emulated operating system encountered an error and didn't report what it was. It then started waiting for another command, but the task didn't have any, so it did almost nothing for a few hours.

Check your event log for a line similar to this one, near its beginning:

5/14/2022 11:59:47 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes f16c rdrandsyscall nx lm avx avx2 vmx smx tm2 pbe fsgsbase bmi1 hle smep bmi2

If avx and avx2 do not appear in this line for your computer, expect very few if any of the Rosetta Python task to work correctly.

If they do appear, most of them will work, but an occasional few won't. It's a known problem and the project shows very little sign of planning to fix it.

In other words, the Rosetta VM tasks aren't set up to work correctly on many of the older CPUs.

It happened once on ryzen 3 3100

I don't get this....currently 29 seconds processing on 4hrs and 12 minutes run time.
CPU is at .19% Progress is .006% every 2 seconds.
Again a aam task. Some work some don't.
ABORTED
That's 3,
The other two completed ok on the wingmen.
No idea what the difference is. One was linux and the other was windows.

2022-05-16 15:41:54 (2912): VM state change detected. (old = 'running', new = 'paused')
2022-05-16 15:46:33 (2912): VM state change detected. (old = 'paused', new = 'running')

[snip]

The important lines were:

2022-05-16 17:21:17 (2912): Status Report: Elapsed Time: '6000.901087'
2022-05-16 17:21:17 (2912): Status Report: CPU Time: '13.968750'

Basically, the emulated operating system encountered an error and didn't report what it was. It then started waiting for another command, but the task didn't have any, so it did almost nothing for a few hours.

Check your event log for a line similar to this one, near its beginning:

5/14/2022 11:59:47 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes f16c rdrandsyscall nx lm avx avx2 vmx smx tm2 pbe fsgsbase bmi1 hle smep bmi2

If avx and avx2 do not appear in this line for your computer, expect very few if any of the Rosetta Python task to work correctly.

If they do appear, most of them will work, but an occasional few won't. It's a known problem and the project shows very little sign of planning to fix it.

In other words, the Rosetta VM tasks aren't set up to work correctly on many of the older CPUs.

OLDER? Really? Ryzen 3700x here, barely 2 years old in my system.
In stderr that does not show
In the BOINC manager log at the start you get that
5/16/2022 8:41:38 AM | | Processor: 16 AuthenticAMD AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor [Family 23 Model 113 Stepping 0]
5/16/2022 8:41:38 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movebe popcnt aes f16c rdrandsyscall nx lm avx avx2 svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt tce topx page1gb rdtscp fsgsbase bmi1 smep bmi2

Project doesn't give a S--- about failures. As long as they get the data somehow from someone and if its just one task somewhere that dies...oh well.

Was just checking it was not my machine. Your explanation of the process is very interesting. Thanks

I have two rosetta python tasks runnng and three wating to run on my Intel i5, 12 GB RAM, WINDOWS 11.
tULLIO

That's a better CPU than my i5, but has less RAM. You need a tonne of RAM to run Pythons. With 16GB mine will only run 4 or 5. Which I'll leave it at because the other core or 2 can help the Intel and AMD GPUs.

I've probably spent 400 in upgrades and replacements over the last 2 years.

I keep spending almost £100 on yet another GPU. I now have 9 + possibly one more if I win the auction and can repair it.

I accidentally got water drops on my MOBO after trying to disassemble a custom AIO refillable custom cooler after the pump broke down. So that cooked the MOBO a bit and then I decided to upgrade the CPU to go with a new future proof MOBO.

A long long time ago I made my own water cooling system, well it was a put together select parts kinda thing, but I actually water cooled the PSU. A couple of mishaps - a lot of water under the northbridge. MB was fine after drying out! PSU was not fine when it got filled with water, there were lots of sparks and many components didn't recover.

I lost money at a incompetent repair center. Bought a new cooler (PC Mag EU cooler of the year) after researching it deeply. New center rebuilt the PC with this cooler.

Waiting for the incompetance mention....

Still using my 1050 that I bought eons ago (in computer terms) and a secondhand 1080 I got for a steal from a graphics company offloading them (from their server room). I also changed out my power supply for a digital power supply.

Not even sure what that means. How can electricity be digital?

My case was to small for the new setup so I had to get a new case.

Just do what I do and use a bookshelf.

Now this custom setup can handle anything I throw at. Pythons and videos at the same time along with primegrid on GPU and so on. It was worth the money, that's why I am pissed off when a task locks up my system. I burn a ton of power with this thing, I don't need buggy tasks.

I've never seen a system run VB tasks and have a usable interface, how did you do that? Nothing gets maxed out, but it just sticks for half a second every so often. I thought it was AMD being rubbish at VTX or whatever it is, but my i5 is the same.

I don't get this....currently 29 seconds processing on 4hrs and 12 minutes run time.
CPU is at .19% Progress is .006% every 2 seconds.
Again a aam task. Some work some don't.

Approximately what proportion of tasks does this happen with?

Sometimes vm os hangs on "Spectre V2 mitigation: LFENCE not serializing. Switching to generic retpoline" during loading.
i was able to reboot vm from vbox manager and it worked.

Sounds like made up words from a scifi film.