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rkv_2401 Send message Joined: 11 Dec 19 Posts: 5 Credit: 1,232,418 RAC: 0 |
Hi, yes, I would like to get it working on my i5 machine and the error I keep getting is 'VirtualBox jobs require hardware acceleration support - your processor does not support the required instruction set.' The machine in question is an i5 10400 on a GIGABYTE B460M-DS3h V2.0, 32GB RAM, 512GB nVME SSD, Windows 11 64-bit. Virtualization is enabled in the BIOS, supported by the hardware, and Windows reports it as being on too. I would be happy to run memory intensive python tasks on this machine - if they worked! |
tullio Send message Joined: 10 May 20 Posts: 63 Credit: 630,125 RAC: 0 |
I have an Intel i5 9400F, Windows 11 home edition, VBox 6.1.30 and it works perfectly on rosetta python. Tullio |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,707,224 RAC: 22,550 |
I have been trying to run Rosetta@home on 3 different computers for at least the last 3 months now - didn't get a single task no matter what I tried until yesterday, now I've finally had a 'breakthrough' on one of my PCs getting some tasks, but all of them just fail immediately!Are you sure virtualization is on? Check in the BIOS, don't believe the task manager, maybe it's talking about software virtualization. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,707,224 RAC: 22,550 |
Two of you with identical errors. That sounds like a code problem by the team not your machines.In my case loads of RAM, tried to run one at a time, nothing overloaded. If this is a programming error, can we report it somewhere? I doubt any of them are reading this. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,707,224 RAC: 22,550 |
I am getting identical times for running time and CPU time.I'm getting slightly more for CPU time than running time, I thought maybe it was multicore! E.g. 3h31m CPU time in 3h15m running time. Only seeing this in Boinctasks though, Boinc Manager doesn't seem to show CPU time. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
<-- yep. no one reads no one cares.Two of you with identical errors. That sounds like a code problem by the team not your machines.In my case loads of RAM, tried to run one at a time, nothing overloaded. If this is a programming error, can we report it somewhere? I doubt any of them are reading this. The only way they notice anything is when the results of 30+ tasks error out and skew the data then they come back for a look. But a few here and there on single machines...nah..not interested. And I have no way to look at any of your tasks on any of your machines. It's all 0's and your first machine has not made "contact" since Jan 1. Everything else is november or even may. So if they are connected to GRC, then I guess we don't see them. Which computer ID do you refer to when having problems? |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
I am getting identical times for running time and CPU time.I'm getting slightly more for CPU time than running time, I thought maybe it was multicore! E.g. 3h31m CPU time in 3h15m running time. It takes a bit to open a VM and check everything and then write everything and shut it down. Your within the limits. I see about the same. Run time 4 hours 49 min 55 sec CPU time 4 hours 38 min 16 sec Validate state Valid Credit 218.04 Device peak FLOPS 5.41 GFLOPS Application version rosetta python projects v1.03 (vbox64) windows_x86_64 Peak working set size 61.11 MB Peak swap size 58.45 MB Peak disk usage 8,745.88 MB You can find this at the top of the results page for whatever task you want to look at. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,707,224 RAC: 22,550 |
No, that didn't help.The 0x80070005 error code arises when the Windows access is denied. ... The 0x80070005 error relates to access permissions in Windows, sometimes encountered by users when they are trying to update their Windows or installing a new program, and they don't possess full access permission for certain files |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,707,224 RAC: 22,550 |
Surely there's an address we can send to, David Baker for example? And it isn't just machines here and there. Judging by how little work is done on pythons, hardly anyone is doing them. And 6 of my 7 machines failed to.<-- yep. no one reads no one cares.Two of you with identical errors. That sounds like a code problem by the team not your machines.In my case loads of RAM, tried to run one at a time, nothing overloaded. If this is a programming error, can we report it somewhere? I doubt any of them are reading this. The machine I've been referring to most recently is https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=6169682 |
tullio Send message Joined: 10 May 20 Posts: 63 Credit: 630,125 RAC: 0 |
In Atlas@home from LHC CPU time is double than running time. I allow it to run on two processors of my six. rosetta pythom is running two tasks, one on each processor. The third one is waiting for more memory of my 12 GB, the fourth one is ready to run. Tullio |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
Surely there's an address we can send to, David Baker for example? And it isn't just machines here and there. Judging by how little work is done on pythons, hardly anyone is doing them. And 6 of my 7 machines failed to.<-- yep. no one reads no one cares.Two of you with identical errors. That sounds like a code problem by the team not your machines.In my case loads of RAM, tried to run one at a time, nothing overloaded. If this is a programming error, can we report it somewhere? I doubt any of them are reading this. ------------------------------------------ Re: VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80BB0001) Postby mpack » 7. Jan 2017, 15:37 Usually it means that you are using VirtualBox on a Windows host while logged in as a different user, i.e. not the user who installed the software. To install the software you should use "Run as administrator", not log in as the administrator. Also, VirtualBox needs to install certain drivers on the host which do redirection of network and USB devices. You need to allow that to happen. This is what all that gibberish boils down to. Something is not configured right on your system. In one instance it was running and then something changed and it could not find the path anymore which lead to this 0x error. And in another you got the 0x error and this message: {The object functionality is limited} and this error: {The object is not ready} All the ones that ran have this error. It is best you try and reinstall Vbox and see if the configuration will return to normal. If it doesn't then you need to go over to their forum and ask what to do. This is not a RAH issue. This is a configuration issue on your system. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
In Atlas@home from LHC CPU time is double than running time. I allow it to run on two processors of my six. rosetta pythom is running two tasks, one on each processor. The third one is waiting for more memory of my 12 GB, the fourth one is ready to run. 15 cores with the new memory installed running this group 1 Python 3 WCG (2 pandemic 1 cancer) 1 Einstein (GPU and 1 core CPU) 1 Prime grid (GPU and 1 core CPU) 5 SiDock 1 ATLAS 1 QuChem (had to restart it after first start up) Only using 60% of my memory now 49 Gigs now installed. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,707,224 RAC: 22,550 |
Re: VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80BB0001)It's not my system. I only log on as one user, which is an admin. I reinstalled elevated to admin with no improvement. Vbox works perfectly well on LHC, this is a Rosetta screwup. I've done nothing different on the machine that works, the only major difference is the CPU type. And since hardly anyone is doing Python, this suggests many are having difficulties. |
tullio Send message Joined: 10 May 20 Posts: 63 Credit: 630,125 RAC: 0 |
I have another PC with a AMD Ryzen CPU and 24 GB RAM, but it runs mostly World Comminity Grid projects, like OpenPandemics-Covid-19, for obvious reasons, Mapping CancerMarkers and Africa Rainfall project.The project used to be managed by IBM, now by the Krembil Research Institute, Ottawa, Canada. Tullio |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 11,707,224 RAC: 22,550 |
I have another PC with a AMD Ryzen CPU and 24 GB RAM, but it runs mostly World Comminity Grid projects, like OpenPandemics-Covid-19, for obvious reasons, Mapping CancerMarkers and Africa Rainfall project.The project used to be managed by IBM, now by the Krembil Research Institute, Ottawa, Canada.Yes, mine is over there most of the time since Rosetta started playing up. I can't find any GPU (AMD) biology Boinc projects though. Covid on WCG had some for a time but not any more. |
.clair. Send message Joined: 2 Jan 07 Posts: 274 Credit: 26,399,595 RAC: 0 |
You are not alone with that error, I have some like that, many do run ok , this was another dud. Its a dedicated BOINC cruncher the only `system load` is BOINC , 48 cpu/threads 128GB memory It runs rosetta on CPU and Milkyway on GPU and nothing else It is not attached to any other projects and never has been It was a friends workstation , he died a few years ago, he was a marine biologist , I got given the computer for helping clear his house witch is why it is named `Kaminski` after him [polish name] with the intention to run boinc on it till it stops working |
Michael E.@ team Carl Sagan Send message Joined: 5 Apr 08 Posts: 16 Credit: 1,927,975 RAC: 681 |
How are prospective new users gonna find this stuff out? Thank you Jim1348! Well said. I strongly suggest that Admins/project owners add the link to the apps page https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/apps.php that you kindly provided after a phrase like: The Rosetta@home subprojects are described here: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/apps.php Now, how do I prevent Python tasks that get sent to me and only send me Rosetta tasks? That is all I have received recently on my main desktop system. One Python task ran for 3 days and others hit various resource issues. The messages related to resource issues (such as waiting for memory) are not very helpful, but maybe that is a BOINC issue? I am running BOINC 7.16.20 and VBox 6.1 on my Windows 10 PC. On the other Windows systems where VBox is NOT installed, I do not get any ROSETTA@Home tasks at all because VBox is not installed. I get a message on those PCs that VBox is not installed (well, duh). That does not happen with Ralph@Home. The only option in Rosetta@home Preferences seems to be the run-time length. I will try to set it to 1 day instead of 8 hours and see if that helps. I won't uninstall BOINC on my PC as I have lots of BOINC projects. |
Falconet Send message Joined: 9 Mar 09 Posts: 353 Credit: 1,214,732 RAC: 5,322 |
To stop receiving the Pythons, go to your computer list on your Rosetta account page ( or copy-paste this link https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/hosts_user.php ), click on details and click Skip where it says VirtualBox VM jobs. The reason your other computers aren't receiving standard Rosetta jobs isn't because you haven't installed VirtualBox on them but rather because there simply isn't any work available right now. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
I have another PC with a AMD Ryzen CPU and 24 GB RAM, but it runs mostly World Comminity Grid projects, like OpenPandemics-Covid-19, for obvious reasons, Mapping CancerMarkers and Africa Rainfall project.The project used to be managed by IBM, now by the Krembil Research Institute, Ottawa, Canada.Yes, mine is over there most of the time since Rosetta started playing up. I can't find any GPU (AMD) biology Boinc projects though. Covid on WCG had some for a time but not any more. Non BOINC GPU protein is at FAH Another BOINC you can try is QuChemPediA and SiDock if your not already there. |
Greg_BE Send message Joined: 30 May 06 Posts: 5691 Credit: 5,859,226 RAC: 0 |
.clair. and Peter, I can't do anything more for you. RAH team will do nothing to help you. So I suggest you go over to Vbox forum and post your error messages and questions there. They might know what's going on since it is their software. If it not in their software then its a batch of tasks that don't like your computers. I have not had any errors that I know of in the last 48 hrs and I run 5 CPU and 2 GPU projects on 16 cores. |
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