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Message 103283 - Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 19:43:01 UTC - in response to Message 103270.  

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There is NOTHING on my end restricting RAH from doing anything.
Yet all it wants is 4.2
So what the %$#&%& is wrong with RAH?

You might check how much of your computer's memory BOINC is allowed to use. The python tasks reserve almost 8 GB of memory, even if they don't actually use it.


Memory is set for 100%
11/14/2021 4:04:59 PM | | max memory usage when active: 24501.59 MB
11/14/2021 4:04:59 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 24501.59 MB

Currently with no Atlas I am using only 7.6GB of that sum.
And being there is no way that I am aware of to block 4.2 tasks in app_config and no way to tell RAH that for python use only X amount of RAM or X number of cores, I am trapped with no tasks.

One more thing to check:

Are you using a version of VirtualBox recent enough to support vbox64? Some of the older versions supported only vbox, and therefore could handle only 32-bit programs.
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Message 103284 - Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 21:21:47 UTC - in response to Message 103283.  

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There is NOTHING on my end restricting RAH from doing anything.
Yet all it wants is 4.2
So what the %$#&%& is wrong with RAH?

You might check how much of your computer's memory BOINC is allowed to use. The python tasks reserve almost 8 GB of memory, even if they don't actually use it.


Memory is set for 100%
11/14/2021 4:04:59 PM | | max memory usage when active: 24501.59 MB
11/14/2021 4:04:59 PM | | max memory usage when idle: 24501.59 MB

Currently with no Atlas I am using only 7.6GB of that sum.
And being there is no way that I am aware of to block 4.2 tasks in app_config and no way to tell RAH that for python use only X amount of RAM or X number of cores, I am trapped with no tasks.

One more thing to check:

Are you using a version of VirtualBox recent enough to support vbox64? Some of the older versions supported only vbox, and therefore could handle only 32-bit programs.


latest Vbox installed. always keep current.
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Message 103285 - Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 21:22:46 UTC - in response to Message 103282.  

There is NOTHING on my end restricting RAH from doing anything.
Yet all it wants is 4.2
So what the %$#&%& is wrong with RAH?

Your post crossed over while I was typing.
Maybe your problems are as bad as mine after all.
My experience isn't any better. I wish I knew how to remove Vbox so I could be in as bad a state as you.
Welcome to the new normal.


Sid it's easy to remove Vbox. Just the same as you remove any other program. Right click the start menu icon of Vbox and remove it. I use Revo uninstaller because it has the option to scan for registry remnants and delete them. I use Wise365 to clean up everything else that may have been missed by Revo.
Then I know the system is totally clean.

I appreciate the help. I'll come back to your messages and look more closely when I return to that PC.
I didn't mention I also put it it on a 2nd PC too before I realised all the issues I had, because I didn't want to look like I was even more of an idiot than I am.
Well, I am... <sigh>



Your human and its the weekend.
No problem.
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Message 103286 - Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 21:24:35 UTC - in response to Message 103281.  

Postponed: VM environment needed to be cleaned up

This means your virtual box program has a bunch of dead tasks in it and you need to open it up and go to each red icon task and right click and select remove virtual machine or some wording to that effect.
Then you confirm delete and it goes away.
You can actually hold the shift button down and click on each red icon machine and then right click and remove and confirm. They should all go away.

Then your VM environment is clean. It is probably the remnants of all the tasks you aborted.
Since I haven't run python in a long time I am not sure what is going on.
The other guys can help you with that.

Thanks. If I ever find the folder where they reside I'll try it.
No clue where that would be though.



It's not the folder that you look for on the drive. What you do is go to your start menu and look through your list of programs. Find in 'O' Oracle. Open that. Then find the Virtual box and click that. When the program opens you will see what I am talking about.
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Message 103287 - Posted: 14 Nov 2021, 21:26:58 UTC - in response to Message 103279.  

I give up. USELESS! And as usual no one from the project cares to read anything here.
I have been with RAH for a long time, its a shame they have resorted to leaving everyone in the dark now and no responding to PM or anything. Again USELESS.

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I hope that ALL these problems with virtual wus will, despite all, help to boost scientific research of the project.
But it's clear that they have a LOT of problems to interface with volunteers



I already ragged ADMIN in a PM. Read him a polite riot act.
Told him they should come look at the forum more often.
Told him it seems they just leave us to figure it out on our own and if we don't oh well.
That they are to busy with the AI Neural net to be bothered with classic computers.
All those fancy logos mean nothing to us. That's just where they get money for their fancy play toys at the lab.
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Message 103291 - Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 2:02:53 UTC - in response to Message 103287.  

I shut down R@H on all my computers and have switched to covid research on World Community Grid. Absolutely no problems keeping all threads busy doing constructive work. Much better environment.
Mike C
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Message 103292 - Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 4:40:14 UTC - in response to Message 103291.  

I shut down R@H on all my computers and have switched to covid research on World Community Grid. Absolutely no problems keeping all threads busy doing constructive work. Much better environment.
Mike C


Goodbye!

Currently, all of my computers are fully occupied doing Covid or cancer research on WCG, SI-Dock or TN-Grid or climate research on CPDN. When Rosetta has work again it will take it’s fair share of the cores available - it was the same when TN-Grid stopped supplying work and when SI-Dock stopped supplying work and when I cocked up my settings and couldn’t get CPDN work.

No need to throw a paddy and walk away - just accept that no-one’s perfect and let the world keep turning.
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Message 103293 - Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 7:15:15 UTC

4 Erros in a row:

For example: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=1293449083
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Message 103294 - Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 7:18:14 UTC

You need to fix this guys, every rosetta python project task is failing. Every single one.
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Message 103295 - Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 7:41:30 UTC - in response to Message 103294.  

You need to fix this guys, every rosetta python project task is failing. Every single one.
The problem is with your system, or it's installation of VirtualBox, as VirtualBox isn't able to setup any Virtual Machines.

VBoxManage.exe: error: AMD-V is disabled in the BIOS (or by the host OS) (VERR_SVM_DISABLED)

Go in to your System's BIOS & in the CPU settings or Advanced CPU settings make sure SVM Mode (Secure Virtual Machine Mode), or similar, is enabled. Save and re-boot.

If it still fails to run then i would suggest re-setting the project. That will make it clear out all of the existing project files & re-download them.
If it still gives VirtualBox errors, i would exit BOINC, re-download & reinstall the current version with Vbox support.
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Message 103296 - Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 7:54:48 UTC - in response to Message 103291.  

I shut down R@H on all my computers and have switched to covid research on World Community Grid. Absolutely no problems keeping all threads busy doing constructive work. Much better environment.
Mike C



I run WCG as well as SiDock
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Message 103297 - Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 8:06:23 UTC - in response to Message 103294.  
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You need to fix this guys, every rosetta python project task is failing. Every single one.



Yep, that's an error on their end: VBoxManage.exe: error: Could not find a registered machine named 'boinc_710fe83ccec1d268'
VBoxManage.exe: error: Details: code VBOX_E_OBJECT_NOT_FOUND (0x80bb0001), component VirtualBoxWrap, interface IVirtualBox, callee IUnknown
VBoxManage.exe: error: Context: "FindMachine(Bstr(VMNameOrUuid).raw(), machine.asOutParam())" at line 2621 of file VBoxManageInfo.cpp


https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=1449550865

If that keeps up, then abort all the rest and put the project on no new tasks for 24-48 hrs and try again.

Typical of RAH group
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Message 103298 - Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 8:32:27 UTC - in response to Message 103287.  
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All those fancy logos mean nothing to us. That's just where they get money for their fancy play toys at the lab.


I understand you're frustrated....


P.S.
I'm italian, so i don't understand "fancy logos"...
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Message 103299 - Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 9:03:25 UTC - in response to Message 103292.  
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Currently, all of my computers are fully occupied doing Covid or cancer research on WCG, SI-Dock or TN-Grid or climate research on CPDN. When Rosetta has work again it will take it’s fair share of the cores available - it was the same when TN-Grid stopped supplying work and when SI-Dock stopped supplying work and when I cocked up my settings and couldn’t get CPDN work.


After some tests, i've found that i can run 1 VM Rosetta wu + 10 "standard" Sidock wus without priority problems.
Other projects stop Rosetta VM and run only their wus
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Message 103300 - Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 11:30:50 UTC - in response to Message 103299.  


Currently, all of my computers are fully occupied doing Covid or cancer research on WCG, SI-Dock or TN-Grid or climate research on CPDN. When Rosetta has work again it will take it’s fair share of the cores available - it was the same when TN-Grid stopped supplying work and when SI-Dock stopped supplying work and when I cocked up my settings and couldn’t get CPDN work.


After some tests, i've found that i can run 1 VM Rosetta wu + 10 "standard" Sidock wus without priority problems.
Other projects stop Rosetta VM and run only their wus


I do not have VM loaded on my machines so they don’t even try to run RPP - they’re busy enough without me running the hoops required and they don’t have sufficient memory to run RPP successfully.
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Message 103301 - Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 12:58:36 UTC

The hard disk space and RAM required are also too large. My computer has only 8G of RAM in total, and R@h need 7629.39 MB of RAM, I can only say goodbye to it.Is a four-year trip only going to end here?
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Message 103302 - Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 13:06:31 UTC - in response to Message 103301.  

The hard disk space and RAM required are also too large. My computer has only 8G of RAM in total, and R@h need 7629.39 MB of RAM, I can only say goodbye to it.Is a four-year trip only going to end here?


Have faith, normal Rosetta tasks will return in a blaze of glory and crunchers will once again put their CPUs to the grindstone and contribute :-)
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Message 103303 - Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 16:37:58 UTC - in response to Message 103302.  

Like right now.........
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Message 103304 - Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 18:12:53 UTC - in response to Message 103303.  

Like right now.........


Thanks for the heads up, off to download some now.
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Message 103305 - Posted: 15 Nov 2021, 18:34:33 UTC - in response to Message 103304.  

Like right now.........

Thanks for the heads up, off to download some now.

Beat me to it. I just did a random update and 16 Rosetta 4.20 tasks came down

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