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Garry Heather Send message Joined: 23 Nov 20 Posts: 10 Credit: 362,743 RAC: 0 |
This is true, but lets have some context here. I just wanted my single Pi to be kept busy because the cost in leaving it on 24/7 is not insignificant to me. There are some people here with multiple monsters processing work units. My solitary Pi was never going to make a dent on their requirements so please do not think badly of me for trying to cache enough to to keep it busy for a couple of days. I will complete the units currently being processed but suspect that this project is not for me. I have aborted my cached units back into the pool. |
Brian Nixon Send message Joined: 12 Apr 20 Posts: 293 Credit: 8,432,366 RAC: 0 |
Nobody was asking or expecting you to abort the jobs – but what’s done is done, and cannot be undone. It makes no difference to the project who runs them, so please don’t be dissuaded from participating. The ones that weren’t resends are already out to other hosts. My machines are out of Rosetta work primarily because of the way I chose to set them up, and I’m too lazy to go round and change them all just to work around a bug in the work unit configuration. It’s arguably better that machines capable of running the ‘big’ tasks don’t pick up the ‘small’ ones, so that less-powerful machines do have a chance to run something. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 12,028 |
Are you one of those pricks who said "made you look" in the school playground as a kid? If so, how's the broken nose? |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 12,028 |
Duplicate post deleted.You'd think there'd be a delete button. Who designs these things? |
robertmiles Send message Joined: 16 Jun 08 Posts: 1233 Credit: 14,338,560 RAC: 2,456 |
Duplicate post deleted.You'd think there'd be a delete button. Who designs these things? There's a workaround. If you use the same way to mark it as a duplicate every time, the software will see it as multiple identical posts, and delete all but one of them. |
mrhastyrib Send message Joined: 18 Feb 21 Posts: 90 Credit: 2,541,890 RAC: 0 |
should I set up any firewall rules?Assuming it’s the same as on Windows: Those ports seem to be open by default so I guess that I'm okay. Thanks for your reply. |
mrhastyrib Send message Joined: 18 Feb 21 Posts: 90 Credit: 2,541,890 RAC: 0 |
I have seen several periods of downtime where work units have not been deployed for days at a time. This kind of reminds me of the hoarding that takes place here (even prior to the pandemic). There's a supply problem, which leads to hoarding, which makes it worse. Kind of remarkable that we have too much unused CPU time to go around. |
mrhastyrib Send message Joined: 18 Feb 21 Posts: 90 Credit: 2,541,890 RAC: 0 |
Woah, dude, where did that come from? Over the use of an "at" symbol? If you get spun up that hard, that fast over what I write, maybe the better solution is to stop reading my posts, okay? |
mrhastyrib Send message Joined: 18 Feb 21 Posts: 90 Credit: 2,541,890 RAC: 0 |
Don't take it personally. There's a three roll limit on toilet paper here because of some hoarders (not you). That's the rule. But best practice for the community at large is for folks to take less, if they can. If everybody does it, then there is more likely to be a ready supply available, including for you. It's something worth repeating, just so everyone is aware of it. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1725 Credit: 18,378,164 RAC: 20,578 |
A few days in and the impact of the mis-configured Work Units is becoming clearer. Looks like the amount of work being done has dropped by almost a third, and isn't showing any signs of recovering.In the past it has taken several days for In progress numbers to get back to their pre-work shortage numbers. And that's with out running out of work again only a few hours after new work started coming through (which occurred this time).Say hello to two less hosts after they finish their current tasks, @Rosetta. I don't know if I have the time that's required to provide the space that is needed.You’re not alone. Look at the recent results graphs – ‘tasks in progress’ has dropped by around 200,000 (a third)… For all of the latest & greatest systems there are, there are an awful lot more older much more resource limited systems. Grant Darwin NT |
mrhastyrib Send message Joined: 18 Feb 21 Posts: 90 Credit: 2,541,890 RAC: 0 |
Looks like the profile of a dead body lying in a shallow grave. How metaphorical. |
mikey Send message Joined: 5 Jan 06 Posts: 1895 Credit: 9,214,047 RAC: 1,768 |
A few days in and the impact of the mis-configured Work Units is becoming clearer. Looks like the amount of work being done has dropped by almost a third, and isn't showing any signs of recovering.In the past it has taken several days for In progress numbers to get back to their pre-work shortage numbers. And that's with out running out of work again only a few hours after new work started coming through (which occurred this time).Say hello to two less hosts after they finish their current tasks, @Rosetta. I don't know if I have the time that's required to provide the space that is needed.You’re not alone. Look at the recent results graphs – ‘tasks in progress’ has dropped by around 200,000 (a third)… Just means more work for the rest of us!! |
jsm Send message Joined: 4 Apr 20 Posts: 3 Credit: 77,825,233 RAC: 32,838 |
Bandwidth usage massively increased in March I migrated to Rosetta from Seti almost exactly one year ago. For eleven months there was little impact on my capped 50gb bandwidth allowance but in March the usage has more than doubled. I am using the same 6 computers and the same preferences so nothing on my side has changed. When my ISP notified me of the sudden cap half way through March I installed wireshark after a difficult setup to capture packets at the router rather than at specific computers. Imagine my horror when I found that the culprit was rosetta using over 1gb per 6 hours. This is unsustainable and I will either have to shell out for an expensive unlimited contract (because I have an Ultima connection at over 100mbps) or cut back on Rosetta work. Has there been a significant project change which could be the cause of this increased usage or am I looking for another problem? Any suggestions most welcome. I have clawed my way to league position 599 and would like to break 500 if possible. Capt |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 12,028 |
Shouldn't it have already done that when the 2nd genuine one was posted?Duplicate post deleted.You'd think there'd be a delete button. Who designs these things? |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 12,028 |
Same happens in real life with toilet paper because of the plandemic. Some people are selfish idiots.I have seen several periods of downtime where work units have not been deployed for days at a time. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 12,028 |
No, because you did an "I know you are" variant saying I'd used @ when telling you not to use @. Do people seriously say "dude"? Anyway "prick" is a compliment, it means you have a big appendage. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 12,028 |
That limit doesn't work, you just buy from more shops at once. Not that I do that with toilet paper, but I do a similar thing to buy more paracetamol (painkiller) than you're "allowed" by the government. |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 12,028 |
That means nothing. For example I might (manually or Boinc did it) download a load of work from another project when this one runs out. Now that has to be completed before it will get work from Rosetta again.A few days in and the impact of the mis-configured Work Units is becoming clearer. Looks like the amount of work being done has dropped by almost a third, and isn't showing any signs of recovering.In the past it has taken several days for In progress numbers to get back to their pre-work shortage numbers. And that's with out running out of work again only a few hours after new work started coming through (which occurred this time).Say hello to two less hosts after they finish their current tasks, @Rosetta. I don't know if I have the time that's required to provide the space that is needed.You’re not alone. Look at the recent results graphs – ‘tasks in progress’ has dropped by around 200,000 (a third)… |
Bryn Mawr Send message Joined: 26 Dec 18 Posts: 398 Credit: 12,294,748 RAC: 7,588 |
This problem with tasks erroring out with computation error is now getting serious. Up until now my attitude has been “it’s only a few seconds a task, no sweat” but because I’m running a very small cache with multiple projects it runs Rosetta on a one out, one in basis so it gets one, errors it and then has to wait ages before it uploads the result and asks for another. Now it’s gone to the next level because my last n tasks have all errored it is extending the back off period to many hours before it will allow another request and I’m almost to the point where Rosetta is no longer running on my main machine. Does the panel know (a) how long these errors will continue (b) how many good tasks I need to return to get back into Rosetta’s good books? |
Mr P Hucker Send message Joined: 12 Aug 06 Posts: 1600 Credit: 12,116,986 RAC: 12,028 |
This problem with tasks erroring out with computation error is now getting serious. I do the same as you with a small buffer, but all that happens is Boinc builds up a Rosetta debt, and you'll end up doing more of them when they fix it. |
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