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Message 100852 - Posted: 28 Mar 2021, 0:44:57 UTC - in response to Message 100850.  

Suggest checking out Foldit.

https://fold.it/portal/
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Message 100859 - Posted: 28 Mar 2021, 23:20:10 UTC - in response to Message 100851.  


The new trRosetta should be even better.


I will check it out.

Suggest checking out Foldit.

https://fold.it/portal/


I love that game too much. I was actually leading one of the beginner puzzles as of Friday.

Unfortunately, it won't run on my box at home and I have no idea why.

We are under lockdown here in Manila until the end of holy week, so maybe no more FoldIt for me until then.
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Message 100860 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 5:26:35 UTC

Something i haven't seen in a long, long time- all my running Tasks are using over 1GB of RAM each.
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Message 100862 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 8:27:09 UTC - in response to Message 100860.  

Mine are almost 1 GB. But memory will be freed up soon. They are out of work.
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Message 100866 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 16:58:37 UTC - in response to Message 100784.  

wall time


I just wanted you to know that this is now become a treasured part of my vocabulary.

ME: blah blah blah in wall time.

COLLEAGUE: What's wall time?

ME: Oh (chuckles genially) just a term from this protein folding project that I'm involved with online.

COLLEAGUE: Do you get paid for that?
I guess it's to do with the computer being plugged into the wall, but I'm sure there must be a more descriptive term to use instead. In a game I play, they have "game time" and "real life time".
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Message 100868 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 17:50:25 UTC

No tasks have been coming down all day - surprised no-one's mentioned it

As of 29 Mar 2021, 15:00:18 UTC [ Scheduler running ]
Total queued jobs: 0
In progress: 431,138
Successes last 24h: 457,180

Remote daemon status as of 29 Mar 2021, 17:09:58 UTC
Application Unsent In progress
Rosetta 0 392963

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Message 100869 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 18:05:25 UTC - in response to Message 100868.  

No tasks have been coming down all day - surprised no-one's mentioned it

As of 29 Mar 2021, 15:00:18 UTC [ Scheduler running ]
Total queued jobs: 0
In progress: 431,138
Successes last 24h: 457,180

Remote daemon status as of 29 Mar 2021, 17:09:58 UTC
Application Unsent In progress
Rosetta 0 392963
Here we go again. They come when they come. It's not broken, there's just nothing to do right now. No need to panic. Albatross!
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Message 100870 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 18:06:41 UTC - in response to Message 100866.  
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I guess it's to do with the computer being plugged into the wall, but I'm sure there must be a more descriptive term to use instead.
More related to the quantity measured by a clock on the wall – in other words, one recording the passage of time in the conventional sense, and/or one independent of the computer performing the task being timed. Wikipedia calls it elapsed real time. It’s common jargon in simulation and software timing – though of course not everybody here works in those fields…
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Message 100871 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 18:14:02 UTC - in response to Message 100870.  

I guess it's to do with the computer being plugged into the wall, but I'm sure there must be a more descriptive term to use instead.
More related to the quantity measured by a clock on the wall – in other words, one recording the passage of time in the conventional sense, and/or one independent of the computer performing the task being timed. Wikipedia calls it elapsed real time. It’s common jargon in simulation and software timing – though of course not everybody here works in those fields…
Doesn't work if you use a wristwatch and don't have a wall clock. Although I have 5 wall clocks in my house and never thought of that.

I wonder, will "bogeys at your 2 o'clock position" ever fade out due to the use of digital clocks? Or will we always have analogue ones?
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Message 100873 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 18:46:44 UTC - in response to Message 100871.  

Doesn't work if you use a wristwatch
What’s a wristwatch, Grandad? ;-⁠)


will "bogeys at your 2 o'clock position" ever fade out due to the use of digital clocks? Or will we always have analogue ones?
Maybe more due to the removal of humans from air combat. Having simpler mechanisms, analogue clocks might make a comeback after the apocalypse…
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Message 100874 - Posted: 29 Mar 2021, 22:11:27 UTC - in response to Message 100868.  

No tasks have been coming down all day - surprised no-one's mentioned it

I noticed it early this morning.
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=6893&postid=100862#100862

But I have been watching the "Total queued jobs:" go down for several days.
Once it gets to less than a million, I consider it a warning that they are not topping it off, and I start moving to other projects.

Not to beat a dead horse, but we could plan better if they were to tell us something.
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Message 100875 - Posted: 30 Mar 2021, 5:17:15 UTC - in response to Message 100874.  

Once it gets to less than a million, I consider it a warning that they are not topping it off, and I start moving to other projects.

Not to beat a dead horse, but we could plan better if they were to tell us something.
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Just set your resource share preferences and let it do it's thing. If one project runs out of work, other projects will get more processing time. When the other project comes back up, it will get more time compared to the other projects until things have balanced out again.


For those of us just doing Rosetta, it's a chance to reduce our power bill, but it would be nice if the Project admins would let us know when we're likely to see new work.
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Message 100876 - Posted: 30 Mar 2021, 7:14:27 UTC - in response to Message 100875.  

I believe lots of the work comes through the Robetta server so it comes from outside the Bakerlab. I wouldn't have thought they will know what work is coming through that until it arrives.
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Message 100877 - Posted: 30 Mar 2021, 7:20:54 UTC - in response to Message 100876.  

I believe lots of the work comes through the Robetta server so it comes from outside the Bakerlab. I wouldn't have thought they will know what work is coming through that until it arrives.
That work is only a small percentage of the work that is usually available.
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Message 100878 - Posted: 30 Mar 2021, 7:56:22 UTC
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I am using a 4GB Pi 4 purely for Rosetta and have today started getting error messages relating to insufficient memory. It's been working fine up until today if I exclude it running out of work units overnight.

Message from server: Rosetta needs 6675.72MB RAM but only 3653.61MB is available for use.


I am aware that there appears to a lull of new work units but the sudden appearance of additional memory demands is of greater interest. I hope this is not going to render the smaller boxes such as the Pi's obsolete.
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Message 100879 - Posted: 30 Mar 2021, 8:29:37 UTC
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Homepage says 65,000 tasks are available and I just got lots of tasks on my AMD Ryzen 5 2500U laptop.
None were Robetta tasks. Some resends but also some new ones.
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Message 100880 - Posted: 30 Mar 2021, 8:48:34 UTC - in response to Message 100878.  

I am using a 4GB Pi 4 purely for Rosetta and have today started getting error messages relating to insufficient memory. It's been working fine up until today if I exclude it running out of work units overnight.

Message from server: Rosetta needs 6675.72MB RAM but only 3653.61MB is available for use.
I am aware that there appears to a lull of new work units but the sudden appearance of additional memory demands is of greater interest. I hope this is not going to render the smaller boxes such as the Pi's obsolete.
The current new Tasks i've got running (3cl_9mr_FG...) are using very little RAM, less than 300MB each.
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Message 100881 - Posted: 30 Mar 2021, 8:52:29 UTC - in response to Message 100880.  

My Pi has collected one unit (I would have expected about 8) within the past 20 minutes but the error concerning memory remains.
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Message 100882 - Posted: 30 Mar 2021, 9:07:25 UTC

OK, my Pi knows I am talking about it and has subsequently acquired more work units.

The error message relating to insufficient memory persists however, so I have referred this to Balena in case it is an update with their client that has introduced it.
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Message 100883 - Posted: 30 Mar 2021, 9:13:36 UTC - in response to Message 100878.  

sudden appearance of additional memory demands
Not just memory: I’m now seeing
Rosetta needs 5472.67MB more disk space
(on an admittedly very small partition set aside for the BOINC data directory, but it’s been fine for the last year) – so it looks like the new batch is unusually resource-hungry…
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