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Message 73246 - Posted: 7 Jun 2012, 1:52:51 UTC - in response to Message 73242.  
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I'm not sure if this can be any help. But, after my original post I looked in the computing preferences menu and I found that the last category, the one that says "Use at most __% of cpu time" was at 50%. So I reset everything to the default settings. Now it's at 100%, and since then not one work unit has failed. Maybe it's just a coincidence. Anyway I thought I would share.

I think I reduced this CPU-time setting at one time, thinking it wouldn't fully utilise the core, but when I started using a Boinc sidebar app it was telling me what it really did was run each core at 100%, then 0%, then 100% etc in a proportion that matched whatever %age I put in there. There was never a 50% or whatever level. So in trying to ease the strain on the processor I was actually sending it crazy!

This was actually a long time ago on a very old Boinc Manager version, but maybe this was your problem too? Who knows? But if resetting it to 100% works for you, that's great. Let's chalk it down as a win ;)

PS: I notice you have a Quad-core machine but use just a 1-hour run-time - presumably because you weren't confident of completing a task before it crashed out. If that's the case and you're happy now, revert to at least the default runtime (3-hours) to reduce the bandwidth you use and ease the load on the Rosetta-servers too
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Message 73247 - Posted: 7 Jun 2012, 7:22:50 UTC

I have had on-going and latest seven errors in a row with roseta. How can this time wasting be reduced?

Running win7-64, Service Pack 1, 4gb Mem, intel

06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | No config file found - using defaults
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | Starting BOINC client version 7.0.25 for windows_x86_64
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | Libraries: libcurl/7.21.6 OpenSSL/1.0.0d zlib/1.2.5
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | Data directory: C:ProgramDataBOINC
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | Running under account DAD
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz [Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 7]
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | Processor: 2.00 MB cache
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 syscall nx lm tm2 pbe
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Home Premium x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | Memory: 4.00 GB physical, 8.00 GB virtual
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | Disk: 298.09 GB total, 148.08 GB free
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | Local time is UTC +8 hours
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 9800 GT (driver version 301.42, CUDA version 4.20, compute capability 1.1, 1024MB, 969MB available, 462 GFLOPS peak)
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce 9800 GT (driver version 301.42, device version OpenCL 1.0 CUDA, 1024MB, 969MB available)
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | SETI@home | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | rosetta@home | URL https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID 1236886; resource share 100
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | climateprediction.net | URL http://climateprediction.net/; Computer ID 1219063; resource share 100
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | Docking | URL http://docking.cis.udel.edu/; Computer ID 60276; resource share 100
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | Einstein@Home | URL http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID 3805140; resource share 100
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | SETI@home | URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 5305720; resource share 100
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | SETI@home | General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 04-Jun-2012 12:42:34)
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | SETI@home | Computer location: home
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | SETI@home | General prefs: no separate prefs for home; using your defaults
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | Reading preferences override file
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | Preferences:
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | max memory usage when active: 2047.53MB
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 3276.04MB
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | max disk usage: 6.00GB
06/07/2012 7:32:16 AM | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 60 %

Is there something I need to change or adjust?

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Message 73253 - Posted: 7 Jun 2012, 15:59:05 UTC

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Message 73256 - Posted: 8 Jun 2012, 3:05:43 UTC - in response to Message 73247.  

I have had on-going and latest seven errors in a row with roseta. How can this time wasting be reduced?

Which machine is this with? You aren't showing any tasks downloaded at all under the account you're posting from...
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Message 73258 - Posted: 8 Jun 2012, 11:53:42 UTC

Following workunit exitted with error immediately (zero seconds).

Rossmann2x3_abinitio_SAVE_ALL_OUT_design_f116_008_50776_354_0


Task ID 511456135
Name Rossmann2x3_abinitio_SAVE_ALL_OUT_design_f116_008_50776_354_0
Workunit 465884806
Created 8 Jun 2012 11:22:44 UTC
Sent 8 Jun 2012 11:23:22 UTC
Received 8 Jun 2012 11:27:30 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Client error
Client state Compute error
Exit status 1 (0x1)
Computer ID 1520448
Report deadline 18 Jun 2012 11:23:22 UTC
CPU time 0
stderr out

<core_client_version>6.12.43</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
process exited with code 1 (0x1, -255)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
[2012- 6- 8 20:23:44:] :: BOINC:: Initializing ... ok.
[2012- 6- 8 20:23:44:] :: BOINC :: boinc_init()
BOINC:: Setting up shared resources ... ok.
BOINC:: Setting up semaphores ... ok.
BOINC:: Updating status ... ok.
BOINC:: Registering timer callback... ok.
BOINC:: Worker initialized successfully.
Registering options..
Registered extra options.
Initializing broker options ...
Registered extra options.
Initializing core...
Initializing options.... ok
Options::initialize()
Options::adding_options()
Options::initialize() Check specs.
Options::initialize() End reached
ERROR: Option matching -relax:fastrelax_repeats not found in command line top-level context

</stderr_txt>
]]>

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Message 73259 - Posted: 8 Jun 2012, 13:35:42 UTC

Apparently I have spoke too soon. I have had 5 Computation errors in the last 6 hours.
This is the last one.

Task ID 511459663
Name Rossmann2x3_abinitio_SAVE_ALL_OUT_design_relax_f114_004_50773_49_1
Workunit 465880117
Created 8 Jun 2012 11:38:46 UTC
Sent 8 Jun 2012 11:39:01 UTC
Received 8 Jun 2012 12:06:07 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Client error
Client state Compute error
Exit status 1 (0x1)
Computer ID 1489547
Report deadline 18 Jun 2012 11:39:01 UTC
CPU time 0
stderr out
<core_client_version>7.0.25</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Incorrect function. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
[2012- 6- 8 6:39: 4:] :: BOINC:: Initializing ... ok.
[2012- 6- 8 6:39: 4:] :: BOINC :: boinc_init()
BOINC:: Setting up shared resources ... ok.
BOINC:: Setting up semaphores ... ok.
BOINC:: Updating status ... ok.
BOINC:: Registering timer callback... ok.
BOINC:: Worker initialized successfully.
Registering options..
Registered extra options.
Initializing broker options ...
Registered extra options.
Initializing core...
Initializing options.... ok
Options::initialize()
Options::adding_options()
Options::initialize() Check specs.
Options::initialize() End reached
ERROR: Option matching -relax:fastrelax_repeats not found in command line top-level context

</stderr_txt>
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Message 73260 - Posted: 8 Jun 2012, 13:50:15 UTC - in response to Message 73259.  

All these "Rossmann2x3" jobs are instantly failing for everyone it seems. I'm sure they'll fix it when they get to the lab this morning for work.
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Message 73267 - Posted: 9 Jun 2012, 21:47:46 UTC

Hi.

Some of these tasks are erring, this one twice.

Rossmann2x3_abinitio_SAVE_ALL_OUT_design_f116_007_50776_1949

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=465999156

<core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
process exited with code 1 (0x1, -255)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
[2012- 6- 9 22: 4:30:] :: BOINC:: Initializing ... ok.
[2012- 6- 9 22: 4:30:] :: BOINC :: boinc_init()
BOINC:: Setting up shared resources ... ok.
BOINC:: Setting up semaphores ... ok.
BOINC:: Updating status ... ok.
BOINC:: Registering timer callback... ok.
BOINC:: Worker initialized successfully.
Registering options..
Registered extra options.
Initializing broker options ...
Registered extra options.
Initializing core...
Initializing options.... ok
Options::initialize()
Options::adding_options()
Options::initialize() Check specs.
Options::initialize() End reached
ERROR: Option matching -relax:fastrelax_repeats not found in command line top-level context

</stderr_txt>
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Message 73271 - Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 7:05:03 UTC
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Hi.

Seems like there might be a bad batch of tasks, I've had a few of these Rossmann2x3 type finish o.k.

Rossmann2x3_abinitio_SAVE_ALL_OUT_design_f119_007_50782_165_1

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=465867819

<core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
process exited with code 1 (0x1, -255)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
[2012- 6-10 15:25:41:] :: BOINC:: Initializing ... ok.
[2012- 6-10 15:25:41:] :: BOINC :: boinc_init()
BOINC:: Setting up shared resources ... ok.
BOINC:: Setting up semaphores ... ok.
BOINC:: Updating status ... ok.
BOINC:: Registering timer callback... ok.
BOINC:: Worker initialized successfully.
Registering options..
Registered extra options.
Initializing broker options ...
Registered extra options.
Initializing core...
Initializing options.... ok
Options::initialize()
Options::adding_options()
Options::initialize() Check specs.
Options::initialize() End reached
ERROR: Option matching -relax:fastrelax_repeats not found in command line top-level context

</stderr_txt>
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Message 73272 - Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 11:07:23 UTC

Is there something weird going on with the latest BOINC version and Rosie?
I am crunching rb_og_09 units and "elapsed" time is 6hrs+ now and "remaining" time is 5-7 hrs depending on the task. When I open a graphics window the "remaining" time is the cpu time according to the graphics window.

So what's up with all these weird time values?
I'll reboot my system and see if that changes anything, doubt that it will.
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Message 73273 - Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 14:13:52 UTC
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Task ID 511951994
Name rb_06_09_31803_62621__round2_t000__0_C1_SAVE_ALL_OUT_IGNORE_THE_REST_50843_736_0
Workunit 466256435

Unhandled Exception Detected...

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Out Of Memory (C++ Exception) (0xe06d7363) at address 0x7C812AFB

Engaging BOINC Windows Runtime Debugger...

3.2 gigs of memory is not enough???? that's some large task you got going there. better send it to Cray computer or a server farm with tons of memory.
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Message 73293 - Posted: 17 Jun 2012, 21:59:11 UTC

Hi.

Had this one error last night, same as the first rig.

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=467510749

rb_06_15_31944_62751__t000__0_D2_SAVE_ALL_OUT_IGNORE_THE_REST_51343_3715_1

<core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
process exited with code 193 (0xc1, -63)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
[2012- 6-17 19:10:45:] :: BOINC:: Initializing ... ok.
[2012- 6-17 19:10:45:] :: BOINC :: boinc_init()
BOINC:: Setting up shared resources ... ok.
BOINC:: Setting up semaphores ... ok.
BOINC:: Updating status ... ok.
BOINC:: Registering timer callback... ok.
BOINC:: Worker initialized successfully.
Registering options..
Registered extra options.
Initializing broker options ...
Registered extra options.
Initializing core...
Initializing options.... ok
Options::initialize()
Options::adding_options()
Options::initialize() Check specs.
Options::initialize() End reached
Loaded options.... ok
Processed options.... ok
Initializing random generators... ok
Initialization complete.
Setting WU description ...
Unpacking zip data: ../../projects/boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta/minirosetta_database_rev48292.zip
Unpacking WU data ...
Unpacking data: ../../projects/boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta/input_rb_06_15_31944_62751__t000__0_D2_robetta.zip
Setting database description ...
Setting up checkpointing ...
Setting up graphics native ...
BOINC:: Worker startup.
Starting watchdog...
Watchdog active.
# cpu_run_time_pref: 21600
SIGSEGV: segmentation violation
Stack trace (23 frames):
[0xa9631b7]
[0xf7749400]
[0xa145aab]
[0xa02859c]
[0x9c19ecb]
[0x969cf5d]
[0x96a3893]
[0x96a5cc6]
[0x969fa73]
[0x96aebfa]
[0x9753248]
[0x91a498e]
[0x9088aae]
[0x92cfb9a]
[0x8a0da75]
[0x940d620]
[0x941029a]
[0x958c751]
[0x95f3e75]
[0x95f16a5]
[0x80547ed]
[0xa9f3148]
[0x8048131]

Exiting...

</stderr_txt>
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Message 73297 - Posted: 18 Jun 2012, 14:10:07 UTC

Dear all,

I have started getting all tasks on two hosts running win2k/boinc 5.10.45 failing "computation couldn't start", stderr is like this:-

<core_client_version>5.10.45</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
CreateProcess() failed -
</message>
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Rosetta home page still shows Win2k as a supported OS, can anyone suggest what's gone wrong?

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Message 73299 - Posted: 19 Jun 2012, 1:14:36 UTC

"m" this sounds like an authority problem with the user you set up to run BOINC. When the BOINC Manager goes to begin a task for a project, it does a create process. Your message indicates this failed. Most likely cause it would fail is Windows security setup for the user that you run BOINC under.
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Message 73302 - Posted: 19 Jun 2012, 9:56:40 UTC - in response to Message 73299.  

"m" this sounds like an authority problem with the user you set up to run BOINC. When the BOINC Manager goes to begin a task for a project, it does a create process. Your message indicates this failed. Most likely cause it would fail is Windows security setup for the user that you run BOINC under.


Thanks Mod.Sense.

This seems to have appeared with 3.31. No problems previously (nor with other projects) so something seems to have changed.
Both hosts run BOINC as a service, I shouldn't need to change this... should I?

I have detached and re-attached to Rosetta, but the problem remains.

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Message 73309 - Posted: 20 Jun 2012, 18:54:03 UTC - in response to Message 73302.  

I have detached and re-attached to Rosetta, but the problem remains.

Try to reinstall BOINC (i.e. install it just once again with the same settings, no uninstall needed), that should usually fix any issues like that.
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Message 73312 - Posted: 20 Jun 2012, 23:37:59 UTC - in response to Message 73309.  
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I have detached and re-attached to Rosetta, but the problem remains.

Try to reinstall BOINC (i.e. install it just once again with the same settings, no uninstall needed), that should usually fix any issues like that.


OK, I'll try that although the problem affects two hosts. I've tried running the executables (for minirosetta 3.31 and for beta 5.98) "on their own" as it were, to see if any helpful error messages appeared (like missing dlls). The 5.98 is OK but the 3.31 reports "not a valid win32 application". I have also copied this file from another host running WXP, where it runs OK, to the W2K host and it still fails so it isn't a corrupted file. Maybe they haven't been compiled to run on W2K. I don't know if the admins read these posts; the "project requirements" do list Windows 2000, so it should work. This host is the one I'm trying things out on.
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Message 73313 - Posted: 21 Jun 2012, 3:16:19 UTC - in response to Message 73312.  

I have detached and re-attached to Rosetta, but the problem remains.

Try to reinstall BOINC (i.e. install it just once again with the same settings, no uninstall needed), that should usually fix any issues like that.


OK, I'll try that although the problem affects two hosts. I've tried running the executables (for minirosetta 3.31 and for beta 5.98) "on their own" as it were, to see if any helpful error messages appeared (like missing dlls). The 5.98 is OK but the 3.31 reports "not a valid win32 application". I have also copied this file from another host running WXP, where it runs OK, to the W2K host and it still fails so it isn't a corrupted file. Maybe they haven't been compiled to run on W2K. I don't know if the admins read these posts; the "project requirements" do list Windows 2000, so it should work. This host is the one I'm trying things out on.


Some programs have installation procedures that load different versions of the software depending on which operating system and which version they run under.
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Message 73319 - Posted: 21 Jun 2012, 20:53:31 UTC - in response to Message 73313.  
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I have detached and re-attached to Rosetta, but the problem remains.

Try to reinstall BOINC (i.e. install it just once again with the same settings, no uninstall needed), that should usually fix any issues like that.


OK, I'll try that although the problem affects two hosts. I've tried running the executables (for minirosetta 3.31 and for beta 5.98) "on their own" as it were, to see if any helpful error messages appeared (like missing dlls). The 5.98 is OK but the 3.31 reports "not a valid win32 application". I have also copied this file from another host running WXP, where it runs OK, to the W2K host and it still fails so it isn't a corrupted file. Maybe they haven't been compiled to run on W2K. I don't know if the admins read these posts; the "project requirements" do list Windows 2000, so it should work. This host is the one I'm trying things out on.


Some programs have installation procedures that load different versions of the software depending on which operating system and which version they run under.


That's right. BOINC has comprehensive abilities to send specific versions of applications to particular hosts depending on OS, CPU, Instruction set or whatever. Rosetta seems to send the same version to all Windows hosts.

Please, someone prove me wrong, but I think that the answer to this problem is here. If Rosetta is no longer going to support W2K, the least the developers should do is not list it in the Recommended System Requirements and make this clear so that any volunteers using it can detach and go elsewhere.

Which is what I'll do.

Both I and the helpful people who have answered my questions here have wasted a good bit of time on this.

Thanks all.
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Message 73322 - Posted: 22 Jun 2012, 12:13:46 UTC - in response to Message 73319.  
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Please, someone prove me wrong, but I think that the answer to this problem is here. If Rosetta is no longer going to support W2K, the least the developers should do is not list it in the Recommended System Requirements and make this clear so that any volunteers using it can detach and go elsewhere.

Well, only the project developers can tell you that. And if that's true, when they remove Win2000 from the list, they might want to remove "The latest version of the BOINC client is recommended.", according to other threads that's wrong as well.
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