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Message 72787 - Posted: 16 Apr 2012, 11:51:00 UTC

My home music server has been crunching for years with no attention on my part. Just noticed something went wrong on 13-APR. Everything since has been failing like this:

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=498704389

Behavior (at the "Messages" level) seems to be:
Starting ...
[error] Process creation failed:
[error] Process creation failed:
[error] Process creation failed:
[error] Process creation failed:
[error] Process creation failed:
Computation for ... finished


I tried Reset Project and a computer reboot yesterday, no help. Unfortunately I don't have time this week for a lot of forum reading. Has anyone seen/solved this one already? If so a pointer to the thread would be appreciated. If not, any suggestion for next steps ... Detach/reattach, reinstall/upgrade BOINC, etc?

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Message 72788 - Posted: 16 Apr 2012, 15:13:21 UTC

Rosetta sent out a new release. Perhaps the 13th was the first your machine saw of WUs for that release. Since the release number is part of the program name, you may need to allow the new program name enough permission to run (i.e Windows permissions), or perhaps configure an anti-virus application to allow it to run (i.e. AV configuration). Some firewalls block any downloaded program from running until you specifically allow them (i.e. Firewall configuration).
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Message 72796 - Posted: 16 Apr 2012, 20:36:56 UTC - in response to Message 72788.  

Machine is Win2K, so no per-executable permissions. I checked and didn't see anything recent in antivirus quarantine, nor did it flag anything after the project reset (which seemed to have dumped all the files, since I saw it downloading executables again). I'll check the firewall log, but all the software firewall on that old box does is rules controlling network access. So unless the new executable needs its own internet access rules (versus Boinc's standing rules), I'm not inclined to think the firewall is the issue.

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Message 72800 - Posted: 17 Apr 2012, 7:17:09 UTC - in response to Message 72796.  

Hi
I have a quite similar problem on one of my old PC. It runs Win98 SE and from last update (3,26) all Wu-s finished immediately. Previously I tried to run some other low demand projects on this device. Many has similar problems: unable to load device bla-bla. Some are able to run correctly (POEM, SIMAP, SZTAKI). I think, despite most of the projects says they are compatible with old OS-s, practically they don't. It is just a matter of time that program developers ignore old OSs in new releases.

With regards

PS: I checked lots of forums about this and no solution found except upgrade the OS.

Machine is Win2K, so no per-executable permissions. I checked and didn't see anything recent in antivirus quarantine, nor did it flag anything after the project reset (which seemed to have dumped all the files, since I saw it downloading executables again). I'll check the firewall log, but all the software firewall on that old box does is rules controlling network access. So unless the new executable needs its own internet access rules (versus Boinc's standing rules), I'm not inclined to think the firewall is the issue.

Thanks!


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Message 72807 - Posted: 17 Apr 2012, 17:18:25 UTC

If you're unwilling to spend money on a OS upgrade you could use LINUX.
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Message 72810 - Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 0:34:27 UTC

Surely Win2k should still be ok... it's a very different beast to 98SE.

If nothing else works then I would try re-installing BOINC to somewhere other than where it is now i.e. to a folder in the root of a partition/drive, with a BOINC and a BOINCData folder, using the final BOINC 6.x rather than the new 7.x until the bugs are worked out of that one...

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Message 72816 - Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 12:08:12 UTC - in response to Message 72810.  

The machine was happily working on BOINC 6.something. An upgrade to 7.0.25, another project reset, and no joy. Just watched as it took another try on the one work unit per day the project is allowing after so many failures. Same behavior, download of everything happens, then five process creation failures, and the task is finished with status of computation error. Same exit status (-185). No firewall requests or antivirus action. Nothing in the Windows event logs.

This machine isn't going to be upgraded beyond what it is licensed for (Win2K), and it still functions for its primary purposes, home file server and Squeeezebox server.

Apologizes for not being up to speed, but is there anything straightforward I can do to report this failure to developers, along the lines of emailing or posting some additional status file, or enabling some diagnostic mode? If not I guess this machine retires from Rosetta.

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Message 72817 - Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 13:21:17 UTC - in response to Message 72816.  

I think we have similar error report despite different OS.
Mine:
Exit status: -185 (0xffffffffffffff47).
stderr out
<core_client_version>5.8.16</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
CreateProcess() failed - Device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x1f)
</message>
]]>


The machine was happily working on BOINC 6.something. An upgrade to 7.0.25, another project reset, and no joy. Just watched as it took another try on the one work unit per day the project is allowing after so many failures. Same behavior, download of everything happens, then five process creation failures, and the task is finished with status of computation error. Same exit status (-185). No firewall requests or antivirus action. Nothing in the Windows event logs.

This machine isn't going to be upgraded beyond what it is licensed for (Win2K), and it still functions for its primary purposes, home file server and Squeeezebox server.

Apologizes for not being up to speed, but is there anything straightforward I can do to report this failure to developers, along the lines of emailing or posting some additional status file, or enabling some diagnostic mode? If not I guess this machine retires from Rosetta.

Thanks!

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Message 72818 - Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 14:22:48 UTC - in response to Message 72817.  

I think we have similar error report despite different OS.
Mine:
Exit status: -185 (0xffffffffffffff47).
stderr out
<core_client_version>5.8.16</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
CreateProcess() failed - Device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x1f)
</message>
]]>


The machine was happily working on BOINC 6.something. An upgrade to 7.0.25, another project reset, and no joy. Just watched as it took another try on the one work unit per day the project is allowing after so many failures. Same behavior, download of everything happens, then five process creation failures, and the task is finished with status of computation error. Same exit status (-185). No firewall requests or antivirus action. Nothing in the Windows event logs.

This machine isn't going to be upgraded beyond what it is licensed for (Win2K), and it still functions for its primary purposes, home file server and Squeeezebox server.

Apologizes for not being up to speed, but is there anything straightforward I can do to report this failure to developers, along the lines of emailing or posting some additional status file, or enabling some diagnostic mode? If not I guess this machine retires from Rosetta.

Thanks!


Does "device attached to the system" refer to a GPU? I.e. is it looking for a GPU and getting no response because there isn't one (at least not the one it's looking for)?

Does selecting 'Suspend GPU' in BOINC make a difference?
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Message 72819 - Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 16:44:02 UTC

Would setting up a config.xml with the option set not to use a GPU work?
Something like:
<options>
<no_gpu>1</no_gpu>
</options>
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Message 72865 - Posted: 23 Apr 2012, 8:11:33 UTC - in response to Message 72818.  
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I think we have similar error report despite different OS.
Mine:
Exit status: -185 (0xffffffffffffff47).
stderr out
<core_client_version>5.8.16</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
CreateProcess() failed - Device attached to the system is not functioning. (0x1f)
</message>
]]>


The machine was happily working on BOINC 6.something. An upgrade to 7.0.25, another project reset, and no joy. Just watched as it took another try on the one work unit per day the project is allowing after so many failures. Same behavior, download of everything happens, then five process creation failures, and the task is finished with status of computation error. Same exit status (-185). No firewall requests or antivirus action. Nothing in the Windows event logs.

This machine isn't going to be upgraded beyond what it is licensed for (Win2K), and it still functions for its primary purposes, home file server and Squeeezebox server.

Apologizes for not being up to speed, but is there anything straightforward I can do to report this failure to developers, along the lines of emailing or posting some additional status file, or enabling some diagnostic mode? If not I guess this machine retires from Rosetta.

Thanks!


Does "device attached to the system" refer to a GPU? I.e. is it looking for a GPU and getting no response because there isn't one (at least not the one it's looking for)?

Does selecting 'Suspend GPU' in BOINC make a difference?


Hi

Thanks for your efforts. But... In this version (<core_client_version>5.8.16</core_client_version>) I think there is no GPU option. Also in 3.24 there was the "device", in 3.26 it has "gone" immediately...
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Message 72866 - Posted: 23 Apr 2012, 8:30:35 UTC - in response to Message 72819.  

Thanks again

I suppose then I need to create a config.xml file (or cc_config), (search returned nothing)? This is not user friendly... :). By the way, "exclude GPU or no GPU" options are available from ver. 6.xx configs.

Would setting up a config.xml with the option set not to use a GPU work?
Something like:
<options>
<no_gpu>1</no_gpu>
</options>


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Message 72867 - Posted: 23 Apr 2012, 11:09:10 UTC - in response to Message 72866.  
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Thanks again

I suppose then I need to create a config.xml file (or cc_config), (search returned nothing)? This is not user friendly... :). By the way, "exclude GPU or no GPU" options are available from ver. 6.xx configs.

Would setting up a config.xml with the option set not to use a GPU work?
Something like:
<options>
<no_gpu>1</no_gpu>
</options>



The file you are looking for is a cc_config.xml file, the web page is here:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

The no gpu option is listed as:
<no_gpus>0|1</no_gpus>
If 1, don't use GPUs even if they're present. List-add.pngNew in 6.6

and you can see it has been available since version 6.6
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Message 72868 - Posted: 23 Apr 2012, 11:37:44 UTC - in response to Message 72867.  

Thanks again

I suppose then I need to create a config.xml file (or cc_config), (search returned nothing)? This is not user friendly... :). By the way, "exclude GPU or no GPU" options are available from ver. 6.xx configs.

Would setting up a config.xml with the option set not to use a GPU work?
Something like:
<options>
<no_gpu>1</no_gpu>
</options>



The file you are looking for is a cc_config.xml file, the web page is here:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

The no gpu option is listed as:
<no_gpus>0|1</no_gpus>
If 1, don't use GPUs even if they're present. List-add.pngNew in 6.6

and you can see it has been available since version 6.6


Ok, thanks again and again...
The situation is as you can see above, that I use Boinc ver. 5.XX instead of 6.XX. Why? On this garbage with Win98se, available 6.xx version unable to connect the client-localhost. Reason: the client not starting. Solution from boinc mngr (error message): go to control panel, admin tools and start the service. HAHAHA. There is no such thing in win98 control panel and there are no services in win 98, only processes as I know. As you see, the solution for a problem is suitable for higher OS...By the way during install there were sometimes error messages (start with repair.... and so on).
Install-reinstall-uninstall-repair boinc, "refresh" setup of OS has not solved the issue. There is no possibility to change or upgrade the system (corporate stuff)
Finally thanks to all. My opinion that this mess can't be solved.

your sincerely




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