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Message 59959 - Posted: 4 Mar 2009, 2:43:32 UTC

Once in awhile, I get a Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library Error? It is for minirosetta_1.54_windows_intelx86.exe. The error message reads "This application has requested the runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the applications support team for more information."

Received it for this workunit. https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=232499308

Currently Using XP service pack 2 with Boinc version 5.10.45
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Message 59961 - Posted: 4 Mar 2009, 4:14:04 UTC
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Task Id 232649967 isn't displaying graphics instead it's displaying a black window, when i move my cursor around in the black window a white block of what looks like unreadable text moves around under my cursor while my cursor is in the black window. It's a 2vik task. Task finished with a successful out come. Task ID 232649968 isn't displaying graphics instead it's displaying a black window When I try to close the black window it comes up with End Program my opinions are Emd Now or Cancel I chose End Now. Task finished with a successful out come.

I am using XP Pro SP3 fully patched and Boinc 6.4.7 on a quad 2.66 with 2.87GB Ram. I'm not sure if that will make a difference or not.
Has anybody else had any of the above issues?
Thanks for any information as to why this could be happening in advance.
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Message 59967 - Posted: 4 Mar 2009, 15:04:11 UTC
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The lockfile problem again:

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=232787694

Starting work on structure: _1NRGA_7_00029
BOINC:: Initializing ... ok.
Can't acquire lockfile - exiting
BOINC:: Initializing ... ok.
Can't acquire lockfile - exiting
BOINC:: Initializing ... ok.
Can't acquire lockfile - exiting
BOINC:: Initializing ... ok.
Can't acquire lockfile - exiting
BOINC:: Initializing ... ok.
Can't acquire lockfile - exiting

Plus many more copies of the same error messages.

I run BOINC 6.2.28 at 95% CPU with the leave in memory option, under Vista SP1. I didn't enable graphics at all for this workunit.

A wingman, apparantly with a shorter requested workunit length, completed only 9 decoys, but successfully.
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Message 59978 - Posted: 4 Mar 2009, 21:31:15 UTC

@Robert,

A wild question ... did you enable or run graphics for any task for any project?
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Message 59979 - Posted: 4 Mar 2009, 22:16:07 UTC - in response to Message 59978.  

@Robert,

A wild question ... did you enable or run graphics for any task for any project?


Hard to remember. I often go for days without using graphics on any BOINC project these days.

When I was testing graphics triggering the problem for minirosetta 1.58 over on RALPH@home, though, it seemed to be only graphics for a 1.58 workunit, not graphics for a 1.54 workunit, which triggered the problem, though, and only for the 1.58 workunit.

I probably used graphics for purposes unrelated to BOINC projects, though, which hasn't triggered such a problem for me in the past.

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Message 60004 - Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 21:50:18 UTC
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Wow, this one has a 2.15MB result file for 24hrs of crunching. 100K is more what I am used to seeing. Task name is lrfrag_0_8_hb_t308__IGNORE_THE_REST_ 1M2OB_8_7783_69_0
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Message 60077 - Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 17:14:20 UTC

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Another 0% progress Minirosetta task, on another computer. 84:25:24 time progress of a projected 10:17:32 duration. Windows XP, SP3, vintage computer. Boinc version 6.2.18.

Task is now aborted, Boinc upgraded to 6.4.7. Am I still the only one noticing this?
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Message 60078 - Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 17:26:56 UTC
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rembertw, I haven't heard any other reports. You seem to be translating the screen to English for me, and I appreciate that, but it's never entirely clear what you are referring to. On the English screen, there are three columns of interest, "CPU time", "Progress" (the percentage), and "To completion".

If I understand what you are saying is that
CPU time was 84hrs
progress was 0%
and to completion was still 10 more hours?

Is this the task you had to abort?

Now that you have aborted that one, what does the next task show for the "to ompletion" before it starts?

If the above is the correct task, it looks like the host only has 256MB of memory. And 32MB of that is likely devoted to your graphics card. The current recommendation to run Rosseta is machines with 512MB of memory or higher. (they recently increased that from 256MB when they began running more tasks that require more memory).

It looks like that machine has been having trouble earning credit for some time. I see you also do work for WCG. I've noticed that the rice project there runs in about 10MB of memory! So, perhaps that would run better on that machine.

I see you have a very large list of projects you do work for. Are all of your hosts using an account manager and dividing their resource share across all 8 projects? You also have 13 machines active, at least for Rosetta. You might want to create a seperate account, or seperate venue to seperate your P4 machines from your core 2's. And that way you could have some machines doing more work for WCG for example, and others do more for Rosetta. Based on the machine's configuration.
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Message 60090 - Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 7:03:31 UTC

Visual C++ runtime error with this task after 51,711 seconds:

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=234626846
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Message 60095 - Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 11:44:29 UTC - in response to Message 60078.  

If I understand what you are saying is that
CPU time was 84hrs
progress was 0%
and to completion was still 10 more hours?

Mod.Sense, you understood correctly. Indeed it is for me sometimes guessing how Boinc translated English into Dutch. And indeed, it was that task.

I have all my computers under Gridrepublic. It would simply take too much time to micromanage every single computer so I don't even try to. Up until now I simply assumed that projects would not give work to computers that did not have the minimum requirements so I never bothered checking every project for that. From your reply I take it that Rosetta does not do such a test.

There are indeed a list of projects that I have active, but I never run them all at the same time. Right now there are only 2 projects active with a stable feed (Rosetta, WCG), 2 projects that send Wu's when they have them (simap, LHC) and one that is only on a couple of computers, and set on NNT (orbit).

Now I set that last computer on NNT for Rosetta since it's got a limited configuration.

I realise that this does not belong here, but it would be interesting if there were a manager like Gridrepublic or BAM that looks at the connected computers, and divides the projects over the available processors. Let's say that for now I have 20 processors available, and Rosetta gets 10% resource share, then Rosetta would get 1 computer with 2 processors working only for Rosetta. All this without having me driving from location to location if I want to change settings. It would help, indeed, in available memory, available disk space and so on.

Since there is no such thing for now, I'll just go on as I'm used to: if there's a problem, then upgrade Boinc, and set Rosetta to NNT on the older computers. I can equal out a little by increasing the resource share for every computer set on NNT.
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Message 60097 - Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 14:24:19 UTC

Ran into a couple errors, both on the same machine.

I really don't know how to make heads or tails of the errors, but there is a lot of information there.

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=234977428

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=234904088

I believe it's something with the machine, since I'm not having errors on any others, and it's only been attached for about 24 hours.

I am curious if there is anything in the debug info that might point to a clue as to what is up with it.

Anyone that can provide some insight would be much appreciated.

Thanks
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Message 60099 - Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 16:03:34 UTC

A 1.54 workunit that hit the lockfile problem:

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=213726108

A wingman avoided the problem, apparantly by choosing a workunit length short enough to end it before my copy hit the problem.
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Message 60123 - Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 7:25:17 UTC - in response to Message 60078.  

Now that you have aborted that one, what does the next task show for the "to ompletion" before it starts?

I did not answer this question, but the answer would have been 10:17:32 time to completion if I accepted new tasks from Rosetta on that computer. (I do not). On other computers the time to completion values that I get vary from 9:something up to 12:something depending on the computer. Meaning that every computer has a different "time to completion" but different tasks on one computer have the same value.
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Message 60165 - Posted: 15 Mar 2009, 17:59:48 UTC

Hi folks,
I try to run Minirosetta 1.54 (Windows XP Home sp3,BOINC Manager 6.4.5, wx Wigets version 2.8.7), but my Kaspersky 2009 Interner Security (Version 8.0.0.0.506) blocks it from running and throws up a black error message. I have tried to view the report but that does not give me any information on how to rectify the problem.
The standard Rosetta program will run ok (as of 22 feb workunit). Any suggestions please ?

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Message 60166 - Posted: 15 Mar 2009, 19:15:53 UTC

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Message 60204 - Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 23:33:24 UTC - in response to Message 60166.  

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=267483


Looks like you've managed to make your queue of workunits so long you don't return them by the deadline, so other people run them and get credit for them before you do.
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Message 60205 - Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 23:34:06 UTC - in response to Message 60166.  
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Message 60228 - Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 21:52:39 UTC

Kaspersky Internet Security does not allow the launch of Rosetta Mini 1.54 program because it has a danger rating of 82 and no digital signature. Do you need to add this at your server before sending ?

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Message 60236 - Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 9:43:37 UTC

I am unable to upload 236435348
lb_alnmatrix_5700_6000_hb_t293__IGNORE_THE_REST_2as0_269_8708_3_0

The Message says that the servers may be down.

This is strange because I have just transferred and reported three other work units.
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Message 60254 - Posted: 21 Mar 2009, 13:41:36 UTC

A lockfile problem again:

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=236718529

I'm still running at 95% CPU time in order to help Ralph@home track down the lockfile problem.
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