Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : new supercomputer
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/08/science/08comp.html?_r=4&ref=science&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin that's a locked article that you have to subscribe to read i happen to have an account so that was not a problem. for those that don't have a NY Times account here is another article. http://news.cnet.com/2100-1010-6243360.html?hhTest=1&tag=nefd.top this computer is a Molecular dynamics research computer. here is a photo of the processor: http://rssblogster.com/popular_item_display.php?item_id=1909124 |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/08/science/08comp.html?_r=4&ref=science&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin i forgot you have to subscribe when i read it. sorry for any inconvenience..{it is free to subscribe though} |
The_Bad_Penguin![]() Send message Joined: 5 Jun 06 Posts: 2751 Credit: 4,271,025 RAC: 0 |
Well then, how about this ?!
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Susie HomeMaker Send message Joined: 12 Nov 06 Posts: 22 Credit: 2,511,881 RAC: 0 |
Well then, how about this ?! lol I even added a comment to that about it crunching Rosetta. ( I'm Outcast) |
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Actually, we are in the planning stages of moving our public automatic Rosetta server, Robetta, to BlueWaters. Our present "Robetta system" allows scientists anywhere to access Rosetta's methods but is brutally over-subscribed. A large number of scientists waiting for the service to return results have given up on us. This has distressed us but we just don't have the resources to fill the need. We have been collaborating w/ NCSA to use the cycles in some of their installed clusters to try and knock down the queue length but it has only been partially successful. So, we're going to go big-time on this and see if we can't make BlueWaters/Robetta a nearly instantaneous Rosetta service for researchers around the globe. There's LOTS and LOTS of scaling issues to be addressed but we're looking at them and applying for $$$ to hire some folks to help w/ all of this. Anyway, I thought it was interesting enough to post a bit about BlueWaters.... we'll keep you abreast of our progress along these lines.... |
tralala Send message Joined: 8 Apr 06 Posts: 376 Credit: 581,806 RAC: 0 |
Actually, we are in the planning stages of moving our public automatic Rosetta server, Robetta, to BlueWaters. Our present "Robetta system" allows scientists anywhere to access Rosetta's methods but is brutally over-subscribed. A large number of scientists waiting for the service to return results have given up on us. This has distressed us but we just don't have the resources to fill the need. We have been collaborating w/ NCSA to use the cycles in some of their installed clusters to try and knock down the queue length but it has only been partially successful. I think with some improvements on low-latency implementation one could use BOINC for this very well. Turnaround times of a few hours are easily achievable, expecially if one can choose the most relieable hosts in a big pool. I guess there are no funds for such a low-cost-approach and asking for some millions for a BlueWater-Thingie is much cooler. ;-) |
bcpeg Send message Joined: 4 Sep 08 Posts: 2 Credit: 38,273 RAC: 0 |
Well then, how about this ?! Awww man! I was all jazzed and proud of my shiny new 2.66 quad core processor with 4 gig of RAM :D |
Michael G.R. Send message Joined: 11 Nov 05 Posts: 264 Credit: 11,247,510 RAC: 0 |
CERN has recently unveiled its worldwide grid computing system to crunch the 15 PETABYTES that the LHC will spew out yearly ("Enough information to create a 21-kilometre-high stack of CDs annually."). http://michaelgr.com/2008/10/03/cern-unveils-the-worldwide-lhc-computing-grid/ Over a 100,000 CPUs.. |
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Actually, we are in the planning stages of moving our public automatic Rosetta server, Robetta, to BlueWaters. Our present "Robetta system" allows scientists anywhere to access Rosetta's methods but is brutally over-subscribed. A large number of scientists waiting for the service to return results have given up on us. This has distressed us but we just don't have the resources to fill the need. We have been collaborating w/ NCSA to use the cycles in some of their installed clusters to try and knock down the queue length but it has only been partially successful. You may want to see if you qualify for grants from any of these: http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Pages/home.aspx http://www.livestrong.org/site/c.khLXK1PxHmF/b.2661097/k.D25F/Research.htm http://www.iacoccafoundation.org/ http://cms.komen.org/komen/GrantsProgram/index.htm |
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The_Bad_Penguin![]() Send message Joined: 5 Jun 06 Posts: 2751 Credit: 4,271,025 RAC: 0 |
what ?! my crunching farm isn't listed ?! time for some more purchases of ps3's and gpu's... |
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look at this one http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/081029084044.htm http://www.cdc.gov/genomics/ what ?! my crunching farm isn't listed ?! |
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mikey![]() Send message Joined: 5 Jan 06 Posts: 1895 Credit: 8,893,974 RAC: 711 ![]() |
what ?! my crunching farm isn't listed ?! Okay let's do a purely hypothetical situation...someone wins the lottery and decides to buy a super computer. Which project would be able to keep something like that supplied with work? This one? When I look at one of my pc's on this Project I see this "Maximum daily WU quota per CPU 100/day". What if someone had a computer that could pump out well over that per day? Would ANY project provide the units to keep up? Obviously there are many, many things a super computer could be used for, but that is not the question here. Can this, or any project, use the kind of resources I am talking about and really use that many results? ![]() |
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i think as a group we only equal about 2 to 3 super computers and we could use many more...but someone that handles computers for a living should answer here........ what ?! my crunching farm isn't listed ?! |
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mikey, that "per day" limit is only the number of tasks that will be sent to machine with zero results returned. So, say you start at square one, you are allowed 100 tasks and have zero. Then download 50 tasks. Every successful task completion reported back doubles the current number of tasks you are allowed to download again, until it reaches the daily maximum again. And you'd probably want to set such a machine to run tasks for 24hours (see Rosetta preference for runtime). So, one day's limit for one CPU would keep a 100 processor supercomputer busy for a full day (when another 100 would be allowed anyway). So, not only would a supercomputer have more then one processor, and therefore a many hundreds per day limit, but the normal mix of completions will continue to bump the limit back up. In short, it would work great! Let's try it! Rosetta Moderator: Mod.Sense |
mikey![]() Send message Joined: 5 Jan 06 Posts: 1895 Credit: 8,893,974 RAC: 711 ![]() |
mikey, that "per day" limit is only the number of tasks that will be sent to machine with zero results returned. So, say you start at square one, you are allowed 100 tasks and have zero. Then download 50 tasks. Every successful task completion reported back doubles the current number of tasks you are allowed to download again, until it reaches the daily maximum again. I AM trying but the lottery is not co-operating, yet! This has always been a question of mine for a long time and I REALLY do appreciate the quick response. I am glad that this Project can handle that kind of workload. Thank you and I would love to try it soon! ![]() |
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Actually, I'm thinking of getting a supercomputer of my own. I read about supercomputers going mainstream, and found a computer that is "250 times faster than the average PC." Actually, I'd make great use for a computer like that, such as recording in high fidelity. But one of the first things I would do with it is install BOINC on it. I was surprised a supercomputer could be that small. I've always imagined them to be large bulky machines. http://nextbigfuture.com/2007/06/nvidia-tesla-supercomputer-for-1500-to.html http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,28348,24758514-5014239,00.html http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/06/21/nvidia_launches_tesla/ The Tesla supercomputers cost anywhere from $1,500 to over $60,000 depending on how powerful you want it to be. For my purposes, I wouldn't need a super- powerful computer. |
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