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Message 54308 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 17:11:40 UTC
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Just look how Space Family gets around.....

http://www.barbaruv.czeweb.cz/boinc.php
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Message 54311 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 18:26:51 UTC

I have 'joined' the Space Family Team....it will be interesting to see if my points show up at the team, showing that it is the original Teddies Team....
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Message 54312 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 19:06:37 UTC - in response to Message 54311.  

I have 'joined' the Space Family Team....it will be interesting to see if my points show up at the team, showing that it is the original Teddies Team....

You know that no miracles will happen. Your newly crunched credit will be day-by-day added to the Space Family (a.k.a. Tedies 1/2 year ago)'s total credit.

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Message 54313 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 19:13:51 UTC

BINGO...got my full 155,000 credit added...

1) MIZ 13,196 693.93 Czech Republic
2) Martin 115,572 304.44 Czech Republic
3) Gabriel 1,401 87.76 Czech Republic
4) Kenny 1,387 9.43 Czech Republic
5) Coffee.adam 169 4.09 Czech Republic
6) Daniel Stach (Hadra) 68,020 0.17 Czech Republic
7) Barbar [Founder] 2,468 0.08 Czech Republic
8) Roman 9,295 0.08 Czech Republic
9) Peter Stach 14,882 0.07 Czech Republic
10) Jenik 12,639 0.07 Czech Republic
11) Scribe 155,511 0.00 United Kingdom
12) mitsu 0 0.00 Czech Republic
13) VASE JMENO 0 0.00 None
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Message 54314 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 19:17:56 UTC
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Having shown that this is the original Teddies, is there any reason now why the admin staff cannot give me the founder position back so that I can throw out all these userpers and get the original Teddies back to re-join?

I have asked the original Teddies to rejoin the team so you can see that we are entitled to that team back please.
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Message 54315 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 19:40:11 UTC - in response to Message 54314.  

BINGO...got my full 155,000 credit added...
11) Scribe 155,511 0.00 United Kingdom

Sure! If I'd join Space Family, you wold see there something like
12) Pepo 40,107 0.00 Slovakia

Having shown that this is the original Teddies

You did not prove it by this!

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Message 54316 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 19:48:29 UTC

Yeah you could be right....but I would still like the founder back.......
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Message 54321 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 20:39:02 UTC

I've got a PM from Barbar to translate the following text:

Barbar wrote:

Hi,
I've legally taken the advantage of the posibility to ask for a founder transfer at a team, which appeared to be inactive, got the foundership and then treated it at my will. I did not forcibly break anything and even do not know, how could it be possible. I'm not able to respond on the Rosetta forum, my English is not adequate for this, so please translate my answer there for me. Sadly I'm leaving for 3 weeks long for a holiday, so I will be able to respond to the contributions with some delay.
Barbar



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Message 54322 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 20:43:15 UTC
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I've been crunching for 5 years across various projects and have never seen any one drop so low to steal a team.

Those are not his points or his team. He stole them and I want my team & our team points return to us. We earned them.
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Message 54324 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 21:03:32 UTC

The team was not totally inactive. There were a few still crunching and Barbar threw them out of the team too. Look at the link further up that Morphy posted. Barbar and his "team" have done the same thing over many BOINC projects.

This needs rectified and the hole closed.

I want to know what someone with some authority here at Rosetta has got to say about all of this and what they are going to do to sort it out ?
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Message 54327 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 22:30:19 UTC
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This is a difficult situation. The original founder did not respond to the request for a founder change within the 2 month period so what can we do that is fair for all? You may have to diplomatically request for another founder change. I personally don't think it is good for BOINC to allow a switch as what happened here, even with a long wait period, without a response but then what do you do with inactive teams? Why not just ask the team founder to switch back to Teddies and then we can see what options are available to resolve this issue.
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Message 54328 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 22:35:04 UTC
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Why can't you just leave the teams alone?

They contribute xxxxx amount for a project then just because they cease for xxxx time you completely disregard them, and their efforts.



Bloody disgraceful.

Don't deserve any support.

Addendum: This brings the whole ethos of dc and teams into disrepute and if it isn't corrected the consequences could be dire for the whole dc community.

So much for integrity, camaraderie, competition......everything goes out the window.

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Message 54329 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 22:39:07 UTC
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As I have said before. The team was not totally inactive. We had members of the Teddies still contributing and Barbar threw them off the team.

Are you saying that you want to be fair with Barbar, who is doing this all over lots of different BOINC projects ? The Teddies have never known Barber till this scam he is operating.

You need to sort this now.
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Message 54330 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 22:40:30 UTC
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Amazing... Truly amazing... You'd think of the 750 people that viewed/read this thread at least one would have been from upper management... Oh wait, There isn't any upper management here... Baker's out traveling the World, taking bows for all HIS stupendous achievements in suckering "HIS Children" into crunching here, burning THEIR resources, THEIR financial resources, etc, etc;... Simply amazing... All bow to the King!

Am I upset? Yes, On might say that...
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Message 54332 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 22:42:13 UTC - in response to Message 54327.  

This is a difficult situation. The original founder did not respond to the request for a founder change within the 2 month period so what can we do that is fair for all? You may have to diplomatically request for another founder change. I personally don't think it is good for BOINC to allow a switch as what happened here, even with a long wait period, without a response but then what do you do with inactive teams? Why not just ask the team founder to switch back to Teddies and then we can see what options are available to resolve this issue.



This was not a case of one of us wanting to take over the team in the event of an absent Capt. Someone else came in stole & claimed what they didn't earn to begin with. Certainly isn't fair to allow a thief to come in and take what they wish. Is it fair to all the teams behind Space Family in the stats? They got their position on the backside of the Teddies not through efforts of their own.
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Message 54333 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 22:47:14 UTC

I don't comprehend how someone can change the team's name and take points contributed by Teddies. Why were none of the team members advised of the team captain change?
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Message 54334 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 22:50:53 UTC
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Maybe the Admin missed Morphy's link earlier. Barbar threw ALL of the Teddies off of the team at the same time active or not. He only wanted the points from the existing members.

Here is the link again. Take another look and tell me you want to be fair to this person ?

http://www.boincsynergy.com/stats/team-movements.php?project=rah&team=559

Now get your act together and get it sorted.
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Message 54335 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 22:58:38 UTC

Pup is so angry about this his continued postings may only make matters worse.

Hope you Teddies get your team back ASAP.

I'm outta here.

ADMINS,please delete my account.....I want nothing to do with this thing.

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Message 54336 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 23:01:31 UTC
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Peter, thanks for posting this to the BOINC developer's distribution list. All BOINC projects need to be aware of the issue.
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Message 54337 - Posted: 8 Jul 2008, 23:03:54 UTC

I posted on the BOINC developers forum too earlier today.
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