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Message 51195 - Posted: 6 Feb 2008, 0:03:12 UTC

Please post any bugs regarding the new minirosetta application here.
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Message 51198 - Posted: 6 Feb 2008, 2:56:57 UTC

What is \"minirosetta\" ?
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Message 51199 - Posted: 6 Feb 2008, 3:36:53 UTC

In short, it\'s an object oriented implementation of rosetta. The current rosetta application was converted to c++ from a fortran version and is still fortran like in code. Thus, developing new protocols and experiments is quite difficult for researchers new to rosetta and also there is quite a bit of redundant code. Another problem with rosetta development is that it is often hard to debug. Minirosetta is designed to deal with these issues and should greatly expand the capabilities of rosetta and hopefully improve the science. There will be more information about minirosetta soon.
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Message 51203 - Posted: 6 Feb 2008, 20:29:38 UTC

What we can make in order to begin to use it?
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Message 51204 - Posted: 6 Feb 2008, 20:36:58 UTC

We are going to slowly ramp up minirosetta tasks since it may still contain some hidden bugs that will only show up when doing large scale runs on R@h. The tasks will mix in with the regular ones so you may or may not get one.
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Message 51206 - Posted: 6 Feb 2008, 21:13:25 UTC

how can they be recognized?
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Message 51207 - Posted: 6 Feb 2008, 22:16:40 UTC

by the application name. It starts with \"minirosetta_\".

The application name is listed in the boinc manager.
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Message 51211 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 2:39:17 UTC

Was this tested at all on Ralph?

No announcement? Just throw it out into the wild and see what breaks?
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Message 51212 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 3:44:01 UTC
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You can read all about the experience on Ralph. Including why the version here ends with .07 rather then .00
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Message 51213 - Posted: 7 Feb 2008, 3:45:41 UTC
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Yes, we\'ve been testing it on ralph for the past few weeks in small increments. All jobs that run on R@h get tested on ralph first no matter what the application is. The current version runs stable on Ralph but since R@h is a much larger project, some issues might emerge. We are going to slowly ramp up tasks making sure they run okay.
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Message 51246 - Posted: 8 Feb 2008, 20:50:44 UTC - in response to Message 51195.  

Please post any bugs regarding the new minirosetta application here.


Not sure if it is a bug of the program -- but NOD32 detects it as a virus -- declares that it is probably a variant of Win32/Statik application

Perhaps you need to communicate with the ESET/NOD32 folks about this.


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Message 51248 - Posted: 8 Feb 2008, 21:15:45 UTC

I just sent their support staff some questions about this and hope to hear from them soon. Does anyone know if this has happened with any other boinc projects?
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Message 51249 - Posted: 8 Feb 2008, 21:25:19 UTC - in response to Message 51248.  

I just sent their support staff some questions about this and hope to hear from them soon. Does anyone know if this has happened with any other boinc projects?


I\'ve been in 8 different BOINC projects -- this is the only one I\'ve seen this with -- and only with minirosetta.

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Message 51252 - Posted: 8 Feb 2008, 23:29:43 UTC - in response to Message 51249.  

I just sent their support staff some questions about this and hope to hear from them soon. Does anyone know if this has happened with any other boinc projects?


I\'ve been in 8 different BOINC projects -- this is the only one I\'ve seen this with -- and only with minirosetta.


I have 2 mini WUs in my queue. The queue is 3 days long so it will be a day or so before I hit these WUs. I will report any issues.

Paul
Thx!

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Message 51258 - Posted: 9 Feb 2008, 3:48:07 UTC

NOD 32 Antivirus is blocking the download. It says it is a virus?

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Message 51260 - Posted: 9 Feb 2008, 4:19:13 UTC

I installed the NOD32 trial version and scanned my boinc installation and the mini app seemed okay.

I didn\'t get a chance to reproduce the alert by resetting the project and running mini tasks because my laptop started to hang and become unresponsive. I had to do a system recover and will try it again, making sure I have my other virus scanner removed. Hopefully I\'ll hear back from the NOD32 support team. It\'s obviously not a virus. The application is compressed using UPX just like the standard rosetta@home application.
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Message 51262 - Posted: 9 Feb 2008, 6:44:31 UTC - in response to Message 51260.  

OK -- I figure this may well be a case of you and the ESET folks getting together on this. It isn\'t the tasks, it is the downloads. So for this to show up in your test, you will need to install NOD32, get the updates for it, then force a new download of Rosetta mini\'s.



I installed the NOD32 trial version and scanned my boinc installation and the mini app seemed okay.

I didn\'t get a chance to reproduce the alert by resetting the project and running mini tasks because my laptop started to hang and become unresponsive. I had to do a system recover and will try it again, making sure I have my other virus scanner removed. Hopefully I\'ll hear back from the NOD32 support team. It\'s obviously not a virus. The application is compressed using UPX just like the standard rosetta@home application.


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Message 51263 - Posted: 9 Feb 2008, 9:20:00 UTC - in response to Message 51213.  
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Well, if it\'s like the last few Rosetta \"releases\" that have been inflicted on the users, the testing was measured in hours, and only a handful of WUs. Not exactly exhaustive testing.

Looks like nothing but trouble.

And where is the announcement about this new app?

Yes, we\'ve been testing it on ralph for the past few weeks in small increments. All jobs that run on R@h get tested on ralph first no matter what the application is. The current version runs stable on Ralph but since R@h is a much larger project, some issues might emerge. We are going to slowly ramp up tasks making sure they run okay.

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Message 51265 - Posted: 9 Feb 2008, 10:19:23 UTC

Rosetta@Home should include a way to get around the mini application - at least until it is established that the new software works.

I joined because I want to cure people, not because I want to test software. I understand that with better software, the results might improve - however I would like to stick to the real rosetta for the time being.

So, please, include the option to work on mini rosetta or not to.
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Message 51270 - Posted: 9 Feb 2008, 14:05:58 UTC

Hi,
I am running a job of the Rosetta Mini 1.07 (file name score13_hb_envtest62_A_1acf__2833_2626_0).
The remaining time of the job is increasing in stead of decreasing, although the used processor time is increasing.

Regards,

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