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Message 42570 - Posted: 24 Jun 2007, 18:23:03 UTC - in response to Message 42564.  

I believe that the plus/minus system should be removed and only the red "x" function available.


So do I

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Message 42573 - Posted: 24 Jun 2007, 18:56:22 UTC

Until David Kim gets organised, this might work. Go to- Your profile-Edit Message Board Preferences-Filtering. Change filter threshold from default to approx -10 or so. One of the Mods mentioned this idea in a thread some time ago.

ps; not sure if the above will work if the 'idiot' reads this. [keeping fingers crossed].
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Message 42577 - Posted: 24 Jun 2007, 19:19:53 UTC - in response to Message 42570.  

I believe that the plus/minus system should be removed and only the red "x" function available.


So do I

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you got my vote on this as well
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Message 42578 - Posted: 24 Jun 2007, 19:21:32 UTC - in response to Message 42573.  

Until David Kim gets organised, this might work. Go to- Your profile-Edit Message Board Preferences-Filtering. Change filter threshold from default to approx -10 or so. One of the Mods mentioned this idea in a thread some time ago.

ps; not sure if the above will work if the 'idiot' reads this. [keeping fingers crossed].


you can also exclude "idiot" in that same area. just enter the name in the box and save it and then they will be excluded.
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Message 42584 - Posted: 24 Jun 2007, 21:40:03 UTC

I am in agreement, as a matter of fact I will personally go on a crusade of +1 every single -1 post I find. Got a plus from me too Matt for the idea. Thanks to you kind Rosetta moderators for your efforts with regards to this issue.

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Message 42636 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 8:24:17 UTC


We disabled this pointless rating feature on the CPDN/boinc forums a while back, it appears to only be used for flame wars and the like, rather than it's intended purpose.

If someone is going through and giving dozens of -ve ratings per day to loads of posts and people blindly, they're obviously not interested in the project itself and I don't see what would be wrong in blocking their account in that case. However simply removing the functionality would be more diplomatic.

It would be interesting to know who the top -ve rater is ... so, project staff, how about pulling it out of the DB + publishing it? :=)




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Message 42683 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 23:52:24 UTC

sounds like the consensus is to remove the rating option. Any objections?
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Message 42684 - Posted: 26 Jun 2007, 23:59:51 UTC


There is an alternative here:

http://pirates.spy-hill.net/glossary/index.php?title=Forum_rating_points

This is the rating code from the pirates project, which introduces things like daily limits and so forth.

But I personally prefer the simpler solution of disabling them entirely. For reference the option is set in config.xml.

<no_forum_rating/>

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ProjectOptions

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Message 42688 - Posted: 27 Jun 2007, 6:35:10 UTC

It's a shame that the project has to change its operating procedure because of a couple of morons.
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Message 42691 - Posted: 27 Jun 2007, 8:19:36 UTC - in response to Message 42683.  

sounds like the consensus is to remove the rating option. Any objections?


no objection here, just leave the report this post feature
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Message 42738 - Posted: 27 Jun 2007, 22:22:42 UTC - in response to Message 42683.  

sounds like the consensus is to remove the rating option. Any objections?

I like the rating feature, however once it turns into random abuse there is not much left to do. I would like to see the code from the pirates project tested on a real project though. It works fine there but there was not a problem there either.
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Message 42741 - Posted: 27 Jun 2007, 22:31:53 UTC

I am throwing this against the wall to see if it sticks:

Another possible option could be a modified version of what Pirates is apparently doing.

Rather than set a strict daily limit on the number of +/-'s that a member can assign, make it variable, based upon a combination of RAC and date last credit posted.

i.e., if a member has a RAC of less than 10 (?) and no recent credits posted within the past 10 days (?), then allow them a daily limit of 1 (?) +/-.

And so on.

Ok, let's see if this will stick.....
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Message 42743 - Posted: 27 Jun 2007, 23:29:00 UTC - in response to Message 42741.  

i.e., if a member has a RAC of less than 10 (?) and no recent credits posted within the past 10 days (?), then allow them a daily limit of 1 (?) +/-.


That is starting to sound like you are still allowed to be a moron if you have enough machines... or enough user IDs under your thumb.

Have the default preferences changed or something? It used to be that posts were not filtered until they had like a -25 rating. Why is everyone talking about things with a -1 disappearing?
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Message 42773 - Posted: 28 Jun 2007, 16:41:35 UTC

I am against removing the rating system. I have never used it and have never paid any attention to it to the point of not even knowing it was there until I read this thread.

As was pointed out you can set the filtering level in your user preferences. The default is not to filter out any post until it gets a -25 rating. I rather doubt that if you left your preference to the default level that any post has ever been filtered for you. But if you want more assurance that you are seeing every post set it to some higher level, say -100 or -1000.

So the rating system works as intended it seems to me. Each user can set the filter level to her/his preference. And each user can rate posts as they see fit. The only possible exception is if someone is rating the same post multiple times. Each person should only get to rate each post once.

Just my two cents worth.

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Message 42779 - Posted: 28 Jun 2007, 18:17:45 UTC - in response to Message 42773.  
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My default filter level was set at 0. I had to intentional make an effort to change it to a different setting.

Don't know why mine was 0, and yours apparently 25.

I guess one of the questions being raised by this discussion is whether the project itself should change something, or if (potentially) 100,000 members should have to individually change something.
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Message 42783 - Posted: 28 Jun 2007, 18:31:31 UTC - in response to Message 42779.  

My default filter level was set at 0. I had to intentional make an effort to change it to a different setting.

Don't know why mine was 0, and yours apparently 25.

I guess one of the questions being raised by this discussion is whether the project itself should change something, or if (potentially) 100,000 members should have to individually change something.



The default filter level is -25 if your set your level to 0 or leave it blank, otherwise it is set to whatever you set it.
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