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Message 24742 - Posted: 24 Aug 2006, 16:44:56 UTC
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My girlfriend just moved in with me and she is having problems accepting my quirks. If we are to move forward together, she ultimately has to accept them. She could go from person to person and not accept their quirks, and this would not serve her.


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Message 24746 - Posted: 24 Aug 2006, 17:17:33 UTC

Carl, thanks for putting a smile on my face :)
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Message 24758 - Posted: 24 Aug 2006, 19:00:19 UTC
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I don`t find it funny and I know a lot of females don`t either. My wife was outraged. Howether this discussion is not on topic !

she ultimately has to accept them

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Message 24759 - Posted: 24 Aug 2006, 19:06:02 UTC

OK whatever dude. In the U.S. (as opposed to the UK), "quirks" means peculiar aspects of your personality. It's in no way sexist because the same applies to me and to everyone. Hopefully the people in our lives ultimately accept us, regardless of what minor faults we have.
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Message 24766 - Posted: 24 Aug 2006, 20:36:46 UTC

"I want to take a picture of some apples, but they will have to be red." If the apples aren't red, then they're not in the picture.

she ultimately has to accept them


Taking that phrase out of context seems like a major part of the problem with communication with the project. We users seem to be reading whatever we want into statements made by project staff, jumping to conclusions, and rioting without even giving them the chance to clarify their statements.



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Message 24768 - Posted: 24 Aug 2006, 20:52:36 UTC

... without even giving them the chance to clarify their statements.


Maybe that's a problem with not enough clear, concise information being provided, and leaving room for interpretation.

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Message 24771 - Posted: 24 Aug 2006, 21:45:49 UTC - in response to Message 24726.  


Seems to me that people care more about their stats than MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD.

At last, you've see the lightbulb ;)

It's so true, live with the fact that most of the people, who are crunching, lives in that box you have created.

I'm one of them, I know I'm a loser, I'll throw me from the bridge for that, but first I want DPC be the number one on all projects, only then I'll find me a bridge.

No DC community without descent stats, simple like that :D
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Message 24773 - Posted: 24 Aug 2006, 22:09:28 UTC - in response to Message 24771.  


Seems to me that people care more about their stats than MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD.

At last, you've see the lightbulb ;)

It's so true, live with the fact that most of the people, who are crunching, lives in that box you have created.

I'm one of them, I know I'm a loser, I'll throw me from the bridge for that, but first I want DPC be the number one on all projects, only then I'll find me a bridge.

No DC community without descent stats, simple like that :D


Let me know what bridge and i'll race you to it :D

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Message 24777 - Posted: 24 Aug 2006, 22:25:34 UTC - in response to Message 24766.  

"I want to take a picture of some apples, but they will have to be red." If the apples aren't red, then they're not in the picture.

she ultimately has to accept them


Taking that phrase out of context seems like a major part of the problem with communication with the project. We users seem to be reading whatever we want into statements made by project staff, jumping to conclusions, and rioting without even giving them the chance to clarify their statements.



Why do you want to take a picture of some apples Benny ?

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Message 24780 - Posted: 24 Aug 2006, 22:46:10 UTC - in response to Message 24759.  

OK whatever dude. In the U.S. (as opposed to the UK), "quirks" means peculiar aspects of your personality. It's in no way sexist because the same applies to me and to everyone. Hopefully the people in our lives ultimately accept us, regardless of what minor faults we have.


Don't worry it means the same here in the UK and I knew what you meant :)
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Message 24789 - Posted: 25 Aug 2006, 0:35:38 UTC - in response to Message 24718.  

the new credit system awards the producer in luck system ive seen the credits granted and this is a joke really.

i have a constructive criticism for you, realise we the crunchers are the base of this project without us the project dies, if we think a part of the project is flawed, the project managers should adress it, we hold the share me make the work and we dont see the benefits as we should? i think you guys really dont appreciate what we are doing here.


But that is what the project currently does - adressing the concerns of the user. They created a new credit system, users where not happy, they change it and tweak it and they listen to proposals how to make it really fair. What is your constructive criticism in this post? They should listen to the user base. They do! But the user base does not speak with one voice. So they need to seek a compromise. Or do you wanted to say, they should listen to the position of XS because we are the big guys?

Here we go again.... Nice.

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Message 24796 - Posted: 25 Aug 2006, 1:30:44 UTC - in response to Message 24738.  

OK, so if the credit system is cleaned up and the kinks are worked out, then what? If they communicate everything, then what?

It seems to me like hardcore crunchers get burnt out and then find a reason not to like it. For example, the more hours you put into a MMORPG, the more dissatified you become after a certain point. My best friend plays Everquest and sees this all the time. People play a LOT, it becomes less rewarding for them, and then they find all the reasons they don't like it. What he found is if he backs away and takes a break (or ignores it as he crunches), then he can come back to it and gain more enjoyment. I admit I check my stats daily, but I really want to check them weekly. I'm too anxious about them.

Let's say project staff changed and communicated and acted in a way that even pleases the military types. Then people are going to find something that they don't like. What if they focus processing power on HIV vaccines and all the cancer survivors get ticked because their issue is temporarily going to the back burner?

My girlfriend just moved in with me and she is having problems accepting my quirks. If we are to move forward together, she ultimately has to accept them. She could go from person to person and not accept their quirks, and this would not serve her. People go from project to project and don't accept their idiosyncracies and I don't think this serves them as people. I still accept them though :)

This has nothing to do with burnout.I've been running this project exclusively since Jan 11. Never bothered to come to these forums except once or twice until app 4-5 weeks ago when our rep to rosetta informed me that a small group was here with an agenda to change everything around to suit their perception of how things should be run. I came here, heard my team constantly being called cheaters and saw no response from the developers at all to put a stop to it.
Dr. Baker was asked both in email and live when he posted at the XS forum and did nothing to address it. All it would have taken is a simple message from him to them to stop it.
This is the point of contention and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
How can you communicate with someone that isn't willing to communicate back in straight talk?
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Message 24817 - Posted: 25 Aug 2006, 5:28:49 UTC

What seems a bit odd to me is David Baker asked questions at XS and is now blanking the people there. Why ask in the first place, if he had no intention of listening ? Does'nt exactly inspire confidence.
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Message 24836 - Posted: 25 Aug 2006, 7:54:45 UTC - in response to Message 24817.  

What seems a bit odd to me is David Baker asked questions at XS and is now blanking the people there. Why ask in the first place, if he had no intention of listening ? Doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Not posting anymore and not listening are two different things. The reasons he's not posting there any more have been covered.
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