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Message 51916 - Posted 13 Mar 2008 0:24:46 UTC

Please post any bugs regarding the new minirosetta application here (version 1.09).

This version now includes graphics, but only for windows machines. A mac version of the graphics also exists but in version 1.09 is unfortunately nonfunctional. The new graphics are still a work in progress, and as such are going to be different from what everyone is used to.

We have two goals for this release. The first is to verify how some of rosetta's key protocols have survived the move into minirosetta, and the second is to test new protocols that our switch to minirosetta has made possible. Both sets of protocols will be tested on targets that we consider to be scientifically useful.

For now there will only be a gradual increase in work units running minirosetta, in case we missed any significant bugs during our tests on ralph.





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Message 51945 - Posted 15 Mar 2008 1:20:21 UTC

Eset Smart Security is still blocking the download.
http://srv3.bakerlab.org/rosetta/download/minirosetta_1.09_windows_intelx86.exe probably a variant of Win32/Statik application connection terminated - quarantined

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Message 51946 - Posted 15 Mar 2008 1:36:26 UTC

I understand that this release has graphics correct?, well the "show graphics button" is greyed out for me in boinc.
cheers, kp.

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Message 51947 - Posted 15 Mar 2008 2:25:36 UTC
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Me too, I don't see any graphics button. Am running the newest BOINC Windows client.

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Message 51951 - Posted 15 Mar 2008 3:01:58 UTC

I'm having the same problem. The client downloaded the new graphics fine but the "show graphics" button shows gray.


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Message 51954 - Posted 15 Mar 2008 5:44:42 UTC - in response to Message ID 51945.
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Eset Smart Security is still blocking the download.
http://srv3.bakerlab.org/rosetta/download/minirosetta_1.09_windows_intelx86.exe probably a variant of Win32/Statik application connection terminated - quarantined

Same thing happened to me. I have sent a pm to Dekim over @ ralph with my Eset log file re this problem.

I'm having the same problem. The client downloaded the new graphics fine but the "show graphics" button shows gray.

I'm having the same problem

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Message 51955 - Posted 15 Mar 2008 6:42:19 UTC

Like others who have recently reported -- Minirosetta looks to be recognized as being a virus -- as I reported a couple of months ago, for me this is with the latest definitions from NOD32. So it looks like the loop wasn't closed (on one side or the other) either with the ESET folks or the coding folks at Rosetta.

Is their any way to configure at our end to specify we don't want the Minirosetta work units? If I am not at a workstation to clear it, it stops BOINC for ALL projects. In that context, rather than loose processing for all projects, I believe the approach would be to put them on hold outbound at the server. Elsewise, I will need to suspend Rosetta on my workstations pending a fix.

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Message 51958 - Posted 15 Mar 2008 9:58:36 UTC

I can download the app no problem but can't see any graphics. I am using an ATI Radeon X800 graphics card in this machine.
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Message 51961 - Posted 15 Mar 2008 12:37:58 UTC - in response to Message ID 51955.
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Like others who have recently reported -- Minirosetta looks to be recognized as being a virus -- as I reported a couple of months ago, for me this is with the latest definitions from NOD32. So it looks like the loop wasn't closed (on one side or the other) either with the ESET folks or the coding folks at Rosetta.

Is their any way to configure at our end to specify we don't want the Minirosetta work units? If I am not at a workstation to clear it, it stops BOINC for ALL projects. In that context, rather than loose processing for all projects, I believe the approach would be to put them on hold outbound at the server. Elsewise, I will need to suspend Rosetta on my workstations pending a fix.

Thanks

Barry

Since this is false-positive,everybody concered should contact maker of AV.
And I do not think it is possible to opt-out of Minirosseta(it will replace completly old app).
(Bug maker often enough and they will correct this,if not you should just migrate to other AV.Like AVG :-) )

EDIT:Latest AVG 7.5(not 8.0) is saying nothing about Minirosseta...

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Message 51967 - Posted 15 Mar 2008 18:44:40 UTC
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hi, I run Rosetta on a couple of hosts including a very old win98 pc; although not guaranteed it has been quite happy - if slow - with most applications, 5.82, the recent 5.93 & 5.95 running fine. Minirosetta v.1.07 didn't throw up any problems on the few wus that came my way. Sadly I've had 2/2 "compute error" failures with the new v.1.09 reporting a missing library file:

on resultid=148185328

<core_client_version>5.10.30</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
CreateProcess() failed - One of the library files needed to run this application cannot be found. (0x485)
</message>
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the other wu was exactly the same.

I don't expect win98 to be specifically supported so if this doesn't solve itself as minirosetta develops I guess I'll have to retire the machine from this project and find a similar folding application perhaps on WCG etc. I can only sensibly do small work units on it.
as long as there are plenty of 5.95s around I'll be fine but if I start trashing a significant percentage of wus then I'd better suspend things.

meanwhile all looks ok on the main XP pc - graphics button apart of course.

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Message 51969 - Posted 15 Mar 2008 19:45:14 UTC

Reporting an compute error with Mini-Rosetta:

Taskid: 148180840
workunit: 135111854
name: score13_hb_multitest62_A_1opd__2983_200_0

I got this error:

<core_client_version>5.10.20</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Created semaphore
Created semaphore
Created semaphore
Created semaphore
======================================================
DONE :: 1 starting structures 5656.09 cpu seconds
This process generated 1 decoys from 1 attempts
======================================================

BOINC :: Watchdog shutting down...
BOINC :: BOINC support services shutting down...
called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
<message>
<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>score13_hb_multitest62_A_1opd__2983_200_0_0</file_name>
<error_code>-161</error_code>
</file_xfer_error>

</message>
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Is this something I did or a problem with Mini-Rosetta??


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Message 51970 - Posted 15 Mar 2008 19:49:04 UTC

Actually I've had two very similar errors:

Task ID 148193868
Name score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ubi__2980_771_0
Workunit 135123822
Created 14 Mar 2008 22:37:12 UTC
...

<core_client_version>5.10.20</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Created semaphore
Created semaphore
Created semaphore
Created semaphore
Created semaphore
Created semaphore
======================================================
DONE :: 1 starting structures 5614.69 cpu seconds
This process generated 1 decoys from 1 attempts
======================================================

BOINC :: Watchdog shutting down...
BOINC :: BOINC support services shutting down...
called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
<message>
<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ubi__2980_771_0_0</file_name>
<error_code>-161</error_code>
</file_xfer_error>

</message>
]]>

It almost looks as though the workunit succeeded and then the file transfer failed, which is really frustrating if true.
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Message 51974 - Posted 16 Mar 2008 8:04:29 UTC - in response to Message ID 51961.

We all could, but then the sequence would be -- we report to ESET -- they tell us that we should contact the developer so that they (ie Rosetta) could coordinate with ESET to resolve the problem. That is -- that would only lengthen the corrective action. Further, if you'd track back on the Minirosetta reports, the project here had previously queried ESET -- but had (that is the Rosetta folks) suspended sending out additional minirosetta work based on trouble reports (including a number of us reporting the ESET issue here. I'm surprised that the Rosetta folks restarted sending out minirosetta without confirming that they were no longer generating 'false postives' (and not only with ESET).

There seem to be a number of possible approaches here.

1) Rosetta suspend sending out minirosetta until they, in concert with the AV folks resolve and verify the false positive reports.

2) The rosetta folks allow the ability to configure to not receive Minirosetta work.

3) Users individually work personally with the ESET and Rosetta developers to help both sides write code that can be written.

4) Users only install Rosetta on the systems they can frequently observe and terminate the trouble causing download.

5) Users suspend Rosetta on all workstations and await notice from Rosetta that the issue has been resolve.


In my my, solution 1 seems the best choice. Solution 2 is also reasonable. Solution 4 will also work -- but will reduce Rosetta work being done AND increase end user effort to maintain. Solution 5 is quite effective, but will reduce the science performed.

Solution 3 is something close to what you are suggesting, and something I suspect neither Rosetta nor the AV developers are likely to support.

There are of course other solutions, like having Rosetta fund users purchasing other AV software, but that's something I suspect will be something not in the best interests of Rosetta, the users, and the AV folks.

Note, this is the only particular work unit type out there (of any of the BOINC projects I've supported) causing this problem. So to me, the effort to correct the problem is on the Rosetta project, working in coordination with the AV developers directly.

What bothers me most (the inconvenience is a pain as well), is that the Rosetta folks first stopped releasing the client (a good move) after the got feedback of the problem, and then (apparently without confirming that the problem was resolved), started releasing the workunits, EVEN though they were aware of the prior reports. That strikes me as less than responsible behavior, as it adversely affects both the end user/volunteer AND other BOINC projects as well. A prime concept behind the BOINC project to shared computing is NOT to have one projects actions adversely affect all other BOINC projects.

Barry






Since this is false-positive,everybody concered should contact maker of AV.
And I do not think it is possible to opt-out of Minirosseta(it will replace completly old app).
(Bug maker often enough and they will correct this,if not you should just migrate to other AV.Like AVG :-) )

EDIT:Latest AVG 7.5(not 8.0) is saying nothing about Minirosseta...


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Message 51976 - Posted 16 Mar 2008 8:44:36 UTC

Name 1npsA_BOINC_ABINITIO_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-9-S3-3--1npsA-_2984_216_0
Workunit 135171828

<core_client_version>5.10.30</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
- exit code -529697949 (0xe06d7363)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 28800


Unhandled Exception Detected...

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Out Of Memory (C++ Exception) (0xe06d7363) at address 0x7C812A5B

Engaging BOINC Windows Runtime Debugger...

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Message 51980 - Posted 16 Mar 2008 10:44:34 UTC
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16/03/2008 03:20:22|rosetta@home|[error] Can't link projects/boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta/minirosetta_1.09_windows_intelx86.exe to slots/4/minirosetta_1.09_windows_intelx86.exe
Is this my computer or is it Minirosetta
Task ID 147849143
Name score12_hb_envtest62_A_1cg5B_2935_26343_1
Workunit 133041769
Created 13 Mar 2008 15:27:07 UTC
Sent 13 Mar 2008 15:27:23 UTC
Received 16 Mar 2008 10:46:07 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Client error
Client state Compute error
Exit status -185 (0xffffff47)
Computer ID 234726
Report deadline 23 Mar 2008 15:27:23 UTC
CPU time 0
stderr out <core_client_version>5.10.30</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Can't link input file
</message>
]]>


Validate state Invalid
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Granted credit 0
application version 1.09
this is from task details page
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Message 51982 - Posted 16 Mar 2008 13:41:54 UTC

The "Show graphics" button is greyed out for me, too. Boinc Manager version 5.10.45, if it matters.

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Message 51983 - Posted 16 Mar 2008 18:27:13 UTC

I'm not sure we have an ENTIRELY AV problem here: of the two problems I reported with mini-Rosetta, one WU was rerun successfully; the other, WU 135123822, says it's still rerunning - which is odd because all the tasks showing in BOINC manager are Rosetta 5.95. Also, I'm not running ESET (whatever that is) - I have ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite with the Kaspersky anti-virus, and it hasn't reported any problems with any of the Rosetta programs.


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Message 51985 - Posted 16 Mar 2008 18:46:10 UTC

I'm running Linux (32-bit SuSE 10.2, with 32-bit 5.10.42 BOINC).

So far, some 15 Minirosetta version 1.09 workunits have been downloaded to my system.
__EVERY ONE__ of them has failed with a segment violation.
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Message 51986 - Posted 16 Mar 2008 20:57:27 UTC
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I've had this one fail, first one in a while.

wuid=135185075

3/16/2008 9:20:36 PM|rosetta@home|Starting 1r69__BOINC_ABINITIO_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-9-S3-3--1r69_-_2984_372_1
3/16/2008 9:20:36 PM|rosetta@home|[error] Process creation failed: One of the library files needed to run this application cannot be found. (0x485)
3/16/2008 9:20:37 PM|rosetta@home|[error] Process creation failed: One of the library files needed to run this application cannot be found. (0x485)
3/16/2008 9:20:37 PM|rosetta@home|[error] Process creation failed: One of the library files needed to run this application cannot be found. (0x485)
3/16/2008 9:20:38 PM|rosetta@home|[error] Process creation failed: One of the library files needed to run this application cannot be found. (0x485)
3/16/2008 9:20:38 PM|rosetta@home|[error] Process creation failed: One of the library files needed to run this application cannot be found. (0x485)
3/16/2008 9:20:39 PM|rosetta@home|Computation for task 1r69__BOINC_ABINITIO_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-9-S3-3--1r69_-_2984_372_1 finished
3/16/2008 9:20:39 PM|rosetta@home|Output file 1r69__BOINC_ABINITIO_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-9-S3-3--1r69_-_2984_372_1_0 for task 1r69__BOINC_ABINITIO_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-9-S3-3--1r69_-_2984_372_1 absent

I have added a app info file to rosetta to stop it using 1.09, it's working.

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Message 51998 - Posted 18 Mar 2008 7:49:50 UTC - in response to Message ID 51983.

I'm not sure we have an ENTIRELY AV problem here: of the two problems I reported with mini-Rosetta, one WU was rerun successfully; the other, WU 135123822, says it's still rerunning - which is odd because all the tasks showing in BOINC manager are Rosetta 5.95. Also, I'm not running ESET (whatever that is) - I have ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite with the Kaspersky anti-virus, and it hasn't reported any problems with any of the Rosetta programs.


Small clarification:Eset is maker of NOD32 AV.

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Message 52007 - Posted 18 Mar 2008 21:02:12 UTC

I am running the two tasks i got for 1.09 and there is no graphics available despite what is being said by the team on the whats new section of the web page.
I am running the latest Boinc Manager.
Seems the team got ahead of themselves or certain tasks like ABINITO do not have graphics in their code. Anyone know which is correct?
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Message 52020 - Posted 19 Mar 2008 17:51:54 UTC - in response to Message ID 52007.

Hi everyone, thanks for posting all the problems/issues you've been having with minirosetta, this is invaluable information for us. We're trying to fix all of these, although some a trickier then others.

With respect to graphics Mini 1.09 *does* have graphics, and they work fine on Ralph@HOME, but apparently not on Rosetta@HOME. There appears to have been a mistake made while the app was updated, we should be able to fix that very soon.

THe problem concerning the NOD32 virus scanner is a very tricky one. I have now got as far as reproducing the error. I'll post about this in a seperate thread imminently.

Thanks for your help and patience, getting out a brand new app is always tricky,
but we're confident that the new app will make our scientific progress much easier!

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Message 52022 - Posted 19 Mar 2008 18:06:11 UTC

Workaround for NOD32 Virus scanner problems:

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=4017

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Message 52047 - Posted 20 Mar 2008 20:18:31 UTC - in response to Message ID 51967.

I also have errors:
CreateProcess() failed - One of the library files needed to run this application cannot be found. (0x485)

This is on Win98SE box, also. It is running current BOINC.

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Message 52055 - Posted 21 Mar 2008 5:14:34 UTC - in response to Message ID 52047.

I also have errors:
CreateProcess() failed - One of the library files needed to run this application cannot be found. (0x485)

This is on Win98SE box, also. It is running current BOINC.

looks like we are both getting the same response with a win98 box - there are still 24000 win98 pcs registered on boincstats though I don't how many are still active.

since minirosetta 1.07 worked they must have taken something out in 1.09 that zapped it.

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Message 52060 - Posted 21 Mar 2008 14:59:43 UTC - in response to Message ID 52055.

I also have errors:
CreateProcess() failed - One of the library files needed to run this application cannot be found. (0x485)

This is on Win98SE box, also. It is running current BOINC.

looks like we are both getting the same response with a win98 box - there are still 24000 win98 pcs registered on boincstats though I don't how many are still active.

since minirosetta 1.07 worked they must have taken something out in 1.09 that zapped it.

could it be to do with OpenGL? I noticed some jobs failing within seconds of starting recently (and in the past too) because one of my boxes doesn't have OpenGL installed.
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Message 52066 - Posted 21 Mar 2008 20:46:29 UTC - in response to Message ID 52060.

I also have errors:
CreateProcess() failed - One of the library files needed to run this application cannot be found. (0x485)

This is on Win98SE box, also. It is running current BOINC.

looks like we are both getting the same response with a win98 box - there are still 24000 win98 pcs registered on boincstats though I don't how many are still active.

since minirosetta 1.07 worked they must have taken something out in 1.09 that zapped it.

could it be to do with OpenGL? I noticed some jobs failing within seconds of starting recently (and in the past too) because one of my boxes doesn't have OpenGL installed.


dcdc it's not that on mine, both have OpenGL & Dx9 something, anyway i did not

get to look at graphics.

pete.

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Message 52091 - Posted 23 Mar 2008 16:57:44 UTC

Task ID 149658030
Name score13_hb_envtest62_A_1tif__2980_128_1
Workunit 135110106
Created 20 Mar 2008 16:14:25 UTC
Sent 20 Mar 2008 16:14:29 UTC
Received 23 Mar 2008 15:47:22 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 735230
Report deadline 30 Mar 2008 16:14:29 UTC
CPU time 7550.813
stderr out

<core_client_version>5.10.45</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Created semaphore
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
======================================================
DONE :: 1 starting structures 7550 cpu seconds
This process generated 1 decoys from 1 attempts
======================================================

BOINC :: Watchdog shutting down...
BOINC :: BOINC support services shutting down...
called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
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