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Message 51195 - Posted 6 Feb 2008 0:03:12 UTC

Please post any bugs regarding the new minirosetta application here.

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Message 51198 - Posted 6 Feb 2008 2:56:57 UTC

What is "minirosetta" ?
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Message 51199 - Posted 6 Feb 2008 3:36:53 UTC

In short, it's an object oriented implementation of rosetta. The current rosetta application was converted to c++ from a fortran version and is still fortran like in code. Thus, developing new protocols and experiments is quite difficult for researchers new to rosetta and also there is quite a bit of redundant code. Another problem with rosetta development is that it is often hard to debug. Minirosetta is designed to deal with these issues and should greatly expand the capabilities of rosetta and hopefully improve the science. There will be more information about minirosetta soon.

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Message 51203 - Posted 6 Feb 2008 20:29:38 UTC

What we can make in order to begin to use it?
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Message 51204 - Posted 6 Feb 2008 20:36:58 UTC

We are going to slowly ramp up minirosetta tasks since it may still contain some hidden bugs that will only show up when doing large scale runs on R@h. The tasks will mix in with the regular ones so you may or may not get one.

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Message 51206 - Posted 6 Feb 2008 21:13:25 UTC

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Message 51207 - Posted 6 Feb 2008 22:16:40 UTC

by the application name. It starts with "minirosetta_".

The application name is listed in the boinc manager.

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Message 51211 - Posted 7 Feb 2008 2:39:17 UTC

Was this tested at all on Ralph?

No announcement? Just throw it out into the wild and see what breaks?
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Message 51212 - Posted 7 Feb 2008 3:44:01 UTC
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You can read all about the experience on Ralph. Including why the version here ends with .07 rather then .00
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Message 51213 - Posted 7 Feb 2008 3:45:41 UTC
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Yes, we've been testing it on ralph for the past few weeks in small increments. All jobs that run on R@h get tested on ralph first no matter what the application is. The current version runs stable on Ralph but since R@h is a much larger project, some issues might emerge. We are going to slowly ramp up tasks making sure they run okay.

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Message 51246 - Posted 8 Feb 2008 20:50:44 UTC - in response to Message ID 51195.

Please post any bugs regarding the new minirosetta application here.


Not sure if it is a bug of the program -- but NOD32 detects it as a virus -- declares that it is probably a variant of Win32/Statik application

Perhaps you need to communicate with the ESET/NOD32 folks about this.


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Message 51248 - Posted 8 Feb 2008 21:15:45 UTC

I just sent their support staff some questions about this and hope to hear from them soon. Does anyone know if this has happened with any other boinc projects?

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Message 51249 - Posted 8 Feb 2008 21:25:19 UTC - in response to Message ID 51248.

I just sent their support staff some questions about this and hope to hear from them soon. Does anyone know if this has happened with any other boinc projects?


I've been in 8 different BOINC projects -- this is the only one I've seen this with -- and only with minirosetta.

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Message 51252 - Posted 8 Feb 2008 23:29:43 UTC - in response to Message ID 51249.

I just sent their support staff some questions about this and hope to hear from them soon. Does anyone know if this has happened with any other boinc projects?


I've been in 8 different BOINC projects -- this is the only one I've seen this with -- and only with minirosetta.


I have 2 mini WUs in my queue. The queue is 3 days long so it will be a day or so before I hit these WUs. I will report any issues.

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Message 51258 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 3:48:07 UTC

NOD 32 Antivirus is blocking the download. It says it is a virus?

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Message 51260 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 4:19:13 UTC

I installed the NOD32 trial version and scanned my boinc installation and the mini app seemed okay.

I didn't get a chance to reproduce the alert by resetting the project and running mini tasks because my laptop started to hang and become unresponsive. I had to do a system recover and will try it again, making sure I have my other virus scanner removed. Hopefully I'll hear back from the NOD32 support team. It's obviously not a virus. The application is compressed using UPX just like the standard rosetta@home application.

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Message 51262 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 6:44:31 UTC - in response to Message ID 51260.

OK -- I figure this may well be a case of you and the ESET folks getting together on this. It isn't the tasks, it is the downloads. So for this to show up in your test, you will need to install NOD32, get the updates for it, then force a new download of Rosetta mini's.



I installed the NOD32 trial version and scanned my boinc installation and the mini app seemed okay.

I didn't get a chance to reproduce the alert by resetting the project and running mini tasks because my laptop started to hang and become unresponsive. I had to do a system recover and will try it again, making sure I have my other virus scanner removed. Hopefully I'll hear back from the NOD32 support team. It's obviously not a virus. The application is compressed using UPX just like the standard rosetta@home application.


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Message 51263 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 9:20:00 UTC - in response to Message ID 51213.
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Well, if it's like the last few Rosetta "releases" that have been inflicted on the users, the testing was measured in hours, and only a handful of WUs. Not exactly exhaustive testing.

Looks like nothing but trouble.

And where is the announcement about this new app?

Yes, we've been testing it on ralph for the past few weeks in small increments. All jobs that run on R@h get tested on ralph first no matter what the application is. The current version runs stable on Ralph but since R@h is a much larger project, some issues might emerge. We are going to slowly ramp up tasks making sure they run okay.

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Message 51265 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 10:19:23 UTC

Rosetta@Home should include a way to get around the mini application - at least until it is established that the new software works.

I joined because I want to cure people, not because I want to test software. I understand that with better software, the results might improve - however I would like to stick to the real rosetta for the time being.

So, please, include the option to work on mini rosetta or not to.

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Message 51270 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 14:05:58 UTC

Hi,
I am running a job of the Rosetta Mini 1.07 (file name score13_hb_envtest62_A_1acf__2833_2626_0).
The remaining time of the job is increasing in stead of decreasing, although the used processor time is increasing.

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Message 51274 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 17:43:18 UTC

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=139413056
<core_client_version>5.10.22</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Can't link input file
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I'm not sure what went wrong.

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Message 51275 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 18:14:40 UTC - in response to Message ID 51258.

NOD 32 Antivirus is blocking the download. It says it is a virus?



I got the same problem on Ralph. 1.05 and 1.07 were identified as being a probable virus.
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Message 51277 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 19:20:53 UTC

My first Mini seems to be running fine on this computer. Pentium D, Windows XP Home, 2M memory. Boinc 5.10.30

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Message 51281 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 21:10:11 UTC

It's running well so far here too, but seems to be taking more RAM than the previous version. I'd say about 160 megs for Mini vs. about 100 megs for 5.93.
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Message 51282 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 21:19:02 UTC

Yes, it's taking more RAM. I'm running one of each right now. Peak for 5.93 is 114,764K and for mini is 185,424. Current usage is 103M for 5.93 and 174M for mini.

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Message 51283 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 21:32:18 UTC - in response to Message ID 51265.

We are running production minirosetta jobs on R@h. We have tested it on Ralph@home and it appears to be stable. No doubt there may be some issues on R@h because of the much larger diversity of computers but we'll do our best to take care of them as they appear. I'll asked the researcher who is currently running experiments to explain what he is doing with minirosetta. I've suspended his jobs so more rosetta jobs will get issued soon. I checked the result summary and the minirosetta jobs have a 90% success rate on R@h which is lower than the old rosetta app but it's not bad. We have a little debugging to do to lessen the gap. I believe the rosetta app is at around 95-97% but I am not sure and will check.


Rosetta@Home should include a way to get around the mini application - at least until it is established that the new software works.

I joined because I want to cure people, not because I want to test software. I understand that with better software, the results might improve - however I would like to stick to the real rosetta for the time being.

So, please, include the option to work on mini rosetta or not to.

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Message 51284 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 21:43:08 UTC

Are you going to add graphics to mini, and if so, when?

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Message 51285 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 22:08:51 UTC

Additionally,
same error for tasks:

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=139537971

and

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=139605468

<core_client_version>5.10.22</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Can't link input file
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Message 51286 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 22:30:28 UTC
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Hello all,

Just finished 2 new minirosetta's. They run fine.
I noticed a lower use of virtual memory :) 200000 k instead of 350000 k
and a lower amount of granted credits :( 6.7 / hour instead of 9.1 / hour runtime.

I'm not sure, but the amount of page files seems to have increased.

Edit: I'm running window XP – home, 1 core AMD sempron 1.8 G Hz, 1400 MB RAM.

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Message 51287 - Posted 9 Feb 2008 23:25:21 UTC

we are aware of the memory issue, and are working on it.

graphics will be available soon. I don't know exactly when but it is definitely under development.

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Message 51288 - Posted 10 Feb 2008 0:09:53 UTC

I got 9 mini 6 hour wu's today. I have had 5 of them 'freeze' around 12-18 min and then go on to the next wu. I have not had this with Rosetta before today, but I have had some do this on MilkyWay. Is there any info I can leave to help? I am using Boinc 5.10.13.
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Message 51289 - Posted 10 Feb 2008 1:09:46 UTC

hope this helps

log from NOD32:
2/9/2008 5:58:05 PM
HTTP filter
file
http://srv4.bakerlab.org/rosetta/download/minirosetta_1.07_windows_intelx86.exe
probably a variant of Win32/Statik application
connection terminated - quarantined
<pc name>\<user>
Threat was detected upon access to web by the application: C:\Program Files\BOINC\boinc.exe.

Boinc ver. 5.10.30
NOD32 ver. 3.0.551.0
Virus sig. 2861 (20080209)
WinXP SP2

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Message 51290 - Posted 10 Feb 2008 1:12:35 UTC

Hi, so we're excited to actually start running some serious jobs with mini! The first slightly larger scale test is batch 2833 (score13_hb_envtest62_A_*).

We've been working on improving the objective energy function that Rosetta uses to evaluate each structure. In theory the native conformation should get the lowest energies but we had observed several cases in which this appeared not to be the case, i.e. we found "wrong" structures that were nevertheless lower in energy than the relaxed native state. Hence we tinkered with the energy components, re-weighting them and adding a new term which senses the environment of each amino acid. These innovations have been added to the new minirosetta and are looking promising. However, this is the first large scale test of our effords and we're excited to ee the results of this test. Its also the first large scale test of minirosetta on boinc. Hence, despite rigorous testing on ralph, we expect there to be occasional hickups which we'll try to catch and resolve. It is all still pretty fresh code.
Graphics are being worked on, as far as i know we're not far off.

Please do continue to post problems and give feedback, its all very valuable to us to iron out the remaining bugs.

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Message 51291 - Posted 10 Feb 2008 2:47:58 UTC - in response to Message ID 51288.

I got 9 mini 6 hour wu's today. I have had 5 of them 'freeze' around 12-18 min and then go on to the next wu. I have not had this with Rosetta before today, but I have had some do this on MilkyWay. Is there any info I can leave to help? I am using Boinc 5.10.13.


You can help by joining the Ralph@home project for alpha testing if you haven't already.

http://ralph.bakerlab.org

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Message 51292 - Posted 10 Feb 2008 4:11:37 UTC - in response to Message ID 51291.



You can help by joining the Ralph@home project for alpha testing if you haven't already.

http://ralph.bakerlab.org


That doesn't address my issue.
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Message 51293 - Posted 10 Feb 2008 5:07:08 UTC - in response to Message ID 51292.
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You can help by joining the Ralph@home project for alpha testing if you haven't already.

http://ralph.bakerlab.org


That doesn't address my issue.


I don't see any minirosetta jobs that have failed from your host yet. Did they error out or are they being suspended?

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Message 51294 - Posted 10 Feb 2008 5:45:57 UTC

Thumbs down.

I'm running the 32-bit minirosetta 1.07 under the 32-bit BOINC client 5.10.28, on an AMD 64-bit dual-core system using 32-bit SuSE 10.2

So far I am only getting a 11% success rate on minirosetta -- various kinds of crashes, mostly segment violations. [My success rate on regular Rosetta is near 100%.]
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Message 51296 - Posted 10 Feb 2008 6:21:02 UTC - in response to Message ID 51263.

Well, if it's like the last few Rosetta "releases" that have been inflicted on the users, the testing was measured in hours, and only a handful of WUs. Not exactly exhaustive testing.


While earlier versions, especially 1.03 - 1.06 were indeed tested on Ralph, with Mini Rosetta 1.07 there is a new record for "test period": 33 minutes and 14 seconds between the time it was released on Ralph and Rosetta. This means that there was not enough time to even get a single successful result!

I never received a single 1.07 workunit on Ralph, but have gotten several on Rosetta and they seem to be all successfull.
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Message 51297 - Posted 10 Feb 2008 6:51:30 UTC - in response to Message ID 51296.

Well, if it's like the last few Rosetta "releases" that have been inflicted on the users, the testing was measured in hours, and only a handful of WUs. Not exactly exhaustive testing.


While earlier versions, especially 1.03 - 1.06 were indeed tested on Ralph, with Mini Rosetta 1.07 there is a new record for "test period": 33 minutes and 14 seconds between the time it was released on Ralph and Rosetta. This means that there was not enough time to even get a single successful result!

I never received a single 1.07 workunit on Ralph, but have gotten several on Rosetta and they seem to be all successfull.



1.06 was running stable except for a small bug accidentally introduced by a researcher not long ago. The bug was causing minirosetta to start with the beginning structure number after a restart. It was just the numbering that repeated and not the actual calculation and resulting coordinates but it was enough to cause our validator to invalidate the results that happened to restart after any structure was made. I added the fix quickly and decided that the 95+% success rate of 1.06 (even w/ the small bug) was good enough to start small tests on R@h after the quick fix. minirosetta is running with the same success rate as standard rosetta on R@h (90%). I've seen rosetta@home w/ a better success rate and I'll talk to developers about trying to make both more stable.

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Message 51298 - Posted 10 Feb 2008 7:00:49 UTC - in response to Message ID 51294.
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Thumbs down.

I'm running the 32-bit minirosetta 1.07 under the 32-bit BOINC client 5.10.28, on an AMD 64-bit dual-core system using 32-bit SuSE 10.2

So far I am only getting a 11% success rate on minirosetta -- various kinds of crashes, mostly segment violations. [My success rate on regular Rosetta is near 100%.]
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EDIT: I just looked at your host and noticed that it's running linux so the following below does not apply. It would be interesting to run a debug version on your computer and get a trace. We can't reproduce these errors but it is obviously reproducible on your host. Sorry you're having these errors.

To help us debug, can you download our symbols file so that we can hopefully get more debugging information? we can't reproduce the access violations.

You can download it at:

http://ralph.bakerlab.org/download/minirosetta_1.07_windows_intelx86.pdb

It's unfortunately big, 25MB.

Can you place it in your BOINC installation in the BOINC/projects/boinc.bakerlab.org_rosetta directory?
and if you are running Ralph@home, can you place a copy in projects/ralph.bakerlab.org?

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Message 51301 - Posted 10 Feb 2008 14:46:19 UTC

They are freezing not crashing. The wu's are doing ~15 min of work and then going to the next unit instead of finishing it.
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Message 51302 - Posted 10 Feb 2008 15:21:06 UTC - in response to Message ID 51291.

I got 9 mini 6 hour wu's today. I have had 5 of them 'freeze' around 12-18 min and then go on to the next wu. I have not had this with Rosetta before today, but I have had some do this on MilkyWay. Is there any info I can leave to help? I am using Boinc 5.10.13.


You can help by joining the Ralph@home project for alpha testing if you haven't already.

http://ralph.bakerlab.org


Give us a few thousand WUs over there to work on.

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Message 51305 - Posted 10 Feb 2008 20:37:15 UTC - in response to Message ID 51291.

I attached to Ralph.

There is no work to use for testing.

Nice try.

I got 9 mini 6 hour wu's today. I have had 5 of them 'freeze' around 12-18 min and then go on to the next wu. I have not had this with Rosetta before today, but I have had some do this on MilkyWay. Is there any info I can leave to help? I am using Boinc 5.10.13.


You can help by joining the Ralph@home project for alpha testing if you haven't already.

http://ralph.bakerlab.org


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Message 51306 - Posted 10 Feb 2008 20:54:07 UTC

I want to wait a little bit to give users who want to help out a chance to download the symbols file. We'll send out more test jobs later tonight or tomorrow.

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Message 51311 - Posted 10 Feb 2008 22:01:33 UTC
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so far on my system at a 4 hr setting, 1 ran 3hrs 50 or so and quit
another i ran only went to 3hrs 15 min or so and quit.
first one came in 5 credits under claimed, the second one came in at 8 under claimed. kinda hurting my average with these.
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Message 51312 - Posted 11 Feb 2008 0:21:30 UTC - in response to Message ID 51311.

so far on my system at a 4 hr setting, 1 ran 3hrs 50 or so and quit
another i ran only went to 3hrs 15 min or so and quit.
first one came in 5 credits under claimed, the second one came in at 8 under claimed. kinda hurting my average with these.


I don't know why it would be much different compared to the standard rosetta app with our credit averaging system. It does use more memory but we are working on reducing it.

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Message 51313 - Posted 11 Feb 2008 1:56:49 UTC - in response to Message ID 51282.
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Yes, it's taking more RAM. I'm running one of each right now. Peak for 5.93 is 114,764K and for mini is 185,424. Current usage is 103M for 5.93 and 174M for mini.

Same here, 167MB (172 max) for Mini vs 154MB (155 max) for standard.

But Mini only takes 166MB of virtual memory, while the standard Rosetta takes 230MB. I don't know if you can just add up those two numbers to get the total memory usage of 334MB vs 484MB.

But this probably means anyway that Mini actually takes less RAM.

first one came in 5 credits under claimed, the second one came in at 8 under claimed. kinda hurting my average with these.
I almost always get a little less credit than claimed. 8 credits out of 350 is only about 2% anway, so it shouldn't matter much.

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Message 51314 - Posted 11 Feb 2008 2:04:57 UTC

Just a quick note on the NOD32 issue.
I had the same false-positive on my system and after having a quick look and a scan it appears that it is only IMON that detects Mini as a virus. IMON is NOD32's internet scanner, it actually scans files as they are downloading by watching HTTP and POP3 traffic to stop viruses making it onto a system in the first place. NOD32's realtime scanner does not detect Mini as a virus and neither does the on demand scanner.

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I checked the result summary and the minirosetta jobs have a 90% success rate on R@h which is lower than the old rosetta app but it's not bad.


From a Rosetta user's perspective, I would consider 90% to be the minimum acceptable success rate on RALPH. Anything less than 97-98% here on Rosetta is unacceptable. It sucks to realize that you got a work-unit from a non-alpha project that causes BOINC to lock up and crash.

Please be more diligent with your alpha testing. What's the rush to get it here? If we want to run beta/unstable workunits, we will run them on RALPH (which I recently had to suspend on all 3 of my workstations due to mini-rosetta consistently crashing BOINC completely).

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Message 51318 - Posted 11 Feb 2008 4:43:19 UTC - in response to Message ID 51317.

I checked the result summary and the minirosetta jobs have a 90% success rate on R@h which is lower than the old rosetta app but it's not bad.


From a Rosetta user's perspective, I would consider 90% to be the minimum acceptable success rate on RALPH. Anything less than 97-98% here on Rosetta is unacceptable. It sucks to realize that you got a work-unit from a non-alpha project that causes BOINC to lock up and crash.

Please be more diligent with your alpha testing. What's the rush to get it here? If we want to run beta/unstable workunits, we will run them on RALPH (which I recently had to suspend on all 3 of my workstations due to mini-rosetta consistently crashing BOINC completely).



I am not aware of a work unit on R@h from mini that causes BOINC to lock up and crash. There is no real rush except for the interest of science and getting results, that is why we are slowly adding mini work units to R@h. We do however need to get mini running for CASP which is coming up this summer. Ralph does not have the same diversity of computers and active users as R@h so we have to eventually start running jobs, particularly since ralph jobs are having a similar success rate as R@h. I realize some people will have computers that don't like some mini work units as there are some computers that do not like rosetta tasks.

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Message 51319 - Posted 11 Feb 2008 5:25:02 UTC - in response to Message ID 51318.

I checked the result summary and the minirosetta jobs have a 90% success rate on R@h which is lower than the old rosetta app but it's not bad.


From a Rosetta user's perspective, I would consider 90% to be the minimum acceptable success rate on RALPH. Anything less than 97-98% here on Rosetta is unacceptable. It sucks to realize that you got a work-unit from a non-alpha project that causes BOINC to lock up and crash.

Please be more diligent with your alpha testing. What's the rush to get it here? If we want to run beta/unstable workunits, we will run them on RALPH (which I recently had to suspend on all 3 of my workstations due to mini-rosetta consistently crashing BOINC completely).



I am not aware of a work unit on R@h from mini that causes BOINC to lock up and crash. There is no real rush except for the interest of science and getting results, that is why we are slowly adding mini work units to R@h. We do however need to get mini running for CASP which is coming up this summer. Ralph does not have the same diversity of computers and active users as R@h so we have to eventually start running jobs, particularly since ralph jobs are having a similar success rate as R@h. I realize some people will have computers that don't like some mini work units as there are some computers that do not like rosetta tasks.


The list of CPUs on Ralph looks very much like the list of CPUs on Rosetta, just fewer of them.........of course it doesn't matter there are fewer CPUs on Ralph, because you don't give us enough WUs to keep those CPUs busy anyway.

What does the diversity of active users have to do with anything?

If you aren't going to use Ralph as a "real" test site, why don't you shut it down, conserve those resources and continue to test on Rosetta like you do now.

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Message 51321 - Posted 11 Feb 2008 6:31:49 UTC - in response to Message ID 51319.
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I checked the result summary and the minirosetta jobs have a 90% success rate on R@h which is lower than the old rosetta app but it's not bad.


From a Rosetta user's perspective, I would consider 90% to be the minimum acceptable success rate on RALPH. Anything less than 97-98% here on Rosetta is unacceptable. It sucks to realize that you got a work-unit from a non-alpha project that causes BOINC to lock up and crash.

Please be more diligent with your alpha testing. What's the rush to get it here? If we want to run beta/unstable workunits, we will run them on RALPH (which I recently had to suspend on all 3 of my workstations due to mini-rosetta consistently crashing BOINC completely).



I am not aware of a work unit on R@h from mini that causes BOINC to lock up and crash. There is no real rush except for the interest of science and getting results, that is why we are slowly adding mini work units to R@h. We do however need to get mini running for CASP which is coming up this summer. Ralph does not have the same diversity of computers and active users as R@h so we have to eventually start running jobs, particularly since ralph jobs are having a similar success rate as R@h. I realize some people will have computers that don't like some mini work units as there are some computers that do not like rosetta tasks.


The list of CPUs on Ralph looks very much like the list of CPUs on Rosetta, just fewer of them.........of course it doesn't matter there are fewer CPUs on Ralph, because you don't give us enough WUs to keep those CPUs busy anyway.

What does the diversity of active users have to do with anything?

If you aren't going to use Ralph as a "real" test site, why don't you shut it down, conserve those resources and continue to test on Rosetta like you do now.

Agreed.

90% is a horrible success rate. 1 of every 10 WUs fail? How are you going to get 97-98% on Rosetta if you can only get 90% on Ralph?

I would think until you can get 99.x% on Ralph, it should never see Rosetta.

The whole point of Ralph was to get the bugs out and provide a clean debugged application and WU mix to Rosetta.
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Message 51323 - Posted 11 Feb 2008 6:34:49 UTC - in response to Message ID 51318.
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Ralph does not have the same diversity of computers and active users as R@h so we have to eventually start running jobs


This is something that should be published on the front page of the project, as it is a significantly different approach than almost all other BOINC projects and conflicts with what you are telling us we are doing. To quote a user from a few weeks ago:

"I joined because I want to cure people, not because I want to test software. I understand that with better software, the results might improve - however I would like to stick to the real rosetta for the time being."

It seems like there is no "real rosetta" per your comment above. If you need more diversity on RALPH, perhaps you should be asking for it from your contributors (us). The fact that we are here, attached, and reading the forum means that if you need specific help over at RALPH - i.e. specific OS or hardware tested - just ask. We might be able to help. Lots of people connected to Rosetta don't check the message board. If WU's start failing or acting up, they disconnect from the project and find another one.

According to David E K, there was a memory issue that got through the alpha testing without being identified.

There is a SAV false positive that got through alpha without being identified.

There are several other quirky issues in this thread.

How long was 1.07 tested on Ralph? Doesn't it seem apparent it should have seen more time? I'm not trying to be a jerk about this, I just think that you would help us immensely by being more thorough in alpha.

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Message 51325 - Posted 11 Feb 2008 7:39:36 UTC
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How long was 1.07 tested on Ralph? Doesn't it seem apparent it should have seen more time?

Your answer was posted previously:
with Mini Rosetta 1.07 there is a new record for "test period": 33 minutes and 14 seconds between the time it was released on Ralph and Rosetta.

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Message 51329 - Posted 11 Feb 2008 19:37:31 UTC

This is in response to angus, j2satx and jack's comments

The only difference between 1.06, which has been tested thoroughly IMO, and 1.07, is a minor and trivial bug fix. That is why the "test period" was short. There isn't a significant difference in the success rates between minirosetta and old rosetta, see below. I understand people's opinions and frustrations about the testing, acceptable success rates, and errors. That is why we stopped issuing mini tasks for the time being. We will however, slowly issue tasks again for experiments that we are interested in and that are important. We are not running tests on R@h, they are all production jobs. I don't think it is possible for Ralph to be like R@h. It's a lot to ask from users to run a test site and expect the same turnout as a production site and we wouldn't want to crash thousands of computers during a testing phase. Also, I don't like to waste cpu time by flooding ralph with tasks unless we are able to get useful debugging feedback. Issues are likely to surface on R@h that do not on Ralph (and visa versa) due to differences in the computers and users, not just the computers that are listed but the active computers that do work and the active users that provide feedback. The diversity may look similar from the site, but I see differences in practice. Looking at the status of both applications, it's hard to say that more could be done with mini compared to old rosetta. There's room for improvement for both apps.

The remaining issues that we'd like to address with mini are:

1. screen saver. currently under dev using the minirosetta game framework, may even be an optional game where people can compete with computers and each other to design/fold proteins.
2. larger memory footprint. being worked on and will likely be smaller than old rosetta eventually
3. weird NOD32 virus detection with the NOD32's IMON internet scanner. Scanning the application manually does not detect a virus and obviously it is not a virus, but this is a hassle for NOD32 IMON users so we are looking into it.
4. a rare access violation error
5. a rare validation error

Here is a comparison of the status reports (note, we are not planning to support PPC macs with mini):

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I hope this helps. I'm trying to respond to everyones comments and provide useful info. I know it's a big jump for some users to run a new app and I know some users will have issues with it. So if you have any worries or questions, don't hesitate to ask or make comments.

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Message 51334 - Posted 11 Feb 2008 19:51:14 UTC

Can see that i need to get an 'unknown' PC and never have a failure.

Many thanks for your reply to all the problems.

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Message 51336 - Posted 11 Feb 2008 20:55:43 UTC

"If you aren't going to use Ralph as a "real" test site, why don't you shut it down, conserve those resources and continue to test on Rosetta like you do now."

Ralph is invaluable. We catch many bugs and errors with ralph that would otherwise happen on R@h.

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Message 51342 - Posted 11 Feb 2008 23:03:22 UTC

j2satx,

Did you download the 1.07 mini app symbols file into your ralph project directory? I see an access violation error from one of your computers but do not see any trace information.

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Message 51343 - Posted 11 Feb 2008 23:05:05 UTC - in response to Message ID 51336.

I think the general flavor of things here at R@H is that longer more exhaustive testing should be done at Ralph before the program is released to R@H.
The feeling is that "beta" type work should be done at Ralph and then a fresh named release without "beta" be released on R@H. The feeling as I see it, is that work units and programs are not tested enough before being released here. minirosetta for instance should be deeply tested on Ralph and when it is "complete" and work for that program has been tested deeply and when it is 99% tested with work, then release it here. Don't halfway test it on Ralph and then release it here and then pull it back because there are bugs in it.

"If you aren't going to use Ralph as a "real" test site, why don't you shut it down, conserve those resources and continue to test on Rosetta like you do now."

Ralph is invaluable. We catch many bugs and errors with ralph that would otherwise happen on R@h.


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Message 51344 - Posted 12 Feb 2008 0:44:42 UTC - in response to Message ID 51343.

I didn't pull back the mini tasks because there are bugs in it. I did it in response to user's complaints and the fact that the minirosetta jobs were filling the queue more than expected. Are you talking about the beta in the rosetta application name? We should take that out of the name since it isn't a beta app and is misleading.

I think the general flavor of things here at R@H is that longer more exhaustive testing should be done at Ralph before the program is released to R@H.
The feeling is that "beta" type work should be done at Ralph and then a fresh named release without "beta" be released on R@H. The feeling as I see it, is that work units and programs are not tested enough before being released here. minirosetta for instance should be deeply tested on Ralph and when it is "complete" and work for that program has been tested deeply and when it is 99% tested with work, then release it here. Don't halfway test it on Ralph and then release it here and then pull it back because there are bugs in it.

"If you aren't going to use Ralph as a "real" test site, why don't you shut it down, conserve those resources and continue to test on Rosetta like you do now."

Ralph is invaluable. We catch many bugs and errors with ralph that would otherwise happen on R@h.


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Message 51345 - Posted 12 Feb 2008 0:47:39 UTC - in response to Message ID 51342.

j2satx,

Did you download the 1.07 mini app symbols file into your ralph project directory? I see an access violation error from one of your computers but do not see any trace information.


I downloaded 1.07 to all the computers I had attached to Ralph.

However, now that you mention it........I added many more computers today after I noticed WUs were avail on Ralph and I forgot to download 1.07 to those new computers. I will do that in the next hour.

Might not need it now........all the WUs on Ralph are gone already........!!

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Message 51346 - Posted 12 Feb 2008 0:52:51 UTC - in response to Message ID 51345.
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j2satx,

Did you download the 1.07 mini app symbols file into your ralph project directory? I see an access violation error from one of your computers but do not see any trace information.


I downloaded 1.07 to all the computers I had attached to Ralph.

However, now that you mention it........I added many more computers today after I noticed WUs were avail on Ralph and I forgot to download 1.07 to those new computers. I will do that in the next hour.

Might not need it now........all the WUs on Ralph are gone already........!!



I'll add some more, just let me know when it's best for you.
thanks!

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did this task have the symbols file? It hope it works as expected. I wonder if it needs to be in the slot directory? I don't think it does.
http://ralph.bakerlab.org//result.php?resultid=746732

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Message 51347 - Posted 12 Feb 2008 1:21:22 UTC - in response to Message ID 51346.

j2satx,

Did you download the 1.07 mini app symbols file into your ralph project directory? I see an access violation error from one of your computers but do not see any trace information.


I downloaded 1.07 to all the computers I had attached to Ralph.

However, now that you mention it........I added many more computers today after I noticed WUs were avail on Ralph and I forgot to download 1.07 to those new computers. I will do that in the next hour.

Might not need it now........all the WUs on Ralph are gone already........!!



I'll add some more, just let me know when it's best for you.
thanks!

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did this task have the symbols file? It hope it works as expected. I wonder if it needs to be in the slot directory? I don't think it does.
http://ralph.bakerlab.org//result.php?resultid=746732


I'll check on that result...

I think I have 1.07 on all the Windows machines now.

You can throw a few thousand WUs over the fence right now.

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Message 51348 - Posted 12 Feb 2008 1:29:43 UTC - in response to Message ID 51346.

j2satx,

Did you download the 1.07 mini app symbols file into your ralph project directory? I see an access violation error from one of your computers but do not see any trace information.


I downloaded 1.07 to all the computers I had attached to Ralph.

However, now that you mention it........I added many more computers today after I noticed WUs were avail on Ralph and I forgot to download 1.07 to those new computers. I will do that in the next hour.

Might not need it now........all the WUs on Ralph are gone already........!!



I'll add some more, just let me know when it's best for you.
thanks!

edit:

did this task have the symbols file? It hope it works as expected. I wonder if it needs to be in the slot directory? I don't think it does.
http://ralph.bakerlab.org//result.php?resultid=746732


The computer that ran 746732 was one I added today without adding the 1.07.

It's a dual-core AMD with Windows XP X64.

1.07 was added moments ago.

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Message 51349 - Posted 12 Feb 2008 1:31:14 UTC - in response to Message ID 51348.
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Okay, great. I'll add some more jobs on ralph.

j2satx,

Did you download the 1.07 mini app symbols file into your ralph project directory? I see an access violation error from one of your computers but do not see any trace information.


I downloaded 1.07 to all the computers I had attached to Ralph.

However, now that you mention it........I added many more computers today after I noticed WUs were avail on Ralph and I forgot to download 1.07 to those new computers. I will do that in the next hour.

Might not need it now........all the WUs on Ralph are gone already........!!



I'll add some more, just let me know when it's best for you.
thanks!

edit:

did this task have the symbols file? It hope it works as expected. I wonder if it needs to be in the slot directory? I don't think it does.
http://ralph.bakerlab.org//result.php?resultid=746732


The computer that ran 746732 was one I added today without adding the 1.07.

It's a dual-core AMD with Windows XP X64.

1.07 was added moments ago.

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Message 51350 - Posted 12 Feb 2008 1:52:08 UTC

One thing i noticed on the few tasks i've done is the progress % doesn't

move for the first 20 to 30 min, then jumps up to 5% or so then it

seems fine after that. I guess it could be the type of workunit.

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Message 51352 - Posted 12 Feb 2008 2:59:09 UTC

Depending on where you look on Ralph, there are 6000+ or 10,000+ WUs queued, but I'm getting "no work available" messages.
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Message 51356 - Posted 12 Feb 2008 6:50:23 UTC - in response to Message ID 51329.

I hope this helps. I'm trying to respond to everyones comments and provide useful info.


It does help and it is very much appreciated.

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Message 51357 - Posted 12 Feb 2008 9:09:28 UTC - in response to Message ID 51329.

Here is a comparison of the status reports (note, we are not planning to support PPC macs with mini):


I have been waiting for this information. Now, if we could get some hints whether Rosetta (5.93 or its successors) will still support the PPC platform, or you plan to phase it out in the foreseeable future...

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Message 51358 - Posted 12 Feb 2008 10:56:12 UTC - in response to Message ID 51344.
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..... We should take that out of the name since it isn't a beta app and is misleading.


Please do.
Thanks for the explanation on why you pulled mini back.
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Message 51362 - Posted 12 Feb 2008 17:53:40 UTC - in response to Message ID 51357.

Here is a comparison of the status reports (note, we are not planning to support PPC macs with mini):


I have been waiting for this information. Now, if we could get some hints whether Rosetta (5.93 or its successors) will still support the PPC platform, or you plan to phase it out in the foreseeable future...



We'll still support the PPC platform for the old rosetta app, at least until the PPC macs in our lab die.

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Message 51363 - Posted 12 Feb 2008 17:55:31 UTC - in response to Message ID 51352.

Depending on where you look on Ralph, there are 6000+ or 10,000+ WUs queued, but I'm getting "no work available" messages.


I don't know why when there is plenty of work. Still having issues? maybe a reset will help.

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Message 51373 - Posted 13 Feb 2008 6:18:26 UTC

my Pc works slowly with mini 1.07 ,and the wu fails sometimes.Now,my machine works again 5.93 and all is ok.sorry 4 my traslation.S@ludos from spain

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On Win XP SP2, Boinc 5.10.42, my Rosetta Mini 1.07 score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 task was preempted (and left in memory) after 00:15:35 CPU time, 6.226%, 04:33:13 more to go. It was later resumed after another task finished, but did not continue to crunch, but consumed zero CPU time. I've suspended the task for the time being. ... Few minutes later it ws terminated by the client.

Looking at the logs, the task's history is deeper. It was twice preempted, once restarted because of client upgrade and complained twice on "Task exited with a DLL initialization error. If this happens repeatedly you may need to reboot your computer." (Might be because a reboot is pending here because of finished automatic Windows upgrade un Tuesday?)

09:30:49 [rosetta@home] Starting score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0
09:30:49 [rosetta@home] [cpu_sched] Starting score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 (initial)
09:30:49 [rosetta@home] [task_debug] task_state=EXECUTING for score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 from start
09:30:49 [rosetta@home] Starting task score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 using minirosetta version 107
09:47:09 [rosetta@home] [task_debug] result score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 checkpointed
09:55:53 [---] Exit requested by user
09:55:53 [rosetta@home] [task_debug] task_state=EXITED for score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 from has_task_exited
10:01:34 [---] Starting BOINC client version 5.10.42 for windows_intelx86
10:02:09 [rosetta@home] [cpu_sched] Starting score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0(resume)
10:02:09 [rosetta@home] [task_debug] task_state=EXECUTING for score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 from start
10:02:09 [rosetta@home] Restarting task score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 using minirosetta version 107
(at this moment, ALL tasks exited, I suppose a client error?)
10:03:06 [rosetta@home] [task_debug] Process for score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 exited
10:03:06 [rosetta@home] Task score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 exited with a DLL initialization error.
10:03:06 [rosetta@home] If this happens repeatedly you may need to reboot your computer.
10:03:06 [rosetta@home] [task_debug] task_state=UNINITIALIZED for score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 from handle_exit_external
10:03:06 [rosetta@home] [cpu_sched] Starting score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0(resume)
10:03:06 [rosetta@home] [task_debug] task_state=EXECUTING for score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 from start
10:03:06 [rosetta@home] Restarting task score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 using minirosetta version 107
(at this moment, again ALL tasks exited, I suppose a client error?)
10:07:18 [rosetta@home] [task_debug] Process for score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 exited
10:07:18 [rosetta@home] Task score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 exited with a DLL initialization error.
10:07:18 [rosetta@home] If this happens repeatedly you may need to reboot your computer.
10:07:18 [rosetta@home] [task_debug] task_state=UNINITIALIZED for score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 from handle_exit_external
10:07:18 [rosetta@home] [cpu_sched] Starting score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0(resume)
10:07:18 [rosetta@home] [task_debug] task_state=EXECUTING for score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 from start
10:07:18 [rosetta@home] Restarting task score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 using minirosetta version 107
10:08:16 [rosetta@home] [cpu_sched] Preempting score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 (left in memory)
10:08:16 [rosetta@home] [task_debug] task_state=SUSPENDED for score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 from suspend
14:24:19 [rosetta@home] [cpu_sched] Resuming score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0
14:24:19 [rosetta@home] [task_debug] task_state=EXECUTING for score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 from unsuspend
14:24:19 [rosetta@home] Resuming task score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 using minirosetta version 107
14:56:45 [rosetta@home] [cpu_sched] Preempting score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 (left in memory)
14:56:45 [rosetta@home] [task_debug] task_state=SUSPENDED for score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 from suspend
14:59:45 [---] Restarting score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 - message timeout
14:59:45 [rosetta@home] [task_debug] task_state=UNINITIALIZED for score13_hb_envtest62_A_1ig5A_2908_3409_0 from kill_task


Taking into account how often was the app harmed, I could imagine that the task did not really receive the wake up signal...

Peter

(PS: Should I leave such reports rather on the Ralph site? Or even Alpha list?)

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Message 51406 - Posted 15 Feb 2008 0:37:44 UTC

It finally validated.

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Message 51409 - Posted 15 Feb 2008 4:16:07 UTC

Is the new graphics for miniRosetta going to look the same as the current graphics?

Also, When i leave the graphics on for the current version..when its done with a wu, it closes out the graphics and goes back to my desktop..is there a way to keep the graphics window open while starting another wu?

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Message 51413 - Posted 15 Feb 2008 8:40:12 UTC - in response to Message ID 51409.

Is the new graphics for miniRosetta going to look the same as the current graphics?

Posibly not really the same:
David E K wrote:
1. screen saver. currently under dev using the minirosetta game framework, may even be an optional game where people can compete with computers and each other to design/fold proteins.

Or the same like before, but with an additional enhanced entertainment mode ;-)

When i leave the graphics on for the current version..when its done with a wu, it closes out the graphics and goes back to my desktop..is there a way to keep the graphics window open while starting another wu?

I doubt it. AFTER an app (which was showing graphics) is terminated (with already closed graphics window), THEN Boinc will start another application, which is after some initialization capable of opening a graphics window.

Except that on a multi-core machine, one app showing screensaver is being terminated, and immediately another (already running app) can show its screensaver graphics.

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Message 51414 - Posted 15 Feb 2008 13:35:19 UTC

I have a Rosetta mini on my computer at the moment and unless I abort it then it will probably stay there.
It ran for 4:15:09 (h:m:s) with my preference set to 6 hours, and says it has completed 100% but is still sitting there "Waiting to Run" in Boinc Manager.
I am unable to upload it as B/M thinks it has not finished yet.
Should I just abort it?
This is not a Ralph WU but a Rosetta WU.

I tried for 2 hours to copy the screen shot into this forum post but was unable to do so, no matter what I tried (copy/paste = no go, copy to Word then to forum = no go, copy to Open Office then to forum = no go, copy as HTML document = no go, copy as XML document = this worked but it was in the raw format and could not be viewed), so gave up and have described it instead.




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Message 51415 - Posted 15 Feb 2008 16:27:17 UTC - in response to Message ID 51414.

I have a Rosetta mini on my computer at the moment and unless I abort it then it will probably stay there.
It ran for 4:15:09 (h:m:s) with my preference set to 6 hours, and says it has completed 100% but is still sitting there "Waiting to Run" in Boinc Manager.

Rationale: It hapens occasionally (if it is not some other reason), that application reaches the end of its timeslot (Switch between applications every ... minutes) and should be preempted soon. In such situation the project's ShortTermDebt is usualy already negative. If the app now checkpoints shortly before (or just at) reaching 100%, it is immediately preempted by Boinc client and will silently wait for its next turn (until the STD slowly accumulates to become positive). Depending on the project's resource share, this could take up to one day (or even more?).

I am unable to upload it as B/M thinks it has not finished yet.
Should I just abort it?

No, no need to. Suspend client's network communication, then suspend all other projects and the application should be immediately started and finished soon. After being finished, you can resume the suspended projects and then restore the desired communication state of your client.

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Message 51424 - Posted 16 Feb 2008 17:59:17 UTC

I don't like the Mini WU's because suddenly the credit I recieve for work is at least 5 to 10 times smaller than before. I've cancelled all mini jobs starting with "score13_hb_envtest62". My guess is many PCs "testing" the Mini WU's are probably alot faster than old 2.4G Dual CPU Xeon Machine... so comparing similar tasks my PC won't get a very good score... but still the sudden decrease in perceived productivity on my PC caused me to think there is something wrong with the WU's or there is something wrong with the way credit is granted with respect to those WU's.

Example:
Computer ID: 494454
Task ID: 139520471
Name: score13_hb_envtest62_A_1scjB_2833_1905_0
Workunit: 127066346
Claimed credit 98.9446294668645
Granted credit 5.54573244250427
application version 1.07

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Message 51426 - Posted 16 Feb 2008 19:27:44 UTC - in response to Message ID 51424.

I don't like the Mini WU's because suddenly the credit I recieve for work is at least 5 to 10 times smaller than before. I've cancelled all mini jobs starting with "score13_hb_envtest62". My guess is many PCs "testing" the Mini WU's are probably alot faster than old 2.4G Dual CPU Xeon Machine... so comparing similar tasks my PC won't get a very good score... but still the sudden decrease in perceived productivity on my PC caused me to think there is something wrong with the WU's or there is something wrong with the way credit is granted with respect to those WU's.

Example:
Computer ID: 494454
Task ID: 139520471
Name: score13_hb_envtest62_A_1scjB_2833_1905_0
Workunit: 127066346
Claimed credit 98.9446294668645
Granted credit 5.54573244250427
application version 1.07


I noticed a similar decrease in credit and it killed my RAC. Usually, credit granted is very close to credit claimed. With the Mini apps, the credit granted is ALWAYS lower than the credit claimed.

It is likely due to the fact that the mini application is not yet fully optimized and will improve over time. It would be great to see mini applications optimized for processor type as well.



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Message 51434 - Posted 16 Feb 2008 23:25:25 UTC

My machine is running a WU on Mini 1.07.

On normal Rosetta, I think WUs were usually taking 6 to 10 hours to complete. (Pentium III 550MHz)

Mini 1.07 has taken over 50 hours to go from 99.5% complete to 99.7% complete. During this whole time, it has declared that it has 10 minutes to go.

Should I abort this WU? Is there any useful information that can be gleaned before I do?

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Message 51436 - Posted 17 Feb 2008 5:08:26 UTC - in response to Message ID 51434.

My machine is running a WU on Mini 1.07.

On normal Rosetta, I think WUs were usually taking 6 to 10 hours to complete. (Pentium III 550MHz)

Mini 1.07 has taken over 50 hours to go from 99.5% complete to 99.7% complete. During this whole time, it has declared that it has 10 minutes to go.

Should I abort this WU? Is there any useful information that can be gleaned before I do?


That's too long. Can you archive and compress the slot directory that it is running in and send it to dekim at u.washington.edu? then abort.

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Message 51447 - Posted 17 Feb 2008 15:58:35 UTC

Hi

My system found a virus when downloading data from your site. Here is a
copy of the report issued by the anti-virus NOD-32:

NQENR  €T ô  âYÛ Ð ÞµÁuqÈÕN  http://s r v 3 . b a k e r l a b . o r g / r o s e t t a / d o w n l o a d / m i n i r o s e t t a _ 1 . 0 7 _ w i n d o w s _ i n t e l x 8 6 . e x e p r o b a b l y a v a r i a n t o f W i n 3 2 / S t a t i k a p p l i c a t i o n

Kindly look into this and let me have a feedback..

Thanks

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Message 51448 - Posted 17 Feb 2008 15:58:40 UTC

Hi

My system found a virus when downloading data from your site. Here is a
copy of the report issued by the anti-virus NOD-32:

NQENR  €T ô  âYÛ Ð ÞµÁuqÈÕN  http://s r v 3 . b a k e r l a b . o r g / r o s e t t a / d o w n l o a d / m i n i r o s e t t a _ 1 . 0 7 _ w i n d o w s _ i n t e l x 8 6 . e x e p r o b a b l y a v a r i a n t o f W i n 3 2 / S t a t i k a p p l i c a t i o n

Kindly look into this and let me have a feedback..

Thanks

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Message 51449 - Posted 17 Feb 2008 16:25:56 UTC - in response to Message ID 51447.

Hi

My system found a virus when downloading data from your site. Here is a
copy of the report issued by the anti-virus NOD-32:

NQENR  €T ô  âYÛ Ð ÞµÁuqÈÕN  http://s r v 3 . b a k e r l a b . o r g / r o s e t t a / d o w n l o a d / m i n i r o s e t t a _ 1 . 0 7 _ w i n d o w s _ i n t e l x 8 6 . e x e p r o b a b l y a v a r i a n t o f W i n 3 2 / S t a t i k a p p l i c a t i o n

Kindly look into this and let me have a feedback..

Thanks

Ganesh

Hi Ganesh

No need to worry - it's not a virus - it's a false-positive (NOD mis-identifies it):
NOD32 3 says Virus in file!
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Message 51452 - Posted 17 Feb 2008 18:24:36 UTC

Sadly I have to stop running Rosetta. I am getting way too much grief from MiniRosetta vs NOD32. Ill keep running Ralph on one system and wait until this gets sorted out, and then I shall return. I'm disappointed in the response that has allowed this application to migrate and/or continue on Rosetta when this issue was identified on Ralph and not addressed. Reminds me of Predictor@Home.
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Message 51454 - Posted 17 Feb 2008 19:09:09 UTC - in response to Message ID 51452.
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Sadly I have to stop running Rosetta. I am getting way too much grief from MiniRosetta vs NOD32. Ill keep running Ralph on one system and wait until this gets sorted out, and then I shall return. I'm disappointed in the response that has allowed this application to migrate and/or continue on Rosetta when this issue was identified on Ralph and not addressed. Reminds me of Predictor@Home.

I agree - there are too many computers on Rosetta that shouldn't be having errors. Maybe Ralph should be a lot bigger using the more closely monitored PCs that have more knowledgeable users and Rosetta should be for mass production jobs where the results are being tested rather than the methodology... A 1% problem on a project of this size with this much throughput per computer is still a pretty big problem!
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Message 51457 - Posted 17 Feb 2008 19:59:07 UTC - in response to Message ID 51415.

I have a Rosetta mini on my computer at the moment and unless I abort it then it will probably stay there.
It ran for 4:15:09 (h:m:s) with my preference set to 6 hours, and says it has completed 100% but is still sitting there "Waiting to Run" in Boinc Manager.

It hapens occasionally, that application reaches the end of its timeslot. If the app now checkpoints shortly before (or just at) reaching 100%, it is immediately preempted by Boinc client and will silently wait for its next turn.

I am unable to upload it as B/M thinks it has not finished yet.
Should I just abort it?

No, no need to. Suspend client's network communication, then suspend all other projects and the application should be immediately started and finished soon.

I've just got one too (on Ralph) ;-)

After suspending other tasks, it finished immediately :-)

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Message 51461 - Posted 17 Feb 2008 23:00:35 UTC - in response to Message ID 51289.

hope this helps

log from NOD32:
2/9/2008 5:58:05 PM
HTTP filter
file
http://srv4.bakerlab.org/rosetta/download/minirosetta_1.07_windows_intelx86.exe
probably a variant of Win32/Statik application
connection terminated - quarantined
<pc name>\<user>
Threat was detected upon access to web by the application: C:\Program Files\BOINC\boinc.exe.

Boinc ver. 5.10.30
NOD32 ver. 3.0.551.0
Virus sig. 2861 (20080209)
WinXP SP2

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Message 51463 - Posted 17 Feb 2008 23:04:48 UTC - in response to Message ID 51289.

Hi,
I just wanted to add that nod 32 is giving the same error here. I am running Windows vista 64 bit edition. Here is a copy of the log from NOD 32.

2/14/2008 8:03:38 PM HTTP filter file http://srv1.bakerlab.org/rosetta/download/minirosetta_1.07_windows_x86_64.exe probably a variant of Win32/Statik application connection terminated - quarantined Bird-Land\Todd admin Threat was detected upon access to web by the application: C:\Program Files\BOINC\boinc.exe.


Thanks,
Todd







hope this helps

log from NOD32:
2/9/2008 5:58:05 PM
HTTP filter
file
http://srv4.bakerlab.org/rosetta/download/minirosetta_1.07_windows_intelx86.exe
probably a variant of Win32/Statik application
connection terminated - quarantined
<pc name>\<user>
Threat was detected upon access to web by the application: C:\Program Files\BOINC\boinc.exe.

Boinc ver. 5.10.30
NOD32 ver. 3.0.551.0
Virus sig. 2861 (20080209)
WinXP SP2

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Message 51464 - Posted 17 Feb 2008 23:52:00 UTC

I have three dead work units from minirosetta on my Linux box (Ubuntu 7.10) running BOINC v 5.10.8. all three stopped (waiting to run) at approximately 59 min 44 seconds into the run (13.61 to 14.78% complete). since they download worked with every other run being a minirosetta it is completing one, running for about an hour on the minirosetta - does not say in the messages that it is stopping for a reason, just shows that it is starting the next work unit. stan

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Message 51465 - Posted 18 Feb 2008 0:05:50 UTC

Forgot to mention that I run an AMD 4000 dual core, 64 bit, 64 bit Ubuntu, with 1 gB of ram. I tried the start / stop / suspend project / suspend task / stop network activity, etc. When it started back up it went to the regular Rosetta work unit that it was working on in the first place - the other three are still "waiting to run" with just under an hour on the clock.
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Message 51466 - Posted 18 Feb 2008 0:07:18 UTC

:-( I run RAlph at a high rescorce share on a number of machines where its not critical if they hang or crash, Rosetta I liked to put on Peoples machines because its stable and has a nice screensaver, I wish I was visiting RAlph forum to because of a hung testbed, instead of seeing I'm part of a 3% failure rate :-(
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Message 51467 - Posted 18 Feb 2008 0:30:03 UTC

Sorry, shuda checked all this before I originally posted. I check previous good results - so far only one on the linux box has completed out of 4. these just started showing up. I have one on my Windows XP box that just finished and uploaded without problem after 2 hrs 35 minutes. this is a 64 bit system running a Windows XP home 32 bit edition - BOINC is 5.4.11. stan
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Message 51470 - Posted 18 Feb 2008 5:49:54 UTC

I have noticed on both Ralph and Rosetta that ALL "mini" type Work Units only get about one third (1/3) of the credit I usually get on either project.

The other types of work units are ok just the "mini/score" ones and only with Windows.
All is OK on Linux for the points granted on the same WU type.
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Message 51478 - Posted 18 Feb 2008 13:19:05 UTC

Hi, during the work Antivirus Nod32 intercected mini_rosetta like a virus.
In the message i find:
18/02/2008 14.06.58|rosetta@home|Started download of minirosetta_1.07_windows_intelx86.exe
18/02/2008 14.06.58|rosetta@home|Started download of minirosetta_database_rev20412.zip
18/02/2008 14.08.21|rosetta@home|Task CFR_034_V9_2842_8604_0 exited with a DLL initialization error.
18/02/2008 14.08.21|rosetta@home|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reboot your computer.
18/02/2008 14.08.21|rosetta@home|Restarting task CFR_034_V9_2842_8604_0 using rosetta_beta version 593
18/02/2008 14.08.31|rosetta@home|Finished download of minirosetta_1.07_windows_intelx86.exe

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Message 51481 - Posted 18 Feb 2008 13:49:42 UTC
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read this message from DEKwhere he says norton is making it a false positive.
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Message 51482 - Posted 18 Feb 2008 13:50:05 UTC
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ooops sorry
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Message 51483 - Posted 18 Feb 2008 16:04:07 UTC

Is it possible that minirosetta is incompatable with older boinc managers or when running as a service? My home machine runs boinc as a service and my office machine runs boinc as a user. The home machine has the 5.4 manager and the office maching is running 5.10.

I got my first minirosetta unit at home. It would not start running and would not terminate from task manager nor allow me to launch any new programs. I could not log off or restart. I had to suspend the unit and then pull the plug for the computer. I checked the office and the minirosetta units seem to be processing fine.

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Message 51489 - Posted 18 Feb 2008 21:06:23 UTC

New user here who only used v5.93 a few days before minirosetta 1.07 came down. I was going to post to say progress wasn't moving at all, but just as I was about to post it jumped up by 18.xx% then stuck again. It doesn't tick up in the way I was seeing with v5.93 - just big jumps.

Also, using Norton 360 here. No false positives about viruses (Norton actually has the best record of all AVs on that score)

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Message 51493 - Posted 19 Feb 2008 1:38:29 UTC

Back again - all minirosetta work units working well on WinXP machine - no problem with AVG anti-virus. Five minirosetta work units have now hung on the Linux box - all of them at just under the hour mark. stan
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Message 51494 - Posted 19 Feb 2008 1:57:49 UTC

Noted that the 5 work units hung at just under an hour were all the "score13_hb_envtest62_A_lcg5B_xxxx" series -don't know if there is a pattern here, but I will watch it. Also noted is that I had my preferences on this computer set to switch between projects at 60 minutes. It has never switched, but thought I would change it to 120 minutes to test if that has an effect on the fail rate. also, anyone want to explain what I am supposed to do to these - they don't seem to want to start back up again after a suspend. stan

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Message 51498 - Posted 19 Feb 2008 10:02:50 UTC

after a few hours that the mini-rosette client runs, the computer gets stuck and I must manually restart it.

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Message 51531 - Posted 21 Feb 2008 1:42:37 UTC

This WU=141716683 completed *1* decoy in 50,720 seconds (~14 hours). The WU was immediately tagged finished given that 2 decoys would have taken approx. 28 hours and my time limit for each WU is 24 hours. I'm not sure if this is a problem but it seems very strange to me.
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Message 51537 - Posted 21 Feb 2008 10:38:05 UTC
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My last few tasks! AMD 4800 dual core, W.XP.
141703246 129097012 18 Feb 2008 7:52:50 UTC 21 Feb 2008 8:14:14 UTC Over Success Done 8,955.58 37.50 23.35
141702622 129056759 18 Feb 2008 7:48:40 UTC 21 Feb 2008 6:48:22 UTC Over Success Done 12,047.23 50.45 35.71
141680190 129076351 18 Feb 2008 5:28:00 UTC 21 Feb 2008 6:48:22 UTC Over Success Done 11,533.53 48.30 35.71
141661569 129059218 18 Feb 2008 3:22:49 UTC 21 Feb 2008 4:07:42 UTC Over Success Done 7,383.70 30.92 16.47
141648691 129047997 18 Feb 2008 1:58:54 UTC 21 Feb 2008 0:27:22 UTC Over Success Done 10,625.06 44.49 31.64
141640562 129040790 18 Feb 2008 1:04:43 UTC 20 Feb 2008 23:48:57 UTC Over Success Done 10,178.97 42.62 29.26
141629359 129030416 17 Feb 2008 23:50:28 UTC 20 Feb 2008 21:14:11 UTC Over Success Done 10,408.38 43.59 30.87
141628647 129029811 17 Feb 2008 23:46:19 UTC 20 Feb 2008 16:51:08 UTC Over Success Done 7,252.38 30.37 19.48
141620134 128909880 17 Feb 2008 22:50:23 UTC 20 Feb 2008 16:51:08 UTC Over Success Done 8,741.13 36.60 24.68
141619408 129021418 17 Feb 2008 22:46:13 UTC 20 Feb 2008 16:51:08 UTC Over Success Done 13,753.23 57.59 41.11

All are Mini tasks..

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Message 51556 - Posted 22 Feb 2008 7:37:06 UTC

Hi

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=141445600
http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=139389351
http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=139323708

Could someone tell me why i have this errors?

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Message 51820 - Posted 5 Mar 2008 21:22:58 UTC

today my boinc get to monirosetta.. but i cant see graphics (by screensaver i have only boinc logo and text runing rosetta...) how can i go back to old rosetta?
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Message 51821 - Posted 5 Mar 2008 22:14:54 UTC - in response to Message ID 51820.
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today my boinc get to monirosetta.. but i cant see graphics (by screensaver i have only boinc logo and text runing rosetta...) how can i go back to old rosetta?


Try this explanation

From the above link

the new version of rosetta is extremely powerful, but as it is very new, there are still some rare problems surfacing, and some of the bells and whistles, such as the screensaver, are not yet in place.

Other "older" applications (Rosetta Beta 5.93 / Rosetta 5.82) are still in the mix so just abort the mini's or just let them run through to completion, your choice.
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Message 51822 - Posted 5 Mar 2008 22:19:31 UTC - in response to Message ID 51821.

Try this explanation

From the above link

the new version of rosetta is extremely powerful, but as it is very new, there are still some rare problems surfacing, and some of the bells and whistles, such as the screensaver, are not yet in place.

Other "older" applications (Rosetta Beta 5.93 / Rosetta 5.82) are still in the mix so just abort the mini's or just let them run through to completion, your choice.
thx... =)

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Message 51823 - Posted 5 Mar 2008 22:49:01 UTC

out of curiosity, what's the minirosetta database file?
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Message 51834 - Posted 7 Mar 2008 9:57:50 UTC

When rosetta beta was replaced by minirosetta I counted 42 failed tasks (and 0 success) with "maximum memory exceed" error.
I hope this errors are just temporary effect and soon they will be fixed.

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Message 51845 - Posted 7 Mar 2008 19:44:21 UTC
Last modified: 7 Mar 2008 19:48:04 UTC

Task ID 145897568
Name score12_hb_envtest62_A_1tig__2935_19641_0
Workunit 133002633
Created 5 Mar 2008 18:28:56 UTC
Sent 5 Mar 2008 18:29:28 UTC
Received 7 Mar 2008 19:29:34 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Client error
Client state Compute error
Exit status 1 (0x1)
Computer ID 735230
Report deadline 15 Mar 2008 18:29:28 UTC
CPU time 2055.751


stderr out

<core_client_version>5.10.30</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Incorrect function. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
Graphics are disabled due to configuration...
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
Graphics are disabled due to configuration...
Graphics are disabled due to configuration...
error: cannot delete old ./minirosetta_database/scoring/weights/dna.wts
error: cannot delete old ./minirosetta_database/scoring/weights/beta_soft_rep.wts
error: cannot delete old ./minirosetta_database/scoring/weights/gen_born.wts
error: cannot delete old ./minirosetta_database/scoring/weights/ligand_soft_rep_gen_born.wts
error: cannot delete old ./minirosetta_database/scoring/weights/score5.wts

ERROR: Unable to open weights. Neither ./score5 nor minirosetta_database\scoring/weights/score5.wtsexist
ERROR:: Exit from: ..\..\src\core\scoring\ScoreFunctionFactory.cc line: 57
called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>

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application version 1.07

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Message 51846 - Posted 7 Mar 2008 19:49:31 UTC

Not sure what happened with these two tasks>

Task ID 145928336
Name score12_hb_envtest62_A_1a19A_2935_24190_0
Workunit 133029909
Created 5 Mar 2008 21:34:09 UTC
Sent 5 Mar 2008 21:34:50 UTC
Received 7 Mar 2008 19:38:37 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Client error
Client state Compute error
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 735230
Report deadline 15 Mar 2008 21:34:50 UTC
CPU time 12.98438
stderr out

<core_client_version>5.10.30</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Graphics are disabled due to configuration...
Graphics are disabled due to configuration...
Graphics are disabled due to configuration...
No heartbeat from core client for 30 sec - exiting
Graphics are disabled due to configuration...
Graphics are disabled due to configuration...
Too many restarts with no progress. Keep application in memory while preempted.
======================================================
DONE :: 1 starting structures 12.3906 cpu seconds
This process generated 0 decoys from 0 attempts
======================================================


BOINC :: BOINC support services shutting down...
called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
<message>
<file_xfer_error>
<file_name>score12_hb_envtest62_A_1a19A_2935_24190_0_0</file_name>
<error_code>-161</error_code>
</file_xfer_error>

</message>
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Granted credit 0
application version 1.07

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Message 51849 - Posted 7 Mar 2008 23:48:13 UTC

I noticed I'm getting more Mini jobs..how far out is a graphics version? Any time lines?

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Message 51852 - Posted 8 Mar 2008 9:31:55 UTC - in response to Message ID 51849.

I noticed I'm getting more Mini jobs..how far out is a graphics version? Any time lines?

Mini with graphic(simple) is just on RAPLH in testing...

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Message 51854 - Posted 8 Mar 2008 13:59:27 UTC

Re msg 51846 &51845.
Just realised that at the time these two tasks were running I was attacked by -MONARONADONA-.
Tech support at my ISP had to intervene and run their own cleaner, hopefully am now clean.

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Message 52069 - Posted 21 Mar 2008 22:33:10 UTC

Just noticed three of my herd had stopped responding. Checked and found them stuck on MiniRosetta 1.07/1.09s, with either zero percent of job completed (after several days of elapsed), or stuck at 2-4% (again after several days).

Aborted WUs are: 132872148, 133115230, and 135200312. The machines are all dual-CPU Xeons, Win2K Server.

Unfortunately I don't have time to chase this thread right now ... If there is some action I need to take for a fix can somebody point me at the details?

Thanks,
Alan

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Message 52358 - Posted 10 Apr 2008 10:10:44 UTC

What happened to Mini? I had hundreds of WUs a few weeks ago and now I have none. Did mini go back to Ralph for a while? When should we expect to see it again?
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Message 52361 - Posted 10 Apr 2008 11:00:56 UTC - in response to Message ID 52358.

What happened to Mini? I had hundreds of WUs a few weeks ago and now I have none. Did mini go back to Ralph for a while? When should we expect to see it again?

Minis 1.10 indeed started on Ralph just a few days ago.

Peter

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Message 52818 - Posted 1 May 2008 7:56:31 UTC

Over the last 3 weeks or so, I have noticed that minirosetta WUs are taking 12 to 13 hours to complete. Previously, it had been running at around 3 hours. But I've been keeping them going.

Then, this week, they have all started to fail. To try to solve the problem, I have uninstalled BOINC, deleted BOINC folders from the system and completely reinstalled/reattached. Sadly, I am still getting the same pattern of errors.

Each download from Rosetta gives a similar set of error messages, e.g.:
01/05/08 08:40:45||Starting BOINC client version 5.10.45 for windows_intelx86
01/05/08 08:40:45||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
01/05/08 08:40:45||Libraries: libcurl/7.18.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
01/05/08 08:40:45||Data directory: C:\PROGRAM FILES\BOINC
01/05/08 08:40:45||Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Pentium(r) III Processor [Pentium(r) III Processor]
01/05/08 08:40:45||Processor features: fpu sse mmx
01/05/08 08:40:45||OS: Microsoft Windows 98: SE, (04.10.2222.00)
01/05/08 08:40:45||Memory: 127.31 MB physical, 1.88 GB virtual
01/05/08 08:40:45||Disk: 12.11 GB total, 8.40 GB free
01/05/08 08:40:45||Local time is UTC +1 hours
01/05/08 08:40:45||No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
01/05/08 08:40:45||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 63.65MB
01/05/08 08:40:45||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 114.58MB
01/05/08 08:40:45||Preferences limit disk usage to 6.06GB
01/05/08 08:40:46||This computer is not attached to any projects
01/05/08 08:40:46||Visit http://boinc.berkeley.edu for instructions
01/05/08 08:41:40||Fetching configuration file from http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/get_project_config.php
01/05/08 08:42:46||Running CPU benchmarks
01/05/08 08:42:46||Suspending computation - running CPU benchmarks
01/05/08 08:42:52|rosetta@home|Master file download succeeded
01/05/08 08:42:57|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: Project initialization. Requesting 1 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
01/05/08 08:43:02|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
01/05/08 08:43:02||General prefs: from http://climateprediction.net/ (last modified 06-Nov-2007 22:32:54)
01/05/08 08:43:02||Host location: none
01/05/08 08:43:02||General prefs: using your defaults
01/05/08 08:43:02||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 63.65MB
01/05/08 08:43:02||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 114.58MB
01/05/08 08:43:02||Preferences limit disk usage to 8.31GB
01/05/08 08:43:03|rosetta@home|Started download of minirosetta_1.15_windows_intelx86.exe
01/05/08 08:43:03|rosetta@home|Started download of minirosetta_graphics_1.15_windows_intelx86.exe
01/05/08 08:43:11|rosetta@home|Finished download of minirosetta_1.15_windows_intelx86.exe
01/05/08 08:43:11|rosetta@home|Finished download of minirosetta_graphics_1.15_windows_intelx86.exe
01/05/08 08:43:11|rosetta@home|Started download of Helvetica.txf
01/05/08 08:43:11|rosetta@home|Started download of minirosetta_database_rev21566.zip
01/05/08 08:43:15|rosetta@home|Finished download of Helvetica.txf
01/05/08 08:43:15|rosetta@home|Started download of boinc_vf_aa1lis_03_05.200_v1_3.gz
01/05/08 08:43:20||Benchmark results:
01/05/08 08:43:20|| Number of CPUs: 1
01/05/08 08:43:20|| 311 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
01/05/08 08:43:20|| 520 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
01/05/08 08:43:21||Resuming computation
01/05/08 08:43:23|rosetta@home|Finished download of boinc_vf_aa1lis_03_05.200_v1_3.gz
01/05/08 08:43:23|rosetta@home|Started download of boinc_vf_aa1lis_13_05.200_v1_3.gz
01/05/08 08:43:45|rosetta@home|Finished download of boinc_vf_aa1lis_13_05.200_v1_3.gz
01/05/08 08:43:45|rosetta@home|Started download of boinc_vf_aa1lis_06_05.200_v1_3.gz
01/05/08 08:43:58|rosetta@home|Finished download of boinc_vf_aa1lis_06_05.200_v1_3.gz
01/05/08 08:43:58|rosetta@home|Started download of vf_1lis.pdb.gz
01/05/08 08:43:59|rosetta@home|Finished download of vf_1lis.pdb.gz
01/05/08 08:44:55|rosetta@home|Finished download of minirosetta_database_rev21566.zip
01/05/08 08:44:57|rosetta@home|Starting 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0
01/05/08 08:44:57|rosetta@home|Starting task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 using minirosetta version 115
01/05/08 08:45:00|rosetta@home|Task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 exited with a DLL initialization error.
01/05/08 08:45:00|rosetta@home|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reboot your computer.
01/05/08 08:45:00|rosetta@home|Restarting task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 using minirosetta version 115
01/05/08 08:45:03|rosetta@home|Task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 exited with a DLL initialization error.
01/05/08 08:45:03|rosetta@home|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reboot your computer.
01/05/08 08:45:03|rosetta@home|Restarting task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 using minirosetta version 115
01/05/08 08:45:05|rosetta@home|Task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 exited with a DLL initialization error.
01/05/08 08:45:05|rosetta@home|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reboot your computer.
01/05/08 08:45:05|rosetta@home|Restarting task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 using minirosetta version 115
01/05/08 08:45:08|rosetta@home|Task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 exited with a DLL initialization error.
01/05/08 08:45:08|rosetta@home|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reboot your computer.
01/05/08 08:45:08|rosetta@home|Restarting task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 using minirosetta version 115
01/05/08 08:45:12|rosetta@home|Task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 exited with a DLL initialization error.
01/05/08 08:45:12|rosetta@home|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reboot your computer.
01/05/08 08:45:12|rosetta@home|Restarting task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 using minirosetta version 115
01/05/08 08:45:15|rosetta@home|Task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 exited with a DLL initialization error.
01/05/08 08:45:15|rosetta@home|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reboot your computer.
01/05/08 08:45:15|rosetta@home|Restarting task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 using minirosetta version 115
01/05/08 08:45:17|rosetta@home|Task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 exited with a DLL initialization error.
01/05/08 08:45:17|rosetta@home|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reboot your computer.
01/05/08 08:45:17|rosetta@home|Restarting task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 using minirosetta version 115
01/05/08 08:45:19|rosetta@home|Task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 exited with a DLL initialization error.
01/05/08 08:45:19|rosetta@home|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reboot your computer.
01/05/08 08:45:19|rosetta@home|Restarting task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 using minirosetta version 115
01/05/08 08:45:21|rosetta@home|Task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 exited with a DLL initialization error.
01/05/08 08:45:21|rosetta@home|If this happens repeatedly you may need to reboot your computer.
01/05/08 08:45:21|rosetta@home|Restarting task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 using minirosetta version 115

This keeps going forever, downloading a new WU and cycling through this error sequence until it fails (or I abort), then starting all over again.

I'm running this application on Windows 98SE (dedicated to Rosetta).

Rgds

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Message 52822 - Posted 1 May 2008 16:27:01 UTC - in response to Message ID 52818.

hi Lockleys,

have a look at the minirosetta v.1.15 thread adjacent where a couple of us have reported failure on the mini app. with the old win98 platform - although with somewhat different symptoms. /pg

Over the last 3 weeks or so, I have noticed that minirosetta WUs are taking 12 to 13 hours to complete. Previously, it had been running at around 3 hours. But I've been keeping them going.

Then, this week, they have all started to fail. To try to solve the problem, I have uninstalled BOINC, deleted BOINC folders from the system and completely reinstalled/reattached. Sadly, I am still getting the same pattern of errors.

Each download from Rosetta gives a similar set of error messages, e.g.:
01/05/08 08:40:45||Starting BOINC client version 5.10.45 for windows_intelx86
01/05/08 08:40:45||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
:
: >>snip<<
:
01/05/08 08:45:21|rosetta@home|Restarting task 1lis__BOINC_ABRELAX_IGNORE_THE_REST-S25-13-S3-6--1lis_-_3114_13_0 using minirosetta version 115

This keeps going forever, downloading a new WU and cycling through this error sequence until it fails (or I abort), then starting all over again.

I'm running this application on Windows 98SE (dedicated to Rosetta).

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Message 52828 - Posted 2 May 2008 1:53:31 UTC

I too have had issues with minirosetta 1.15 the past 2 days now. On 2 of my 3 computers, it doesn't even start (meaning its taking up a cpu, and I have to manually cancel it)


Suspending and restarting, even rebooting does not help, therefor I have cancelled all of my minirosetta jobs on those 2 computers so I can help out with beta 5.96 at least. Sorry

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Message 52833 - Posted 2 May 2008 12:14:29 UTC
Last modified: 2 May 2008 12:25:23 UTC

Moved the post to the "minirosetta v1.15 bug thread"

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Message 57182 - Posted 23 Nov 2008 11:40:03 UTC

new minirosetta 1.4
I have same trouble.
Just all the units that I've computed and uploaded after the release change were signed as "compute error" and just for this project not others (like QMC).

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