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Darrell Send message Joined: 28 Sep 06 Posts: 25 Credit: 51,934,631 RAC: 0 |
Perhaps this is a known error, but I am frequently seeing "Ready to report" on all the work units, but none being reported and no new units fetched. When I manually update, they get reported, and sometime new units download. Other times I receive this: 7/12/2016 11:51:44 AM | rosetta@home | Reporting 25 completed tasks 7/12/2016 11:51:44 AM | rosetta@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU and Intel GPU 7/12/2016 11:51:50 AM | rosetta@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks 7/12/2016 11:51:50 AM | rosetta@home | No work sent 7/12/2016 11:51:50 AM | rosetta@home | Rosetta Mini for Android is not available for your type of computer. Any help would be appreciated if I am configured incorrectly somehow, or a fix in the system would be better. Running Windows 7, 8.1 fully patched. |
Wiktor Jezioro | lakewik.pl Send message Joined: 22 Feb 15 Posts: 4 Credit: 24,056,394 RAC: 0 |
I have the same problem ): Rosetta Mini for Android is not available for your type of computer. Some of my computers is bored. If it not repaired I'll have to switch to another project, but the purpose of this project is very important for me PS: Sorry for my English |
Dr. Merkwürdigliebe Send message Joined: 5 Dec 10 Posts: 81 Credit: 2,657,273 RAC: 0 |
Dear admins & project scientists, with all due respect, for Pete's sake, please discontinue this nonsensical smartphone/tablet support. You' re running an otherwise respectable HPC project. Crunching on smartphones? Really??? It's causing nothing but trouble. |
[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1994 Credit: 9,623,704 RAC: 7,594 |
Crunching on smartphones? Really??? I wrote it A LOT of times. An admin says to me that "android world is growing". That's true, but performances of ARM/Raspberry/etc will be "good" in a REMOTE future and Ssex/Avx performance are here NOW. |
robertmiles Send message Joined: 16 Jun 08 Posts: 1232 Credit: 14,281,662 RAC: 1,402 |
I have ten completed tasks, with six of them due tomorrow, and some have been sitting in my queue for over 24 hours trying to upload. It looks like the project is trying to persuade users to support other projects instead by not fixing the long delays before clients can contact the server again. |
sinspin Send message Joined: 30 Jan 06 Posts: 29 Credit: 6,574,585 RAC: 0 |
I had it mentioned some weeks ago, they are lazy. However, we are not lazy, we press the refresh button in the Boinc Manager until we get some work! They are also not more able to publish some information about active workunits or results or still server problems. |
Scott Send message Joined: 11 Apr 16 Posts: 3 Credit: 12,136,183 RAC: 0 |
Pending credit over 40k, doesn't appear to have reported since Tuesday. This project has been very unstable since 7/10. |
Chilean Send message Joined: 16 Oct 05 Posts: 711 Credit: 26,694,507 RAC: 0 |
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BarryAZ Send message Joined: 27 Dec 05 Posts: 153 Credit: 30,843,285 RAC: 0 |
I guess is that the processors are overloaded with all the android / smartphone..... stuff ..... that the project has put in play. This change does seem to have created havoc. It also might cause a bit of end user shift over to other projects which are not in overwhelmed mode. I suspect it is all of a piece at Rosetta 1) The explosion of credit pendings. 2) The frequent 24 hour back offs when trying to report work 3) The lack of available work for the very large 'old style' user workstations. For me the approach has been a change currently for 'no new work' with Rosetta and a shift over to WorldGrid, PrimeGrid, and POEM. (Projects I have long worked with). For me, I support an array of projects and when one goes into moribund mode and then dies (as Spinhenge did some years ago), or one makes a choice to redirect out of the shared computing world (as Malaria has done this year), or one chooses to try to tap a different universe of processing power thus resulting is serious issues for old school users (which is where Rosetta appears to be at the moment), I get to shift to other projects. |
[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1994 Credit: 9,623,704 RAC: 7,594 |
No work on Rosetta's queue. Ralph is down. No admins in forum. It's August (and there is CASP and RosettaCon is just finished) :-P |
Jim1348 Send message Joined: 19 Jan 06 Posts: 881 Credit: 52,257,545 RAC: 0 |
It is a bit spotty. I picked up a couple of tasks at 11:16 UTC, but then nothing for a few hours and one core was running on empty. However, I just received a couple more. So it seems they are still recovering from whatever problem they had earlier today. |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2125 Credit: 41,228,659 RAC: 8,784 |
New UsersHosts are now running at around 5000 per day, so it's not much of a surprise Total Queued Jobs on the home page read 0, and on the Server Status page, just 3145 tasks are ready to send while 338,200 tasks are being reported as complete in the last 24hrs. 5 of the highest ever days for reporting results have come this month, so it seems tasks are being issued as fast as they can - they're just all getting gobbled up. It's very hard to grab any of the tasks made available each day, 24hr back-offs are beginning to pop up again and there haven't been any Android tasks at all that I've noticed recently. My PCs are frequently grabbing tasks for my back-up projects, indicating Rosetta is leaving a certain amount of processing capability on the table. I appreciate this is a different issue for Rosetta than it is for users. For the project, more tasks than ever are being issued, processed and returned than ever before, so in that sense it's a tremendous success. For users it's unsurprising to see the level of frustration about the difficulty of contributing as much as we want to. Either a success or a crisis, depending on your standpoint. Or both. Is it possible to make some kind of statement on whether this situation will continue in the short or medium term? Is there any kind of roadmap for resolution of this conflict? Or are users better off making semi-permanent alternative arrangements with other projects until the resources can be gathered for the situation to change in a way that's a bit more than patch and mend. Matters do seem to have come to a head recently in a way they haven't before. |
Jim1348 Send message Joined: 19 Jan 06 Posts: 881 Credit: 52,257,545 RAC: 0 |
Is it possible to make some kind of statement on whether this situation will continue in the short or medium term? Is there any kind of roadmap for resolution of this conflict? Or are users better off making semi-permanent alternative arrangements with other projects until the resources can be gathered for the situation to change in a way that's a bit more than patch and mend. All good points. I just changed over my Rosetta machine from Windows 10 to Ubuntu 16.04 for increased efficiency, but couldn't pick up any tasks. Maybe it is just the overall shortage, and not specific to Linux, but it would be helpful to know. |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2125 Credit: 41,228,659 RAC: 8,784 |
Is it possible to make some kind of statement on whether this situation will continue in the short or medium term? Is there any kind of roadmap for resolution of this conflict? Or are users better off making semi-permanent alternative arrangements with other projects until the resources can be gathered for the situation to change in a way that's a bit more than patch and mend. I'm seeing no tasks available on the front page, nor the Server Status page, but supposedly 2million tasks in progress (now 2.7 million). I've had no tasks for 28 hours on one machine - all completed, none for 44 hours on another, all completed, and none for 35 hours on my main PC, where I'm able to eke them out a little closer. Who's getting these 2.7 million tasks? I haven't had a sniff of one, let alone a full buffer. |
[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1994 Credit: 9,623,704 RAC: 7,594 |
Who's getting these 2.7 million tasks? I haven't had a sniff of one, let alone a full buffer. I think is "casual" number. Yesterday the number passed from 1m to 2m in only 1h with no wu in queue :-O Now there are 18k wus in queue but continue "got 0 new task" |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2125 Credit: 41,228,659 RAC: 8,784 |
Who's getting these 2.7 million tasks? I haven't had a sniff of one, let alone a full buffer. I'm not staking my life on the accuracy of the number, but it must be some reflection of how many's out there. To be fair, I've had a batch of 3 on my laptop and 3 batches of 6 on my main PC in the last 12 hours so something's getting through, but it's like getting blood out of a stone recently... |
[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1994 Credit: 9,623,704 RAC: 7,594 |
VERY slow download. VERY slow upload. Waiting for better moments |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2125 Credit: 41,228,659 RAC: 8,784 |
Well, we had a nice bunch of tasks come down to fill our buffers, but that seems to have come to an end after a day or two already. Fingers crossed again |
[VENETO] boboviz Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1994 Credit: 9,623,704 RAC: 7,594 |
Fingers crossed again Now seems to be more consistent... |
Jim1348 Send message Joined: 19 Jan 06 Posts: 881 Credit: 52,257,545 RAC: 0 |
I am now getting them with no problems on my Linux machine. But I will always keep another project (e.g., WCG) going too. |
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