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A Challenge
(Message 25088)
Posted 27 Aug 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: This to David Baker It seems you have a No Win situation here #1 you can not take away the points given in the past for the members that used opt. clients because is was said it was said by your staff that it was not against Rosetta's rules to do so #2 If you do not reduce the past points the other 1/2 will feel they have been cheated. And will be mad at Rosetta for saying it was OK to use the opt. clients So you (Rosetta) are in a No win situation here Here is one thing you might consider to end this mater #1 End Rosetta close the points #2 Start Rosetta 2 with a new secure client that is run on the new point system and lets all start all over again This post was from the call of carl.h for "O.k. guys...Positive input only. That means no tearing the other guys post. |
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(Message 18890)
Posted 18 Jun 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: Man I am so sorely tempted to recruit you for my team :) and so would any team. seems like your a Day late and 2500 points short |
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(Message 18760)
Posted 16 Jun 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: Thanks Mod9 that helped a little I think Computer code always make my eyes go Cross eyed |
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Is this for real???
(Message 18753)
Posted 16 Jun 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: I find it hard to believe that Rosetta or Boinc can make the point system in place now a fair and even field, way to Manny clients, OS's, and type CPUs , conch's, And Hyper Overclocking to deal with. Back to my original Question about RAC How can a member get a Rac that is 8X his total points I might be slow but I am having trouble understanding how the RAC is formulated I know it is not of any real value here. But I do like to understand how things work |
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(Message 18729)
Posted 15 Jun 2006 by Laurenu2 Post:
Jochen Can I ask how old your FX-60 system IS ? Do you use the system at all? Do you have any firewall, anti Virus running? Do you use that FX-60 for anything except crunching Rosetta? This computer is brand new and has both cores working ONLY Rose The OS is NEW with no programs loaded except Rosetta and There is no I/O like sound, mouse/KB to rob cycles And yes I do have them OC But Look At there OUTPUT 100jobs per week That machine is 2 weeks old and did 200+ jobs your FX60 has been working for 6 months and has only done 21 jobs With a record like that I can see why your grumpy with High RAC's You might want to do some general maintenance defrag. spy ware blow out all the cooling, reset the CPU with new paste. But if you look at all the finished jobs I did I am sure you will see I do run faster cleaner PC then most just by the number of jobs I complete compared to other members with the same PC in the same time frame |
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(Message 18709)
Posted 15 Jun 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: @Laurenu2: You are one of those, having a BOINC version 5.5.0 with far too high benchmark results. What kind of BOINC client are you using? Why are the benchmarks that high? Can you tell me what computer node are you referring to that is to high. I even get lost in my network 70+ nodes Please give computer name not computer ID # I have been restocking with new AMD X2's, are these the ones your talking about If you look at the Top participants My first listing is about 20+ pages down and the people in front of my first listing are using lesser computers then I. So I would guess I am not getting that much more points for the work done But as I said to the system Lords it would be best to make it all even for the same work done |
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(Message 18685)
Posted 15 Jun 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: Can some one tell me how someone with only has 3,822.20 points get a RAC of 30,128.86?? No his Computers are hidden from the public |
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(Message 18684)
Posted 15 Jun 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: A lot of the first time posters are showing strange results like that, Lauren2. This is not 250 BUT 30,128 His RAC is 8X his points And if you look all his points are way over 30 days old. So I am not sure 5.4.9 was inplay then If this is let passed by the system Lords as OK I want my RAC boosted to 19,490,032 RAC score I think the system lords here need to look into ways to make the point system that is more fair and even to all. If not people will see the unbalance and walk a way Thats my 2 cents |
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(Message 18651)
Posted 14 Jun 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: Can some one tell me how someone with only has 3,822.20 points get a RAC of 30,128.86?? 6 PF2002 30,128.86 3,822.20 Netherlands 3 Jan 2006 15:17:02 UTC I have 66+ PC's running 24/7 and upload 2X's his over all total every 6 HR's and my RAC is 31,650.90 Thats only 1500 more then his Is this guy cheating by changing the numbers on his end |
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Report Problems with Rosetta Version 5.16 I
(Message 16812)
Posted 22 May 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: Hi Laurenu2... can you post the results page for one of your nodes that has this problem? Thanks! Yes that is the same problem I have 60 to 70 PC's make Way way to many node pages to scan through look here http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=196119 And http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=203528 There was another but it is lost in what I call my network On this node http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=218017 I found it locked up due to Rosetta eating up all the memory and about 500 MB of a swap file had to kill Rose through Task man rebooted and it started eating memory again about 400 meg on just under 3 min I had to abort that WU and then it worked fine again. |
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Report Problems with Rosetta Version 5.16 I
(Message 16797)
Posted 21 May 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: This ist not really a bug, but it is bugging me: I to have seen this happen you reboot a pc that have a hour+ loged on it and it starts over at 00:00 you the check points are not working on all WU's And Mod 9 then you are the lucky one that do not get these Errors But just becuse you do not get them does not meen we are not getting them |
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(Message 16783)
Posted 21 May 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: A lot of my nodes are without work due to reaching there WU quotas Rosetta should check there system and purge the BAD WU's they just sent out |
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Report stuck & aborted 5.01 WU here please - III
(Message 14360)
Posted 22 Apr 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: Ok here is a Small list of all the LONG Runners I Abortd Today I am sure it toped over 200 Hrs http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17751455 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17768645 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17586899 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=16971548 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17752270 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17751466 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17786078 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17757931 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17774722 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17754712 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17760449 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17748955 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17763107 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17764880 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17757632 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17721400 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17764855 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=17755473 |
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Report stuck & aborted 5.01 WU here please - III
(Message 14303)
Posted 21 Apr 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: I have 4 long runners running here Norm run time is 2 Hrs +/- Well back after 7 Hr and they are all still running all up 0.05% at this rate it will take over 200 Hrs to complete I am Aborting all with about 12 to 15 Hrs I will try to post a link later after the UL |
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Report stuck & aborted 5.01 WU here please - III
(Message 14264)
Posted 21 Apr 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: I have 4 long runners running here Norm run time is 2 Hrs +/- 4/21/2006 2:01:44 AM|rosetta@home|Starting result FACONTACTS_RECENTER_NOFILTERS_1bgf__448_895_1 using rosetta version 501 1.52% @6hr 4/20/2006 11:29:01 PM|rosetta@home|Starting result FACONTACTS_RECENTER_NOFILTERS_1r69__448_100_1 using rosetta version 501 2.44% @9.2hr 4/21/2006 2:49:55 AM|rosetta@home|Starting result HBLR_1.0_1hz6_420_4593_1 using rosetta version 501 3.68% @ 6.1 hr 4/21/2006 2:33:19 AM|rosetta@home|Starting result HBLR_1.0_1mky_420_5056_1 using rosetta version 501==4.11% @ 6.7hr I am going to work I will check on them again later today to see what is up with them |
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Report stuck & aborted WU here please - II
(Message 14224)
Posted 21 Apr 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: Thank you Rhiju For listening to our needs and taking steeps to fix or improve a vary frustrating problem. If any my words were at all harsh Pleases forgive me. It was not my intent I just want to get my point across And words do not come easily to me I have checked all my nodes and not one is on 1.4 So I guess the bad ones are at a end. Again Thank You |
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Report stuck & aborted WU here please - II
(Message 14193)
Posted 20 Apr 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: It'd still be nice to have WUs that are only causing problems with say.. the Windows clients, only be sent out to the Linux/Darwin users, instead of requiring 3 failures on Windows clients before they're shelved. Or even a user slected option for the client to report back to the servers every 3 to 6 Hrs Could give them a lot of alpha info to see what works better and hot any upgrades are working |
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Report stuck & aborted WU here please - II
(Message 14172)
Posted 20 Apr 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: Snake Doctor I am sorry If I am a little slower then most people here like you. I have my problems I will not go into right now But if you think Me trying to explain a Bug that I found (endless loop) is Bashing And posting the long letter below I think you are the one doing the bashing at me WHY It may be true that I am a little frustrated And perhaps it my show through but I was not basing I worked hard for Hrs trying to find that WU and learn how to find the info they wanted and I did post it Is that Bashing NO AGAIN my point here is the Rosetta system need to have in place a method to remove bad work on servers and clients To think this will not happen again is unwise 30 point hahaha I make over 17,000 points a day do you really think I am concerned with a Meir 30 points You need to get a reality check I am quite sure I have had around 1200 Hrs of CPU time stuck on these all the wasted time is what concerns me |
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Report stuck & aborted WU here please - II
(Message 14154)
Posted 20 Apr 2006 by Laurenu2 Post: [quoteAs a personal asside I might point out that the usefulness of your posting is directly related to the information you provide concerning the problem. Could you at least provide a link to the result ID so the problem can be examined?[/color][/b] [/quote] Ok after spending the last 1.5 Hrs looking I found it Note the time sent and the time sent back over 104 that meens this job was on it's 3rd loop 48 + 48 + 7 Now look at the granted points 8.25156419314919 for for a job that ran for 104 Hrs Now you can see why I was saying your Auto abort and your granting due credit is not working And the Real need to find a way to purge BAD WU's from the Rosetta Servers and the members clients. It is unfaire for Rosetta to make us members pay the bills to purge the system of your Bad WU's Result ID 17079919 Name FA_RLXpt_hom002_1ptq__361_380_3 Workunit 11796498 Created 12 Apr 2006 9:46:52 UTC Sent 12 Apr 2006 11:29:20 UTC Received 16 Apr 2006 19:13:28 UTC Server state Over Outcome Client error Client state Computing Exit status -197 (0xffffff3b) Computer ID 178772 Report deadline 26 Apr 2006 11:29:20 UTC CPU time 1716.296875 stderr out <core_client_version>5.2.13</core_client_version> <message>aborted via GUI RPC </message> <stderr_txt> # random seed: 2485491 # random seed: 2485491 # random seed: 2485491 # random seed: 2485491 </stderr_txt> Validate state Invalid Claimed credit 8.25156419314919 Granted credit 8.25156419314919 application version 4.98 |
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Report stuck & aborted WU here please - II
(Message 14146)
Posted 19 Apr 2006 by Laurenu2 Post:
I have seen the above post But You obviously missed the post from me where I said the auto abort at 48Hrs is not working "...Well David I let this one FA_RLXpt_hom002_1ptq__361_380_3 run through 48 HR it did not self abort as you said it would and send it self in IT JUST RESTARTED and it most likely was the 3rd time it restarted. That is 142 Hrs of wasted CPU time ." I think I aborted it at 7.5Hrs But I was watching all the way through 48 Hrs And then the clock went to 00:00 So I know for a fact that it Had at least 55 Hrs that I know of and it might have done the loop 5 X But you only grant credit for the 7.5 Hrs recorded after the loop reset So Not only is the 48 Hrs auto abort not working the way you want it to the granting of credit not working the way it should either And also this post where I said "... I'm sorry I can not, I looked for it but could not find it. For me your system for tracking WU is hard to use for me It might work OK for me if I had only a few nodes working this. But I have over 50 nodes working this project, jobs get lost with so many pages of WU's It might help if you put in page numbers 1 to 10 20 30 40 50 instead of Just NEXT PAGE If you want to tell me how to get the info you want I will try to retrieve it for you . Is there a file in my Boinc folder that I can open to get this Info I looked through hundreds of pages of returned WU And that was only 3 days worth (VARRY HARD to work with for a power user) I still do not know how all the other posters are getting and posting the links they are So you tell me what you want me to do, or to retreave from my network Just remember I am NOT in the IT feild so please be kind |
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