Posts by Andrew

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Advance copies of the soon-to-be-released executable (Message 32786)
Posted 17 Dec 2006 by Andrew
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I think that is a really bad idea, as the new rosetta files are (mosly) better and help the research go further.

I mentioned it because some people were complaining about how the boinc client automatically updates the Rosetta client.

If people with a lot of machines wish only to download the client once, and then distribute the new Rosetta client to their farm, using the anonymous platform would work. They could download the new binary once and then update the xml file and distribute the binary and xml together to update their farm.

However, \'normal\' crunchers shouldn’t use it.

Wouldn\'t it also stop the crunching ?

No, it would stop the boinc client updating the Rosetta client.

If it didn\'t it would mess up the results given back

That would totally depend on the differences between the Rosetta client versions.

(I know 64bit boinc client users use it though)

People use this method when they create/use custom project clients (like the optimized seti clients) or when their platform isn’t directly supported by the project... etc.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Advance copies of the soon-to-be-released executable (Message 32632)
Posted 14 Dec 2006 by Andrew
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I just wanted to remind people about Boinc\'s anonymous platform setting.

If the app_info.xml file is present it will stop boinc from automatically downloading a project client.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Compressing Rosetta Executables (Message 32631)
Posted 14 Dec 2006 by Andrew
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I just wanted to remind people about Boinc\'s anonymous platform setting.

If the app_info.xml file is present it will stop boinc from automatically downloading a project client.

This might be what some of you dailup users are looking for now...
4) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : Dial-up (Message 17924)
Posted 7 Jun 2006 by Andrew
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If I understand this correct, the longer WU runtimes, the better it is for the project?


Whenever DB is asked, his reply is to use 8hr run time. He says that there is no impact to the science whether you use 1hr, 2hr, 8hr etc, but with 8hr it reduces the bandwidth for their servers.

DB has never said, as far as I\'ve seen, that one time setting is better than any other for the science.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Report Problems with Rosetta Version 5.16 I (Message 16442)
Posted 17 May 2006 by Andrew
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You should use this thread to post your issue(s).

Also, since your computers are hidden, posting the messages from your messages tab will help greatly.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Transfer WUs? (Message 13839)
Posted 15 Apr 2006 by Andrew
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is it possible to transfer already assigned WU from one computer to another? The reason I ask is that I have one with small RAM which has large WU and one with big RAM which has small RAM. I would like to change the WUs between these two hosts. Is there a way to do this (even if it requires editign the client_state.xml)


No, you can\'t transfer WUs. That goes against the BOINC\'s design.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Contemplating building a farm... (Message 13637)
Posted 13 Apr 2006 by Andrew
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Can you explain Farm Manager? sounds like you would be able to control everything that has to do with Boinc on the machines running Boinc or something.


This is a good start: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/acct_mgt.php
8) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : Comments/questions on Rosetta@home journal (Message 13168)
Posted 7 Apr 2006 by Andrew
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With new public machines having at least a gig of memory, perhaps you could establish a \"Rosetta II\" or something like that as well, whose minimum memory requirements are a gig. I don\'t know if this doubling of the memory requirement helps you, but more and more memory is being packed into the newer machines...


Seasonal Attribution Project has a requirement of 1G memory, and according to BOINCstats there is about 580 users, and 700 hosts.

I think a Rosetta II could be one solution, but another could be an opt-in setting in our preferences for crunching large WU (as discussed else where in the forums)
9) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : 90% failure rate (Message 13063)
Posted 5 Apr 2006 by Andrew
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This particular issue is a glitch with how BOINC can track process time under Win98 and I\'ve seen it discussed in various other BOINC projects.


This is a known issue with boinc, not rosetta. It is one reason why the official supported Windows platforms are only XP, 2000, and 2003 server.
http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_requirements.php

Some people don\'t have any issue running win98, others do... you unfortunately are one of the unlucky ones.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Can\'t install BOINC in my 10.3.9 OS X (Message 12060)
Posted 15 Mar 2006 by Andrew
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I personally don\'t have a Mac...

But have you tried asking at Team MacNN?

They are a large Mac team in boinc, and will probably be able to help you.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Running Boinc as a Service (Message 11755)
Posted 7 Mar 2006 by Andrew
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What Lee said :)
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Running Boinc as a Service (Message 11752)
Posted 7 Mar 2006 by Andrew
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1. How do I then attach to Rosetta?

Use the command line, boinccmd.exe?

2. How do I then \'know\' that everything is ok if there is no boinc manager running?

Look at the trace files, or use BoincView, or BoincLogX, or something similar.

I don\'t run boinc as a service... so take the above as you wish. :)
13) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Optimized Clients - Moved from Science Forum (Message 10933)
Posted 19 Feb 2006 by Andrew
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... how long does the average units take to process...

I have a P4 non-HT 3G, and depending on the WU it can take anywhere from 45 mins to 2hrs to complete a WU. Note that there are different WUs (just look at the name of the WU) which have different duration.


With the new WUs, you can set the run time in your preferences... default is 8 hrs.
14) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Optimized Clients - Moved from Science Forum (Message 10810)
Posted 16 Feb 2006 by Andrew
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... I don\'t really know what you mean by code ...

Seti@home released the source code to their seti client (C/C++ program code). So people have taken that source code and modified it, creating optimized client for different platforms (windows, linux, alpha, free-bsd, solaris, hp, etc). Rosetta has decided not to release the source code for their rosetta client at this time.

... how long does the average units take to process...

I have a P4 non-HT 3G, and depending on the WU it can take anywhere from 45 mins to 2hrs to complete a WU. Note that there are different WUs (just look at the name of the WU) which have different duration.
15) Message boards : Cafe Rosetta : Optimized Clients - Moved from Science Forum (Message 10806)
Posted 16 Feb 2006 by Andrew
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I was just wondering if there was any optimised \"patches\" for Rosetta. The ones like the seti clients


No.

That was some discussion a while back about release code but the admins decided against it, so far.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Leave in Memory? (Message 10785)
Posted 15 Feb 2006 by Andrew
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David Baker has just posted that the new client is to be released \"later this week\" in this post.

Of course, what this upcoming release addresses is to be seen. :)

EDIT: found another post with more info.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Improvements to Rosetta@home based on user feedback (Message 10777)
Posted 15 Feb 2006 by Andrew
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Mostly to David, but if this change happens, how will we be able to control this?


When this was initially discussed, I believe it was said that there would be a section added to the rosetta preferences page.

Similar to say what CPDN has done... CPDN has added a graphics section to control their screensaver.

18) Message boards : Number crunching : Improvements to Rosetta@home based on user feedback (Message 10776)
Posted 15 Feb 2006 by Andrew
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BTW: Is need a option to control how many streams for (up/dl) the client app
opens simultaneus --- actually it opens 2 streams
and that 2 files transfers at the same time, is clogging my 14400 bps dialup
blocking me to surf internet while download -or- upload occurs

*If it transfers 1 file at each time my access to internet would not be blocked
and all transfers will occurs quickly w/o too frequent upload/download errors

be understand correct -> I have 2 files to upload -or- download
actually app try sendind -or- receiveing the two files simultaneously

what is need is: upload 1 file, when this upload done, then upload the 2nd file
*the same for downloads


This is a boinc client issue not a rosetta client issue, so you should post on the boinc msg boards.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Unrecoverable error??? (Message 10771)
Posted 15 Feb 2006 by Andrew
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The transfer/MD5 errors are due to the web server being overloaded.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : WU not downloading (Message 10728)
Posted 13 Feb 2006 by Andrew
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I recieved this msg this morning (Time is EST):

13/02/2006 5:59:10 AM|rosetta@home|MD5 check failed for 1aiu.pdb.gz
13/02/2006 5:59:10 AM|rosetta@home|expected e21a17a1a9f8b9c4562398accd5be376, got 04c93c74dfe58b40387e8bb87fb132a1
13/02/2006 5:59:10 AM|rosetta@home|Checksum or signature error for 1aiu.pdb.gz
13/02/2006 5:59:11 AM|rosetta@home|Unrecoverable error for result FAST_ABINITIO_DEFAULT_1aiu__306_757_0 (WU download error: couldn\'t get input files:<file_xfer_error> <file_name>1aiu.pdb.gz</file_name> <error_code>-119</error_code> <error_message>MD5 check failed</error_message></file_xfer_error>)


I\'m finding the website is slower than normal too.


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