Posts by Jim1348

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 107590)
Posted 26 Oct 2022 by Jim1348
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Weird, because I am using default profile and all I did was recheck rainfall and save and then uncheck it and save and the use BOINC to update.

Something must be stuck on my account in their server. But it is not the worst problem they have.
It will eventually get cleared out. Thanks.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 107586)
Posted 26 Oct 2022 by Jim1348
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Thanks, but it doesn't work for me. Also, I can't attach to any location except "school", even if I detach from the project and reattach.

EDIT: I can change locations by "resetting" the project, instead of detach/reattach.
But even that trick worked only on my Win10 machine, not my Ubuntu 20.04 machines.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 107583)
Posted 25 Oct 2022 by Jim1348
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Possibly because IBM was involved only as a donation to charity. They weren't making any money by providing the servers.

That is certainly part of it. I am wondering though whether they began to doubt the scientific value of it. If a great new treatment would result for cancer, or Covid, they would probably want to hang on for the good publicity. They may have thought the projects had been bypassed by newer techniques. Scripps has not set up their own website for Open Pandemics, and even Krembil has not put enough emphasis to fix it for their own project. It must not be the highest priority for any of them.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 107575)
Posted 24 Oct 2022 by Jim1348
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And no NVDIA work..just AMD/ATI and Intel? What the +-*/ !

They have no AMD or Intel work either. If you had an AMD card, it would say "only work for Nvidia and Intel".
So it is whatever you don't have.

They think of everything.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Ralph is closed? (Message 106912)
Posted 12 Sep 2022 by Jim1348
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Total queued jobs: 0

The End is Near.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Ralph is closed? (Message 106902)
Posted 10 Sep 2022 by Jim1348
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And it's strange, cause the rosetta code is constantly updated
Also Foldit is constantly updated....

Python is just the project of a lone researcher. He probably does not have much support. We don't know what data they are crunching; it may be a fixed set.
And once he/she completes the experiment, there may be no more need to continue the project.

It is possible that they will achieve such a useful result that they decide to continue though.
In that case, I would expect them to use an updated python version with some fixes.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Ralph is closed? (Message 106881)
Posted 8 Sep 2022 by Jim1348
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And the bigger question is what happens here after they run out of work in a couple of weeks.
Either they come up with something new, or it is all over.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Why does Python download need about 19GB free disk space? (Message 106871)
Posted 5 Sep 2022 by Jim1348
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http://gene.disi.unitn.it/test/
9) Message boards : Number crunching : High write-rate with Pythons (Message 106867)
Posted 5 Sep 2022 by Jim1348
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I think your scratch disk will last forever. The writes are serialized by PrimoCache, and much easier on the SSD than random writes.
And 16 GB is a pretty good size.

You are welcome.
10) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Can't run Rosetta tasks using VirtualBox afterupgrade to Ubuntu 22.04 (Message 106861)
Posted 4 Sep 2022 by Jim1348
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Virtualbox WU's are still broken .. Hooray for LTS versions of OS's.......

Against my better judgement, I tried 22.04 on their representation that you could access it remotely from a Windows machine using Remote Desktop.
Sure enough, it did not work at all. I had to go back to X11 VNC, and even that didn't work, probably due to some additional security requirement buried somewhere.

Each new version gets worse and worse. I only upgraded to 20.04 because of hardware compatibility, but never again if I don't have to.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 106835)
Posted 26 Aug 2022 by Jim1348
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Now start the slot and reboot. It might have just been set to pause on start. That's what I find, a different setting controls what it will do at startup.

No problem with starting the slot, then pausing it, then rebooting. It stays paused until I start it again.
I did not set "pause on start" at all.

I don't recall ever losing a Folding task on reboot either in Windows or Ubuntu. That is different than certain BOINC projects, where it can happen.
In Folding, they control the software both for the client that runs the task, and also the control program. So they are usually very compatible.

One advantage is that you don't have to put up with the insufferable BOINC scheduler. It has to juggle a lot of different tasks with different run times from different projects.
And they also have the resource share setting to consider, while running VirtualBox tasks with other ones, while meeting the deadlines. It is all a big mess.

Folding just downloads a new work unit when the running one is 99% complete. There is no buffer to set and really not much to go wrong.
The only real problem I have seen in recent years is when COVID hit and all the servers were overloaded. But that is all straightened out now.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 106832)
Posted 26 Aug 2022 by Jim1348
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How does your folding client start? My starts with "E:program files (x86)FAHClientHideConsole.exe" "e:Program Files (x86)FAHClientFAHClient.exe" --client-type=advanced link in C:ProgramDataMicrosoftWindowsStart MenuProgramsStartup


C:Program Files (x86)FAHClientHideConsole.exe
(note that the backslashes are removed by the Rosetta forum)
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 106827)
Posted 26 Aug 2022 by Jim1348
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I just tried it on my Win10 machine, and it works there too. (Normally, I just use the FAH client.)
But I paused the slot with HFM, and rebooted. It stayed paused.

Do you have the latest version of HFM.NET? They have made some changes recently.
Then, you just add that machine to HFM.NET, and right-click on it, and choose "Pause Slot".
(It was a CPU slot. I did not try it on the GPU.)

It has been long-requested on the Folding forum, and yes they are very slow.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 106825)
Posted 26 Aug 2022 by Jim1348
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It is the same setting for me, "Pause Slot".
I am controlling Linux machines from Win10.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 106823)
Posted 26 Aug 2022 by Jim1348
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I mainly use a third-party program, "HFM.NET" to control my Folding machines over the LAN.
https://github.com/harlam357/hfm-net/releases

If you set it to "Pause Slot", it will remember it upon reboot.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 106821)
Posted 26 Aug 2022 by Jim1348
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If you set it to finish and it finishes work and pauses it will forget that it was paused on reboot. You have to press pause button to make it remember.

There is a setting for that, if you want it to remain paused:
In Extra Core Options, you set "pause-on-start = true"
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 106819)
Posted 26 Aug 2022 by Jim1348
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I can reboot both Windows and Linux without problems.
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 106813)
Posted 26 Aug 2022 by Jim1348
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I am using their web based program. I never knew about the PC based program.
I'll have to look into that.

The Windows version is easy to set up, though it will try to use both CPU and GPU by default.
You will have to remove one or the other type of slots if you don't want that one.

The Linux version is a bit different, in that you have to change one of the default options to get the GPU to run.
You remove the "gpu false" flag.
https://foldingathome.org/alternative-downloads/?lng=en

And be sure to set a password in order to get full credit.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 106810)
Posted 25 Aug 2022 by Jim1348
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Enough of this bull, i've got plenty of real projects to work on.
I think FAH does better work than RAH.
RAH is all about inhouse now and dumping trash out here.
Reminds me of TAC.

Good luck with all the nonsense guys, I've had enough.
I'm in plug and play mode, not fight with a stupid bot mode.

I have been in the same boat myself more than once.

If RAH annoys you too much, I highly recommend FAH. I have figured out its client by now, and it works reliably.
And I think their science is now better than anything else, considering that Rosetta is doing the good stuff in-house.

Have fun.
20) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Can't run Rosetta tasks using VirtualBox afterupgrade to Ubuntu 22.04 (Message 106808)
Posted 24 Aug 2022 by Jim1348
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My system is Ubuntu 22.04.1 running VirtualBox Version 6.1.34_Ubuntu r150636
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Before I downgrade - does ANYONE have an idea on why this is happening, or next steps for me to try to figure it out myself?

It is due to the new security setting in BOINC 7.18.1 and above.
https://quchempedia.univ-angers.fr/athome/forum_thread.php?id=166#1644

You will need to go back to 7.16.6. I don't know if that is possible in Ubuntu 22.04.1.
That is why I stay with 20.04.4.


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