I added the VM Extension pack, but still having problems. The WUs will now at least run for a while (hours in most cases) but then still error out. Anyone figured out what else to do?

Anyone else running these fine in Vbox under Linux? what config are you running?

I know Rosetta hasn't ever done this but these new Python tasks take 7.45gb of memory for EACH task on my Windows pc's, i have pc's with anything from 6 to 32 cpu cores but not a one of them has enough memory to fill every cpu core with a Python task and not lock up the pc to the point only a reboot and reducing the physical number of tasks I can run at Rosetta. Normally it's not a problem with anything EXCEPT the Python tasks

Than limit the amount of concurrent python tasks using an app_confil.xml. This can be even different for each of your computers, depending on the amount of memory.

We will be releasing new jobs using the Rosetta Python projects application with RoseTTAFold All-Atom, our state-of-the-art deep learning based application that predict the structures of proteins in complex with ligands such as DNA and other biological molecules and also models post-translational modifications. As a reminder, this application will be released in the form of virtual machine. To help us with testing and gathering performance statistics, we ask that you do not abort related work units.

I use an APP_CONFIG to run all my projects. I can set to run just 1 beta WU, never tried to set max tasks to 0.
Right now i'm running Milky Way until Beta is more stable.

<max_concurrent>Zero</max_concurrent> = <max_concurrent>Infinity</max_concurrent>

Hi there. Apologies if this is posted in the wrong area, but I am unable to get work.
I bought this new computer about a month ago. it has an Intel(R) Arc(TM) A770 Graphics card and a 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-13700F processor.
I hope you can help.
I've tried attaching to several boinc projects, and I'm not getting any work.
Is this just bad luck or is something else wrong?

Not really necessary, don't we all have large SSDs?

Happy new year.
A lot of wus to everyone!!
Let's do science

I'm a bit mystified why my RAC keeps diving despite 9 validated tasks in the last whatever time period it is allowed to show.

That means that you are not returning validated tasks as fast as you were earlier in the month the RAC is for.

If you can't download tasks, you can't complete and return them.

The tasks that are shown is usually for a shorter period, such as a week.

I see the problem now, LHC had a big batch of use all (15 in my case)cpu tasks.

Correction: It's Milkyway with 15 out 16 CPUs for 3-4 minutes per task. 83 tasks in queue. But I switch applications every few hours so everyone has their turn.

The standard Rosetta tasks also reserve 8gb of ram for each task,

No they don't.
They request & release RAM as required- none is reserved. And apart from a batch of faulty Tasks some time back, the most i have seen used by a single Task was around 4GB. Generally the highest is around 1.3GB.
The current batch of work are using between 700MB & 1GB each.

Please stop making thing up, it's not helpful.

I am out, until someone can confirm that the pythons are working correctly, and I can select them.

Part one of that is no problem.
I returned at least two proper results before the one I was complaining about.
Unfortunately I can't show them off anymore, as the db seems to have taken them out by now.
vbox can be a hassle on every project, and I encountered similar problems elsewhere.
Dealing with projects that have nothing except vbox apps is one thing, but Rosetta isn't one of those.
So the possibility to unselect those monsters should obviously and absolutely be existing!

I see I'm not the only one who wished there was an option in the preferences as to which work units I want!

I have a Virtual Box installed but even when it's closed, BOINC downloads Python wu's. These are MASSIVE memory hogs at around 7.6gig each. As a result, I have both standard & Python running but w/u's queued up due to insufficient memory. (I have 32gig)

If I had a choice, I'd only enable the standard wu's instead of the Python one's but there's no way to toggle one or the other. To be honest, I aborted the work and moved onto another project. That's not a win for Rosetta@Home.
I guess I could just let my pc's crunch as much as possible and leave it be. I'd still like to see an option in the preferences.

An update:
After switching back to running RAH on just one core, all invalids are gone.
I now have 27 Consecutive valid tasks.

@mikey, it looks like you're spot on with the memory requirements.
The other 7 cores now run FAH and WCG and because i only have 16gb on this system, just 1 runs RAH.

On macOS those python VB tasks take much much less than 8 Gb (I would 13 Gb free when it was running) + as I explained, I had limited them and only 1 was running at a time (the rest was regular rosetta).

I'm not sure if you mean "don't bother too much and change project for now" or "there are useful tips in that other thread" ? I had a (very) quick look and it's long and complicated, not even sure if the problems they mention are similar ?

In any case it'll have to wait, for now I have dropped all those many tasks I had (running or not) and I'm focusing on other projects for the moment.

Thanks !

Hi,

I have the exact same problem : I was forced to limit the python tasks to 1 at a time using app_config (recommended in another thread on this forum) because I would get many problems with those tasks on my iMac (with lots of resources : core i9 + 40 Gb RAM, but they stall / don't stop to crunch after almost 2 days and go over the deadline, ... ) and now it downloaded almost 1000 tasks with 2 days deadline (regular rosetta, not python where it only got 9 waiting to crunch).

So this is "not rosetta's fault" ? I never got such a problem on any other project and it is not the first time I limit number of tasks (I used to do it on LCH back in the days when they didn't have much options in project setup).

And rosetta offers no setup whatsoever with project selection.

I feel much more that *it is* "rosetta's fault" actually.

Fortunately Rosetta does not punish us for aborting the tasks we don't want to run so feel free to abort all the regular tasks and keep trying to get the Python tasks you do want.

For F*&^% sake don't.

kotenok2000- If you don't want to process a particular type of Task for a particular project, and that project doesn't give you the option to choose between Tasks types, then better to not do any work for that project than download work just to abort it.



To process only a particular work type requires the use of app_info.xml where you need to put in the all the details of the project, the work type, the application, the files needed by the application etc. And you will need to manually change that & download & install the new application & files when a new application comes out.
This is what's known as Anonymous Platform- and as far as i know, Rosetta doesn't support it.


So, if you only want to do only Python work, and aren't prepared to do any of the Rosetta 4.20 work, then i suggest you detach from Rosetta as it's not a suitable project for you.

Lately i have a high number of validation errors.
Like this one:
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=1446981031
Nothing changed on my end, and the system is running fine and stable as always.
This system also runs a number of WCG tasks without any problems or errors.
Also the reported runtime of 2 minutes is not correct.
This task ran 4+ hours before being invalidated.
It's a win10 pro system with an amd ryzen 7 2700 with 16Gb of memory.
It also runs FAH tasks GPU and CPU without any roblems.

Anyone else have a growing number of validation errors?