Posts by HiFiTubeGuy

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 71669)
Posted 29 Nov 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Hopefully it won't be long before new WUs come through, but at times like these it's worth tweaking "Rosetta@home preferences" available from "Your preferences" in Boinc Manager & increasing "Target CPU run time" from 3 hours if you can, both to extend the remaining work you have & to reduce the demand of new WUs when they come back on stream, easing the workload on the servers and ensuring everyone gets back running a little quicker.

Maybe I'm blind, stupid or both, but I don't see anything labeled "BOINC Preferences" in my BOINC Manager 6.12.34.


If you click the 'Projects' tab, then click 'Your Preferences' which will take you to your account page, then click the 'Rosetta@home preferences' link. Then, on your preferences page, click the 'Edit Rosetta@home preferences' link. Select the 'Target CPU run time' you'd like, and click 'Update preferences'.

Hope that helps,
Kerry
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 71658)
Posted 28 Nov 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Hopefully it won't be long before new WUs come through, but at times like these it's worth tweaking "Rosetta@home preferences" available from "Your preferences" in Boinc Manager & increasing "Target CPU run time" from 3 hours if you can, both to extend the remaining work you have & to reduce the demand of new WUs when they come back on stream, easing the workload on the servers and ensuring everyone gets back running a little quicker.


Good idea; I've just set mine to 6 hrs.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 71657)
Posted 28 Nov 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Hi.

Like i said there's no work, nothing to do with Boinc manager.

Someone needs to kick the server.


Database status
State Approximate #results
Ready to send__3



Yes; I see now that you're right. I was getting lots of work today (it's still Nov. 27 here as I write this) up until 23:15UTC, but now I'm starting to see the 'No work sent' messages on my machines also.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 71653)
Posted 28 Nov 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Hi.

Like i said there's no work, nothing to do with Boinc manager.

Someone needs to kick the server.


Database status
State Approximate #results
Ready to send__3



Hmmm,
not sure what say; I think my Tasks for user shows that I've gotten over 80 new tasks from the server so far today, but maybe I'm misunderstanding something here?
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 71651)
Posted 27 Nov 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Hi.

Not getting any work, seems the well is dry.

Mon 28 Nov 2011 07:53:01 EST rosetta@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
Mon 28 Nov 2011 07:53:01 EST rosetta@home Requesting new tasks
Mon 28 Nov 2011 07:53:03 EST rosetta@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
Mon 28 Nov 2011 07:53:03 EST rosetta@home Message from server: No work sent


Howdy,
I recently had the same problem on one of my 3 machines (sometimes no work at all; sometimes only 3 or 4 tasks would download at most), while the other 2 had plenty of work coming in. I tried several things (that didn't help), but I figured that something was corrupted in my Boinc Manager, so I ended up uninstalling my Boinc Manager and deleting the Boinc folder (not sure where this is in your Linux, but in Windows it's in 'Documents and Settings/All Users/Application Data/Boinc'). Then I installed a new Boinc Manager (from Rosetta's home page), and that took care of the problem for me; everything is working fine now.

Hope that helps,
Kerry
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Client Detached?? (Message 71358)
Posted 1 Oct 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Update:
Got my new graphics card, and with a matched pair now, the computer is working fine; no more freeze-ups (which I think may have caused the 'client detached' error in the first place).

So, what I did to get 're-attached' is this (in case anyone else has this problem sometime):
First, I clcked the 'Remove' button (same as 'Detach'; thanks clive_G1FYE!) under the 'Projects' tab to truly detach my computer, as it still had the R@H project in the Boinc Manager, and was still able to crunch tasks and upload results, and download new tasks; but without receiving any credit for the work done, as it was only the Boinc servers that considered my computer to be 'detached'.

Then, with my computer now truly detached (the BM was now empty of any project / tasks), I uninstalled BM using Windows Uninstall.

Then I deleted the remaining 'BOINC' folder; under C:/ProgramData/BOINC (in Windows 7).

Then I installed a 'fresh' BM from the R@H homepage, added the R@H project, and now everything is working good; I'm re-attached and getting credit for it. :D

Thanks again to everyone who helped me out with this! :)
Kerry
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Client Detached?? (Message 71348)
Posted 28 Sep 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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There's a thread on the BOINC boards about the latest two ATI drivers causing BOINC problems when running BOINC in a sandbox account (can't remember the wording used during the BOINC install?). Not sure if that is applicable to you, but I was installing BOINC so didn't get as far as having tasks in the first place. It meant that BOINC couldn't communicate with the client until I installed it without that option checked during install, so I guess that might cause a detached error.

Rom's suggestion at the end is to use BOINC .38 - I presume that is 6.12.38 which doesn't appear to be available yet... Or install without using the sandbox option I guess.

HTH
Danny


Thanks Danny, though I seem to have a different problem; where as my computer runs the tasks normally, and then Boinc Manager uploads the finished tasks, and then downloads new tasks in their place. The problem is that the finished tasks that are uploaded just seem to dissapear; they don't show up in my Tasks for computer, and I don't get any credit for them. (And I don't understand why my Boinc Manager will download new tasks if my computer is really 'detached'?).

My new graphics card (which is Nvidia btw) is due to arrive Thursday, so then I'll have a matching pair, and (hopefully) stop the lock-ups/freezes I've had. The computer won't freeze with only one card, but I need 2 cards and 4 monitors for the purpose I use this computer for (digital multitrack recording and music production).

I think the 'detachment' probably happened from some error (as Mikey suggested) after or during a freeze, and the necessary 'hard reboot', so I'm waiting 'till I get my new card (and get my computer working without freezing) before I make any further changes with Boinc Manager.

Thanks again,
Kerry
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Client Detached?? (Message 71337)
Posted 27 Sep 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Thanks everyone for all of your replies; I really appreciate it! :)

I decided last night to suspend the project, as this computer has spent a full day (since the 'detachment') of crunching and uploading results for 30 or more tasks, without receiving any credit for the work done.

I have had a problem with a hardware conflict (I think) as a result of using 2 mismatched graphics cards (to drive 4 monitors), and I'm waiting for a new graphics card to arrive, so I'll have a matched pair. Then, when I get this computer working without any problems (locking up), I guess the thing to do is to remove all traces of Boinc this way, and then re-install Boinc and try again.

Of course, I'm open to other suggestions! ;)
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Client Detached?? (Message 71329)
Posted 26 Sep 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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One of my computers stopped showing any increase in credit last night, yet it continues to complete and upload results for about 4 tasks every 3 hrs. (it's a quad-core). Looking at 'Tasks for computer', there are over 120 tasks showing 'Client detached' at 17:28:48 UTC Sep 24th, yet it shows 34 new tasks sent to this computer since then. Would Boinc really continue to send new tasks to a computer that's detached? I have Boinc Manager 6.12.34 in this computer, and I can't even find a 'Detach' button like older versions of the manager had, so I wouldn't even know how to detach if I wanted to.
And, I wonder, where are all the credits 'going' (lost in cyberspace I guess??) as this computer continues to upload completed tasks since it was 'detached'? :(
Any ideas anyone?


Hi.

Are you using an Account manager, that could be causing your problems.



No, at least I don't think so. On each of my (3) computers, I have only installed the Boinc Manager from the R@H website homepage (under 'Join Rosetta@home').

10) Message boards : Number crunching : Client Detached?? (Message 71327)
Posted 26 Sep 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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One of my computers stopped showing any increase in credit last night, yet it continues to complete and upload results for about 4 tasks every 3 hrs. (it's a quad-core). Looking at 'Tasks for computer', there are over 120 tasks showing 'Client detached' at 17:28:48 UTC Sep 24th, yet it shows 34 new tasks sent to this computer since then. Would Boinc really continue to send new tasks to a computer that's detached? I have Boinc Manager 6.12.34 in this computer, and I can't even find a 'Detach' button like older versions of the manager had, so I wouldn't even know how to detach if I wanted to.
And, I wonder, where are all the credits 'going' (lost in cyberspace I guess??) as this computer continues to upload completed tasks since it was 'detached'? :(
Any ideas anyone?
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Can someone game the BOINC software and/ or misrepresent the cpu reporting? (Message 71281)
Posted 16 Sep 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Thanks for the answers you all. That makes much more sense now, even though that is beyond my capabilities. I bet you could get some people scratching their heads if you did this with a cluster of around 4 2600k machines though. That would show up as a 2600k processor making around 24-25k RAC. ;)


Yeah, heh heh, a '32 core' i7 2600k would be SWEET! I wish I had the money to set up such a thing!

With winter coming on, it would sure help to take a load off of the furnace too! :D
12) Message boards : Number crunching : About ready to REMOVE Rosetta@home (Message 71220)
Posted 8 Sep 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Hi Rob,
if you click on the 'Activity' menu in Boinc Manager, is 'Run based on preferences' selected?
If not, and 'Run always' is selected, Boinc Manager will ignore your preference of not running Boinc 'While computer is in use'.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Can someone game the BOINC software and/ or misrepresent the cpu reporting? (Message 71208)
Posted 7 Sep 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Possibly he's set up PVM's (Parallel Virtual Machines)?; connecting say, 4 T7700 machines together to act as one 8-core 'supercomputer'? I notice that his Computer Summary shows 8 cores for his 'dual core' machines.
Check this article about PVM: Building A Linux Supercomputer
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 70874)
Posted 3 Aug 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Thanks for the feedback on WU time.

Has Rosetta been down for a while?

Don't you guys maintain several days of WU on your systems to cover short term outages?

I have the preferences set to hold 3 days of WU on my system. That is usually enough.


It's not that Rosetta has actually been 'down' really, there's just been a temporary shortage of work: see http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=5701&nowrap=true#70834 .

Yep, I set my work buffer at 4 days. Maybe I'm just lucky, as I've managed to get just enough work each day through this shortage (since July 26th for me) to keep my computers busy, and apparently some people have gotten no work at all at times.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 70868)
Posted 2 Aug 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Curious, how long does a typical Rosetta work unit run. I realize it varies by computer but give me a WAG. Seti WU vary from about 1 hour to 15 hours. Then there are the Astropulse WU that run 50 to 90 hours estimated run time.

Ed



Welcome to R@H!

Most of mine (Rosetta WU's) take 2.5 to 3 hours; on a Core i7 860 OC'd @ 3.61GHz.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 70840)
Posted 1 Aug 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Personally,
I don't believe the people at Rosetta owe me anything for the crunching I do (I'm not doing it as a favor to them), nor do I crunch to earn the most credits, or to compete.
I volunteer to crunch for the goal of curing / preventing disease, and I believe that the people at Rosetta volunteer their time and energy for the same goal. I think we're all on the same team here.
In times of temporary lack of WU's, or other problems with Rosetta, better communication would be nice, but it's no big deal to me if it takes a few days; it's no loss for me.
As long as there continues to be SOME communication; and so far there is, even if a little slow.

Just my personal feelings.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 70829)
Posted 31 Jul 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Same problem here.
Looking under the 'Messages' tab in Boinc Manager, I see LOTS of 'No work sent' messages, starting on July 26, with only a few occasional new WU's being downloaded since then.
18) Message boards : Number crunching : which cpu´s are you using for rosetta? (Message 70828)
Posted 30 Jul 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Core i7 860 @ 3.61GHz, HT on
Athlon64X2 4200+ @ 2.20GHz

Running both at 'full throttle' 24/7/365; except for a few times a year when I shut 'em down to blow all the dust out :)
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Project File Upload Handler Is Missing (Message 69273)
Posted 13 Jan 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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Same here ;)

Hurray!! Servers all just came back online, my uploads finally went through, and scheduler request completed by sending me new work.



Same here! Yeah; Rosetta's (slowly) coming back to life!

I just started crunching for POEM@HOME last night, so I guess I'll do both for now.
20) Message boards : Number crunching : Reporting Deadlines (Message 69171)
Posted 11 Jan 2011 by HiFiTubeGuy
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I have (and I am sure I am not the only one) a grunch of completed tasks which are going to reach their reporting deadline tomorrow.

Anyone have any idea on how these tasks will be handled? Will they be discarded as late?


I'm not sure; but I hope this might be (a little) helpful:
I've managed to at least get about 70 (out of approx. 280) of my finished tasks to finally upload (and now have over 5000 pending credits) by going to the 'Transfers' tab in the Boinc Manager, clicking on various tasks, and clicking the 'Retry Now' button.

Best wishes.


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