Posts by Godfather

1) Message boards : Number crunching : problem with task manager (Message 56459)
Posted 24 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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I quit boinc from task manager because everytime I quit it from the tray of boinc,what i quitted was just boinc,some projects in boinc still runs(can be seen in task manager),like rosetta,which means I cant really stop the program,it's still occuping resources.Now,I got some new problems,I cant stop the rosetta anymore.when I click stop,it does stop,but next time i want to resume,rosetta start from zero percent again,not from where I stopped it,all the previous works are gone.why? this problem only occur to rosetta,seti and other projects are normal.

Rosetta only checkpoints at certain points and resumes from the last checkpoint when it restarts.

If you kill boinc then it will take a while for rosetta to end. If you exit boinc then rosetta will end immediately. are you running boinc as a service?


I wonder how you guys acquired so many credits?are you running many machinesat 24 for 7? or your machine has very excellent configs that make you run it faster?
2) Message boards : Number crunching : problem with task manager (Message 56458)
Posted 24 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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I quit boinc from task manager because everytime I quit it from the tray of boinc,what i quitted was just boinc,some projects in boinc still runs(can be seen in task manager),like rosetta,which means I cant really stop the program,it's still occuping resources.Now,I got some new problems,I cant stop the rosetta anymore.when I click stop,it does stop,but next time i want to resume,rosetta start from zero percent again,not from where I stopped it,all the previous works are gone.why? this problem only occur to rosetta,seti and other projects are normal.

Rosetta only checkpoints at certain points and resumes from the last checkpoint when it restarts.

If you kill boinc then it will take a while for rosetta to end. If you exit boinc then rosetta will end immediately. are you running boinc as a service?


I have tried all the methods you mentioned.none of them worked.but now, seems new WUs have got that fixed,it can start from where I stopped.what do you mean by as a service? I just run it for fun,donating to science ~~
3) Message boards : Number crunching : problem with task manager (Message 56455)
Posted 24 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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I quit boinc from task manager because everytime I quit it from the tray of boinc,what i quitted was just boinc,some projects in boinc still runs(can be seen in task manager),like rosetta,which means I cant really stop the program,it's still occuping resources.Now,I got some new problems,I cant stop the rosetta anymore.when I click stop,it does stop,but next time i want to resume,rosetta start from zero percent again,not from where I stopped it,all the previous works are gone.why? this problem only occur to rosetta,seti and other projects are normal.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : problem with task manager (Message 56434)
Posted 21 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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I quit Boinc often by using the Task Manager, and I don't have any Problems with it.In Fact you get errors by killing the Process or the Task..try out stopping the boinc-SERVICE in your task manager (its Dienste in german).

greetings
Ma3threeX

If running as a service, then stopping the service is fine. Killing the boinc exe isn't recommended and killing the rosetta exe is probably going to cause the task to error out.



I guess so too.Maybe next time I should snooze it before terminate~~
5) Message boards : Number crunching : problem with task manager (Message 56427)
Posted 20 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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Godfather, there have been some issues lately where the BOINC Manager doesn't seem to be in control of the tasks the way it should be. The manager has told the task to suspend and it does not respond. The result is that you can end up with more tasks then you have CPUs that are running at the same time. And if your suspend on idle or switch to another project's tasks, the tasks that were running at the time don't seem to suspend properly.

Which BOINC version are you using? And which operating system on your machine?

From looking at your tasks page, it looks like all of your machines are Windows XP and BOINC 6.2.19.

Hopefully the cause of the tasks continuing to run after they've been told to suspend will be resolved soon.


yea, my machine 's operation systme is XP and I use boinc version 6.2.19.thank you.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : problem with task manager (Message 56418)
Posted 19 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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since my computer always goes on strikes,I often use task manager to stop those programs that cause jam.Everytime after i quit bonic,the projects of rosetta still run,so i have to stop the project from task manager manually.But i noticed a phenomenon,everytime I quit project from TM,the next time I start Boinc,the status of the project which I quit previously is computing error,and the computing I had done before got useless.Is there any relation between computing error and manually shut down?

thanks for answering ~~
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Is the server down recently? (Message 56394)
Posted 16 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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Please review the details in this thread. Your machine is requesting zero seconds of work, and receiving zero seconds of work. From looking at your host, you already have one task ready to work on. BOINC will get more when it needs them.



actually I dunno whats wrong with it,or maybe I worried too much.I used to have new WUs waiting in the queue before I complete the running one.Just this time,no one is in the queue,my PC stayed idle for days.But I got it fixed by reinstalling BOINC.
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Is the server down recently? (Message 56374)
Posted 15 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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can anybody help me?
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Is the server down recently? (Message 56360)
Posted 14 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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I dunno if there is anything wrong with the server now,but I stop receiving more WU now.the last WU i received from BOINC was about three days ago,after that,I system crashed,I had to reintall it thoroughly,but before I put in the system disk,I made a copy of BOINC from C:/Program File/BOINC.after i install the system,I put that file back to that location again.I know some other files of boinc are located under other path,but i thought boinc can also run smoothly without them.But ever since that installation,whenever i put my mouse at the icon of boinc at the tray,it always says calculationand network are stopped.I want to know if it's the problem of my connect setting,so I click the message board.however,it seems all the projects are still requesting works from servers

2008-10-13 15:57:48|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
2008-10-13 15:57:53|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
2008-10-13 15:57:21||Starting BOINC client version 6.2.19 for windows_intelx86
2008-10-13 15:57:21||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
2008-10-13 15:57:21||Libraries: libcurl/7.18.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
2008-10-13 15:57:21||Data directory: C:Program FilesBOINC
2008-10-13 15:57:21||Running under account Godfather
2008-10-13 15:57:21||Processor: 1 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 9]
2008-10-13 15:57:21||Processor features: fpu tsc sse sse2 mmx
2008-10-13 15:57:21||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Editon, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)
2008-10-13 15:57:21||Memory: 511.49 MB physical, 1.22 GB virtual
2008-10-13 15:57:21||Disk: 7.80 GB total, 4.95 GB free
2008-10-13 15:57:21||Local time is UTC +8 hours
2008-10-13 15:57:21|rosetta@home|URL: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID: 922304; location: (none); project prefs: default
2008-10-13 15:57:21|PS3GRID|URL: http://www.ps3grid.net/; Computer ID: 15083; location: (none); project prefs: default
2008-10-13 15:57:21||General prefs: from rosetta@home (last modified 07-Oct-2008 20:40:21)
2008-10-13 15:57:21||Host location: none
2008-10-13 15:57:21||General prefs: using your defaults
2008-10-13 15:57:21||Reading preferences override file
2008-10-13 15:57:21||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 255.75MB
2008-10-13 15:57:21||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 460.34MB
2008-10-13 15:57:21||Preferences limit disk usage to 0.09GB
2008-10-13 15:57:21||Suspending network activity - user is active
2008-10-13 15:57:48||Resuming network activity
2008-10-13 15:57:48|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
2008-10-13 15:57:53|rosetta@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
2008-10-13 15:59:04||Running CPU benchmarks
2008-10-13 15:59:22||General prefs: from rosetta@home (last modified 07-Oct-2008 20:40:21)
2008-10-13 15:59:22||Host location: none
2008-10-13 15:59:22||General prefs: using your defaults
2008-10-13 15:59:22||Reading preferences override file
2008-10-13 15:59:22||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 255.75MB
2008-10-13 15:59:22||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 460.34MB
2008-10-13 15:59:22||Preferences limit disk usage to 0.09GB
2008-10-13 15:59:35||Benchmark results:
2008-10-13 15:59:35|| Number of CPUs: 1
2008-10-13 15:59:35|| 1065 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
2008-10-13 15:59:35|| 2008 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
2008-10-13 16:00:01||Fetching configuration file from http://seti@home.net/get_project_config.php
2008-10-13 16:00:55||Fetching configuration file from http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/get_project_config.php
2008-10-13 16:01:24|SETI@home|Master file download succeeded
2008-10-13 16:01:29|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Project initialization. Requesting 1 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
2008-10-13 16:01:34|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
2008-10-13 16:01:34|SETI@home|Message from server: No work sent
2008-10-13 16:01:36|SETI@home|Started download of arecibo_181.png
2008-10-13 16:01:36|SETI@home|Started download of sah_40.png
2008-10-13 16:01:38|SETI@home|Finished download of sah_40.png
2008-10-13 16:01:38|SETI@home|Started download of sah_banner_290.png
2008-10-13 16:01:39|SETI@home|Finished download of arecibo_181.png
2008-10-13 16:01:39|SETI@home|Started download of sah_ss_290.png
2008-10-13 16:01:40|SETI@home|Finished download of sah_banner_290.png
2008-10-13 16:01:41|SETI@home|Finished download of sah_ss_290.png
2008-10-13 16:06:18||Suspending network activity - user is active

just none of them got any works.What's the problem ?can anyone help?
10) Message boards : Number crunching : why so progressing so slowly? (Message 56359)
Posted 14 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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My computer is 1.90 GHz, dual core, with 2 GB of memory. I suspect that your 512 MB of memory is not enough to run certain BOINC projects well; I had problems when my machine had only 1 GB of memory.

The delay between when a task finishes and credit for it is awarded is often less than one day.

Can you afford more memory, and can your machine make use of more? The limit mine can handle is 2 GB, which I have now, or I'd consider going up to the 4 GB limit that 32-bit Windows Vista can handle.

If you can get up to even 1 GB per core, your machine should return results a little faster than mine, although perhaps only half as often if it has only one core.

A WU is a workunit - a piece of work for your computer to do.

I was unable to follow the progress of workunits well until I clicked on the right and left edges of the workunits list screen, and dragged then outward so I could see which workunits were currently in progress.

Clicking the Update button seldom does much unless you have at least one workunit completed and ready to upload.


Thanks for your advise,mine is one core,I dont expect high performance from it,and I will change a new machine,maybe a MAC,hope that can run better~~
11) Message boards : Number crunching : why so progressing so slowly? (Message 56302)
Posted 9 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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Your message "waiting to be managed,requested by user" did not translate very well. Which area of BOINC Manager did you see that message on? Projects tab? Messages area?

BOINC will take care of sending back the results when they are completed. It is a two step process. First step is send back the results file. Second step is to update to the project and confirm the file was received. Sometimes it waits a while before doing the second step. This helps accomplish more steps with a single scheduler request, and so reduces the load on the server over time.


thank you very much,your answer is very helpful to me.I saw the message I translate on project tab I guess.Most of time when I decide to abort a task,i click update,after a few seconds,I click abort.Is this too short for the task to be upload to the server,or maybe I should click abort after half an hour so the make sure my work is uploaded?
12) Message boards : Number crunching : why so progressing so slowly? (Message 56294)
Posted 8 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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It's driving me crazy!I almost cant bear it any longer.This task has ,as it shown in the statistic,occupied me about Nine hours to crunch it,now,about 98% has been completed.the problem occured when progress to 95%,before I accomplished 95%,it ran at a normal speed,(it took me about a noon to finish 95%)but after I reached that stage,it became a real snail!!I even suspended tasks from other projects to give it a kind of priority,but it runs so so so slowly!what is the problem with it??? As you can see, i'm a freshman to Rosetta,or even boinc,I have just had succeed one task(of all the projects i have involved) in rosetta ever since I start to use boinc,I quit many other projects I joint,cuz I found them run like the of rosetta in last5% I m running now,which i 'm impossible to meet the deadline.i dunno if this is because my PC configuration is too out-of-date,I'm afraid according to the present rate,I will never earn more than 1000 credits,I just got 4 credits from the only task I succeed in rosetta.I bought my pc in 2003,the CPU is 1.99GHz, 512MB memory,I notice that in this forum,many people like to take 3.00GHz as a standard config to explain some problem,i'm kept wondering,are most of you guys pc 3GHz?I 'm in china,I dunno what situation are there in other countries,but in china 3GHz is very rare,it's so fresh and so powerful,only people who bought pc recently may have that config,and in most of the brand like dell and apple,2.5GHz or 2.6Ghz is a very strong config,is cpu so much more advanced in other countries than in china???
By the way,I want to consult experienced host about some problems i met.First,what 's WU??it's a high frequency word,but i dont get it,
second,everytime when I decide to finally suspend a task,I 'd like to first update those works I have done to the server,anyway,I donnt want what i have done has nothing contribute to science,it's not credits that i care about,contribute to science is what really matters,just what to make sure i 'm not encountering some abnomral problems.after I press update,the following words(I translate them into english,maybe there are some differences in the english version,mine is chinese) appears in the status column“waiting to be managed,requested by user”then"communication has been postponed(and a time countdown after that)".I want to know if this indicate I upload the work successfully?
To my great pleasure,while I 'm typing this long message,I saw "100%" in the progession!!!! and new rosetta task started running! but the credit is not rewarded,maybe there is a delay,doesn't matter.Im so happy!

If anyone can answer my quesion,I will be very grateful!
13) Message boards : Number crunching : why so progressing so slowly? (Message 56272)
Posted 7 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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I dunno why the computing I am doing on rosetta is so slowly,a task may require days to finish,I even stop downloading new task,cuz I 'm afraid I cant meet the deadline.Is this a common phenomenon?do any of you encounter such a problem,or is my computer too obsolete to satisfy the massive calculation?

thanks for help!
14) Message boards : Number crunching : why always short of space? (Message 56252)
Posted 6 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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I got it,the problem is now solved,thx a lot Bruce!
15) Message boards : Number crunching : why always short of space? (Message 56248)
Posted 6 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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is there any one can help?
16) Message boards : Number crunching : why always short of space? (Message 56247)
Posted 6 Oct 2008 by Godfather
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I have been receiving message from the sever of rosetta that inform me there is new task but I dont have enough disk space,an additinal 80MB is needed.however the disk division which I used to store data file for bonic still has more than 2GB free space.what's the problem?Is there any settings I have to reset to fix this problem?(I allocate 500MB for Bonic,but now,just 60MB is used)






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