Yep, new feature ... and almost everyone that notices it regards it as a bad thing.

Personally I think it is another solution in search of a problem. The only time BOINC has ever gotten in my way is from GPU usage and this feature is not likely to make a dent in that because of the way GPU tasks run ... if you have lag, you will still have it because the GPU Kernel does not shut down right away even if the parent task dies ... one of the reasons I did not run AP26 tasks on the mac was that the tasks were badly made and I got too much lag on the system... I run Collatz on the Mac all day long and never notice it at all (though the Mac card is slower than dirt ...)

Anyway, as more projects update the server side you will be able to make the setting change there...

I notice significant graphics lag while running collatz (ATI Card only). So I set it to run after 1 min of inactivity. The lag shows whether I OC the card or not. Windows 7.

Hi

I believe that it was the DNETC project that was at fault. I had what appeared to be GPU work units running on the CPU or that is what it appeared to be in BoincManager.

I have detached from DENETC on all my PC's and the problem has gone away.

I am in the middle of a move so will retry if you want the logs in a few weeks ??

<cc_config>
<log_flags>
<cpu_sched_debug>1</cpu_sched_debug>
<rr_simulation>1</rr_simulation>
</log_flags>
</cc_config>

<cc_config>
<log_flags>
<cpu_sched_debug>0</cpu_sched_debug>
<rr_simulation>0</rr_simulation>
</log_flags>
</cc_config>

Unless I'm reading this wrong, is there any ETA when Rosetta will be able to utilize GPU's, specifically on a MAC?

Right now MAC GPU use is pretty much restricted to Collatz and I think EaH though the EaH application uses almost a full core as well as the GPU (GPU use is about 30%) ... which is why at this time I am solidly doing Collatz on my Mac ...

Rosetta is not likely to have a GPU application for any platform ...

Forgive my ignorance or curiosity here Paul, but why won't they ever have one? Is it just something with the way the project is coded?

Unless I'm reading this wrong, is there any ETA when Rosetta will be able to utilize GPU's, specifically on a MAC?

Thanks. And I know that BOINC offers me a lot of configuration options like "don't use in case of mouse action", which I give away by using it in a VM. But I want to test if other applications work in this environment too, which usually don't offer any of these configurations (like a cluster/grid). I hope starting the VM with nice level 19 is sufficient for this or I'll have to search for a different scheduler.

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Um, can you point to that paper on-line?
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Paper: Optimizing Grid Site Manager Performance with Virtual Machines

At least I found out why the clients didn't upload finished jobs. After the wireshark results I suspected the network connection as possible source of error. The problem was the ca-bundle.crt file. Since shared folders do not work with links, I simply copied these files. And all the trouble because of this... Now I mount the NFS dirs directly via VM. And I finally could submit (some of) my old jobs.

I think what you are missing is that even though you have a VM you are still using the pc's cpu to run it, so if you are running Rosetta on the main pc and the VM pc too, you are still using the SAME cpu to do it.
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I don't use the host for rosetta calculations. They are simply linux workstations for students and sometimes a second vm is started for windows courses ;). Until this point it seems stable.

Why I do this? I want to test the environment for all kind of background work, that's why I use the VM.

Cheers
Michael

Not to sound too pius about it, but the DnetC, MilkyWay@Home and Collatz projects aren't my cup of tea; - I ran Dnet for 3+ years and only stopped because I feel my CPU time is better served helping humanity find cures to Cancer and diseases than cracking cryptography (hence going for Rosetta).

But thank you for informing me that there are projects out there to use the ATI cards! - Will have to keep my eye out for worthwhile projects when they become available for the ATI technology.

The problem is that for the gpu cards there is not currently a disease curing project yet. There has been talk about it here at Rosetta but Rosetta does not lend itself well to the differences between cpu and gpu precision. Cpu's are VERY precise while gpu's are only sort of precise, by comparison. And when you get out towards the 10th decimal point, one number can mean a whole lot 10 calculations later! And a hundred calculations later, you are not even in the same ballpark!!

For example I run a Boinc cpu project and a Boinc project that uses memory only and a Boinc gpu project on my pc's. On the real part of the box I crunch with all three but on the VM box I can only crunch the memory only project.

I would say this depends on the machinery you use and on the jobs you want to calculate. If the jobs calculate only on one core or they need not that much RAM, I would say that you could do more work with more than one VM. I read a paper on this topic.

I would say this depends on the machinery you use and on the jobs you want to calculate. If the jobs calculate only on one core or they need not that much RAM, I would say that you could do more work with more than one VM. I read a paper on this topic.

Paul -

Since I am in the process of building a new system centered on the new AMD X6 processor I am a little curious about your comment about "on quads and wider we see artifacts of the system not making optimal decisions on what to do when"

No, there isn't. Bragging rights is all.

I do not understand at all what you are saying.