Posts by hadron

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 109087)
Posted 5 Apr 2024 by hadron
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Yep, The Validator is borked,

For me, anything returned from 3 Apr 2024, 22:02:46 UTC fails, and a quick look at th top computers shows the same thing- everything going back at present fails Validation.

If someone could get the Projects attention?

First one here (of 52 in total) was at 4:28:28 UTC 3 April; another task reported at the same time did validate.
Then 16 tasks in a row were validated, the last at 12:54:34 UTC, after which everything was marked invalid. (There are no Rosetta tasks running on my system since 4 Apr 2024, 21:05:07 UTC at the latest.)

The only thing that appears common among them all is that they all took approximately 10800 to 10900 seconds to run.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : New jobs in Rosetta Python projects (Message 108812)
Posted 24 Jan 2024 by hadron
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Output I get is : "boinc : boinc video render vboxusers" so I am assuming so?

Yes, you're OK here -- boinc has the necessary group membership.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : New jobs in Rosetta Python projects (Message 108806)
Posted 23 Jan 2024 by hadron
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Anyone managed to get the VM jobs working on Linux?


Is user boinc a member of group vboxuser? Run "sudo groups boinc" to find out. Then, if necessary, use

sudo groupmod -a -U boinc vboxusers

to add boinc to that group.
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 108207)
Posted 26 Mar 2023 by hadron
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@Mr P Hucker
OK, I give up -- it is not worth my effort trying to get you to see that you are using pseudostats in an attempt to support your pseudoscience -- you will never think beyond the world of the Trumpophant.
The vaccines all had an effectiveness above 95% against the initial strain of the virus, and that is a demonstrable fact. There is now work going on to develop vaccines capable of providing protection against any coronavirus, and with mRNA technology, I have no doubt that will be successful -- maybe not in my lifetime, but hopefully in yours.
Hauling out the common cold is a definite non-starter -- every rhinovirus ("rhin" means "nose", not "rhinoceros"), even the most virulent of them, has a very low mortality rate, but that does not ensure one will not appear some day with very high mortality. The flu viruses, for example, for the most part are no more lethal than SARS-COV-2, but that did not stop the 1918 H1N1 variant from bursting onto the scene, infecting at least 1/3 of the world population, and killing at least 10% of those. There is simply no way to predict when a variant of any virus will appear with very high virulence AND very high mortality.
So, take your chances with believing that vaccines don't work, ignore the fact that smallpox has been eradicated, ignore the fact that polio and rubella are no longer the terrifying threats that they once were, and continue to live in your rose-coloured world.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 108205)
Posted 26 Mar 2023 by hadron
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The difference between you and me is where you place the danger line. If you were told there was a disease that was going to wipe out 50 people worldwide, you wouldn't get the vaccine. Chances are you'd never catch it. What number would you place on predicted worldwide deaths before you get the vaccine? Covid is 1 in 1000. A 1 in 1000 chance of death is not enough to concern me.
Your claimed mortality rate is the ratio of total deaths divided by total world population.

The correct way to calculate a mortality rate is to use the total number of resolved cases as the divisor; 6.8 million people died from Covid-19 out of 680 million cases worldwide, which is a mortality rate of 1% -- rather large, as far as flu-like diseases go.
No, that's the wrong way. My way includes the chances of catching it. All I need to know is the chances of me dying vs. the chances of me not dying. Not dying includes both recovering from it and not catching it in the first place. So 0.1%. Low enough I don't actually know anyone who's died of it. However I know about 50 who recovered, some of them twice, the twice ones all having had the vaccine and still getting it just as bad or worse! What are we up to now, 5 doses? It isn't working!

P.S. those who recovered are the healthier ones, so the next generation will be stronger.

Your way does not make any statement at all about the chances of becoming infected. There is a very real difference between the rate of infection and the mortality rate, and no statistical manipulation will ever show otherwise. In using the total population to calculate the mortality rate, you are assuming that 100% of the total population has been exposed to the virus.
As for why the vaccines "aren't working", you ignore the fact that there are many variants of SARS-COV-2 out there now, but the vaccines currently in use were designed to combat the initial strain. It is thus no surprise to anyone (or at least should not be) that the effectiveness of the vaccine has declined.
Finally, viruses do mutate significantly, and rapidly, so each new strain becomes something new as far as the immune system is concerned. The best the next generation of humans can hope for is that their immune systems might be slightly more capable of fighting off an infection from one of those new strains.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 108200)
Posted 25 Mar 2023 by hadron
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The difference between you and me is where you place the danger line. If you were told there was a disease that was going to wipe out 50 people worldwide, you wouldn't get the vaccine. Chances are you'd never catch it. What number would you place on predicted worldwide deaths before you get the vaccine? Covid is 1 in 1000. A 1 in 1000 chance of death is not enough to concern me.

Your claimed mortality rate is the ratio of total deaths divided by total world population.

The correct way to calculate a mortality rate is to use the total number of resolved cases as the divisor; 6.8 million people died from Covid-19 out of 680 million cases worldwide, which is a mortality rate of 1% -- rather large, as far as flu-like diseases go.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Problen downloading work tasks. (Message 107838)
Posted 17 Dec 2022 by hadron
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It got rid of the problem that, after you aborted the other tasks, you weren't getting any new ones because of some "stalled" download.
I did say it wouldn't solve the problem of not being able to download the new tasks, didn't I?


So all that exercise did was replace an old set of undownloadable tasks with a new set of undownloadable tasks.

Mother of God, Jean-David, you said you aborted the old tasks, and then couldn't get any new ones because of stalled downloads.

I merely told you how to get rid of those "stalled downloads." What more do you want?
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Problen downloading work tasks. (Message 107835)
Posted 17 Dec 2022 by hadron
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Restart your boinc client to clear any "stalled downloads".

It won't help in getting the downloads to complete, of course, but at least it gets rid of one small problem.


OK: I aborted the downloads that would not download for a couple of days.
I restarted the boinc-client.

Now I have 14 new tasks that will not download. Same symptoms as before. I still have connectivity to the download server. What small problem did it remove?

It got rid of the problem that, after you aborted the other tasks, you weren't getting any new ones because of some "stalled" download.
I did say it wouldn't solve the problem of not being able to download the new tasks, didn't I?
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Problen downloading work tasks. (Message 107833)
Posted 17 Dec 2022 by hadron
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Edit , after aborting all tasks from the download que from one system and press update I still get

17/12/2022 12:01:38 | Rosetta@home | update requested by user
17/12/2022 12:01:44 | Rosetta@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
17/12/2022 12:01:44 | Rosetta@home | Not requesting tasks: some download is stalled
17/12/2022 12:01:46 | Rosetta@home | Scheduler request completed
17/12/2022 12:01:46 | Rosetta@home | Project requested delay of 31 seconds

even though I have no tasks waiting / stuck to download on that system
The aborted downloads now show as `error while downloading`
It was worth a try
I hate zombie tasks nnnn

Restart your boinc client to clear any "stalled downloads".

It won't help in getting the downloads to complete, of course, but at least it gets rid of one small problem.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Problen downloading work tasks. (Message 107822)
Posted 17 Dec 2022 by hadron
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When the server status page says the download server isn't running, it isn't running, and no one is getting any tasks sent down to them.
Even though all the other stats show that they are.

Perhaps you can tell me how to get around all these 403 errors then, because that is all I've been seeing since this mess began.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Problen downloading work tasks. (Message 107820)
Posted 17 Dec 2022 by hadron
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I would say it's a pure Linux problem. I have no problems on my Windows computers. Only on my Linux computer does it not want to download the rest.

Greetings from Daniel

I don't believe you, not for one nanosecond. When the server status page says the download server isn't running, it isn't running, and no one is getting any tasks sent down to them.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Problen downloading work tasks. (Message 107809)
Posted 16 Dec 2022 by hadron
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Allocating the 14 tasks to you is done by the Scheduler which then passes them to the Download Server to action. The Scheduler has told you they’re coming but the DS is not there to send them.


What happens if the deadline is passed before the tasks actually download? Is that all wasted? Deadline is early Sunday afternoon.

I don't know about Rosetta, but I've had a couple of of tasks on LHC run past the due date, and have still got credit for them. My advice is to just let them run to completion.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Problen downloading work tasks. (Message 107801)
Posted 16 Dec 2022 by hadron
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Download server boinc-files.bakerlab.org Not Running


Patience, Grasshopper, it's not the end of the world as we know it. In the fullness of time, The download server will be back up and running.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Problen downloading work tasks. (Message 107796)
Posted 16 Dec 2022 by hadron
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As of right now on the project status page, the download server is still down, and there are only 44248 tasks in progress, with 29,911 unsent.
The front page seems to be a little out of touch with reality.
15) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 107461)
Posted 17 Oct 2022 by hadron
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I was able to open profile at cosmology@home, but then i logged out and can't log in.
Somebody needs to contact them. Anyone got a live contact?

All my computers are still connected with Boinc, and I can turn things off and on in Boinc, I just can't to the website to change settings any more. So I can probably still do work for them ok as I've got most stuff in that project set up perfectly here.

I THINK I was able to find a live contact and report it.

Let's watch over the next few days to see if this worked.

The error was reported there months ago.

http://www.cosmologyathome.org/forum_thread.php?id=7812

People have been trying for some time to contact the project head, Marius Millea, for some time. The biggest problem seems to be that he is no longer at Illinois (I believe he's now at the Poincaré Institute), and has stopped maintaining the C@H site.
16) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 107449)
Posted 16 Oct 2022 by hadron
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Ok...but their SSL is all messed up.
Or is there something on my end to correct SSL errors?
And I missed your info in all the other chatter.


No, there is nothing you can do about it.
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 107447)
Posted 16 Oct 2022 by hadron
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http://www.cosmologyathome.org/create_account_form.php

That is what the page shows, but when you click on the link then it goes to this:
https://www.cosmologyathome.org//create_account_form.php?next_url=

http://www.cosmologyathome.org/login_form.php
and that converts to https://www.cosmologyathome.org//login_form.php?next_url=

http://www.cosmologyathome.org/home.php
https://www.cosmologyathome.org//login_form.php?next_url=home.php

I am just copying what is in the url bar. Nothing is altered.

And I have told you what is happening at C@H -- the firewall is taking traffic addressed to the http port and sending it instead to the https port.
Why is this happening? Because C@H wants to ensure that your communication is secure while you are creating a new account or logging in on an existing account.
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 107445)
Posted 16 Oct 2022 by hadron
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[quote]But this is really odd. The link is http but yet if you try to go to it its converted to https without you doing anything. All my browsers do that.

hmm...there is something funky in their website.

There's nothing odd or funky about that -- the remote system is redirecting the http port to the https port.



What remote system?
If I say here to make it http and the project is also http, then why is it turning into https?
If things don't work here, then why via BOINC is it appearing to be the same issue?
Is there something here on the local system that got changed during an windows update or what happened?

The remote system is whatever system you are trying to connect to, in this instance Cosmology@Home. What is going on here has nothing to do with how your computer is set up, nor any application configuration on your computer. The change from http to https is being done by C@H's firewall.
Every decent firewall is capable of forwarding any given port to any other port. Think in terms of moving to a new place of residence, and instructing the post office to forward your mail from the old address to the new one. Port forwarding works in much the same way: In this instance, the C@H firewall is set up to send http traffic to the https port number (port 80 is redirected to port 8080, to be more specific). Not only can a firewall do this much, but it can also send http traffic to the https port on a completely different computer.
This is nothing you have any control over, and it does not matter if you are using Boinc or your web browser to make the connection.
As for the reason for the error, C@H's security certificate is expired, and so the issuing authority will no longer authenticate it. Because of this, your browser is refusing to load that page. Once upon a time, Firefox gave you a chance to accept the certificate anyway, and proceed at your own caution -- apparently no longer, but if there is a way to change Firefox's config back to the way it worked before, I haven't yet found it.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home (Message 107430)
Posted 15 Oct 2022 by hadron
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[quote]But this is really odd. The link is http but yet if you try to go to it its converted to https without you doing anything. All my browsers do that.

hmm...there is something funky in their website.

There's nothing odd or funky about that -- the remote system is redirecting the http port to the https port.
20) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : Waiting for Memory (Message 107321)
Posted 14 Oct 2022 by hadron
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in my preferences i have

Use RAM:

when in Use 80%
When not in Use 90% of Memmory

installed is 4GB
aktually in use .... then when i see there ist a Job from Rosetta Aktiv less then 10% cpu usage, less then 1GB Ram in use.
the Job is aktiv and after 60 minutes there will no job cange be done, the system still waiting for this Job but nothing will be done


You are running boinc tasks on a system with only 4GB installed?? Amazing. If you can you might try adding more RAM to the system. I'd suggest a minimum of 16GB, but on the computer you are talking about here, you might be able to do with only 8.

You can (should?) set both of those RAM settings to 100%. Boinc runs at a very low priority, so if the system needs memory to do something else, it will swap out a boinc task to do that. Adding more system memory will reduce the chances of this ever happening.


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