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Message boards :
Number crunching :
Rosetta now abandonware?
(Message 96517)
Posted 15 May 2020 by yoerik Post: Project -> News & Articles about Rosetta Huh? No clue what you're talking about. The OP is upset about a lack of communication from the project to us. This has nothing to do with peer-reviewed articles being published by the project, in a renowned medical journal. Mod.Sense pointed to the "News and Articles about Rosetta" Tab - I pointed out that the section they're pointing to is over 2 years out of date. Another argument about that is - this is not communication from the project to us volunteers, it's the news press discussing the project... making it useless to the point of this thread, even if it was up to date. This is a similar conversation that's started here: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=13533&postid=96439 about the lack of communication between the project, and the volunteers - which is a fair conversation to have. Does this alleviate the apparent confusion? |
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News :
Rosetta's role in fighting coronavirus
(Message 96513)
Posted 15 May 2020 by yoerik Post: Exactly. One of the major issues with Distributed Computing has been keeping users active. It's not much to ask to be kept up to date, within reason. We don't need daily updates - but it's reasonable to request updates more frequently than once every few months. |
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Number crunching :
Rosetta now abandonware?
(Message 96512)
Posted 15 May 2020 by yoerik Post: Project -> News & Articles about Rosetta to be fair - the last article listed there is from 2017. That's not up to date, in any sense of the term. |
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Number crunching :
2nd shortage looming?
(Message 96491)
Posted 14 May 2020 by yoerik Post: hi, if the researchers need to evaluate the current results before the next batch, please make announcements on the main web page as well as in boinc-gui so that people would hang on in the project. if there is going to be a pause in between, do state so and give estimate of the pause duration if possible. I s'pose this means that this now-present shortage will be resolved quickly? |
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News :
Rosetta's role in fighting coronavirus
(Message 96475)
Posted 14 May 2020 by yoerik Post: You should post these updates on the Rosetta@home website and send out a notice. The news tab, as it sends out an alert to our clients - is certainly a larger audience than Rosetta's twitter page. I agree -- it does help to have more frequent updates as we haven't had a notice directly related to COVID-19, or Rosetta@home science, since April 4th. Their science should be the absolute priority - but it shouldn't be much to ask to repost that message here, or to even merely link to those kinds of tweets. |
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Number crunching :
Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home
(Message 96474)
Posted 14 May 2020 by yoerik Post: This WU: Hmm - I paused one or two other WUs - and it started working again. Rip. I'll have to babysit Rosetta WUs on that device to make sure no more than 3 of them are running at once. At least it's a phone - so it won't be as much of a bother. Thanks so much, Robert. |
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Number crunching :
Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home
(Message 96470)
Posted 13 May 2020 by yoerik Post: This WU: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=1177441830 has only progressed 2 minutes in the last 12 hours. My phone is running other WUs just fine - having reported 4 valid WUs today for Rosetta, and more for smaller projects like WCG. It just isn't running. I'll provide any additional information as requested, as soon as possible. Its deadline is tomorrow, and it has been stuck at 16% (4 hrs 10 minutes, now up to 12 minutes) for ages. What should I do? |
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Number crunching :
2nd shortage looming?
(Message 96414)
Posted 13 May 2020 by yoerik Post: The queue was brought up to over 9 million on April 28th - https://web.archive.org/web/20200428015118/http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ we'll have to wait and see what happens. |
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Number crunching :
2nd shortage looming?
(Message 96276)
Posted 8 May 2020 by yoerik Post: The queue was brought up to over 9 million on April 28th - https://web.archive.org/web/20200428015118/http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ fell to 5.7 million WUs less than a week later https://web.archive.org/web/20200502165444/https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ and has depleted to 1.5 million as of the latest update at 19:xx UTC today. So, while much of this can be marked up to the BOINC Pentathlon's tendency to Bunker WUs - the end result will still be a potential shortage of WUs. So because of these stats - it's fair to wonder if we'll be running into another shortage. Note: Just wanted to start this discussion, not to yell at the scientists or mods to make more WUs. Please refrain from doing so in this thread, or in general. We're not entitled to WUs - I just wanted to start the conversation... a healthy conversation. |
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News :
Switch to using SSL (Secure Socket Layer)
(Message 95890)
Posted 3 May 2020 by yoerik Post: Thanks from my wife and I. Think I did it but notices still says this project is using old URL. Will that go away eventually? If you look at the Project's properties, you can see what the URL is. Although, they went away the second I switched URLs - so you probably didn't. Check the project properties, and if it's not https://, try again. |
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Number crunching :
Initial Estimated completion time problem.
(Message 95730)
Posted 2 May 2020 by yoerik Post: Estimated CPU Time isn't always accurate - how long are they actually running? (try to run one as a test, if you haven't ran them)?Ah, from my first sentence in my initial post- I'm referring to the WUs that BOINC Manager is saying will finish in 4 hours 30 mins - not overall. I hope that clarifies what I'm referring to. What is the difference between that estimated runtime and the actual runtime? |
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News :
Switch to using SSL (Secure Socket Layer)
(Message 95727)
Posted 2 May 2020 by yoerik Post: I think your current work all gets dumped. I think mine did, for 4 cpus. I'm afraid to try it again. It does. That's why I set Rosetta to "no new tasks" - and let the queue run out, before removing and readding Rosetta under the new SSL URL. |
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News :
Switch to using SSL (Secure Socket Layer)
(Message 95725)
Posted 2 May 2020 by yoerik Post: Some companies have approached us about donating computing resources through R@h but will only do so through SSL for security reasons. When will BOINC manually update Rosetta@Home's listing to correct the change? Every day passes - more users attach using the http:// standard. Also - please edit the original newspost so people realize that removing the project will remove all the ongoing work? It's a minor change that could help quite a few people. |
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News :
Switch to using SSL (Secure Socket Layer)
(Message 95724)
Posted 2 May 2020 by yoerik Post: MacOS Catalina 10.15.4 After removing Rosetta@home - Open BOINC Manager - enter Advanced view. Enter the "add project" menu. There should be a textbox for "project URL" Copy and paste the new URL into that box, instead of selecting a specific project. Then just attach the project as normal. I hope that's right (I don't have a mac ;p) but if not, you'll need to ask in the Mac OS support section/wait until a Mac junkie pops by here. |
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Message boards :
Number crunching :
Initial Estimated completion time problem.
(Message 95720)
Posted 2 May 2020 by yoerik Post: After running Rosetta for over a month, with a couple of Application updates during that time, my Estimated completion time for newly downloaded work was generally within 15 minutes of my Target CPU Runtime (default, 8hrs) with an Estimated Remaining time for unstarted work of 7hrs 45min. Estimated CPU Time isn't always accurate - how long are they actually running? (try to run one as a test, if you haven't ran them)? |
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News :
Switch to using SSL (Secure Socket Layer)
(Message 95718)
Posted 2 May 2020 by yoerik Post: I used to use BOINC for SETI, but I am a total newbie here. I detached the project and then reattached it, but nowhere did I see the https: or a place to put that url. Can someone give me a tiny steps for tiny minds explanation a la Trump. (with bullets, a picture of me and my name?) Are you on Windows, Linux or Android? |
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News :
Switch to using SSL (Secure Socket Layer)
(Message 95717)
Posted 2 May 2020 by yoerik Post: Using BAM is this possible without losing stats? to my knowledge - no. I've detached hosts multiple times on Windows and Android - Once BAM has the stats logged, to my knowledge and experience - it is logged. No amount of credit I've seen has been lost. |
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News :
Switch to using SSL (Secure Socket Layer)
(Message 95686)
Posted 1 May 2020 by yoerik Post: We updated our project to use SSL. The project URL has thus been changed to https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta. You can reattach the project using this updated URL at your convenience. Please post any issues regarding this update in the discussion thread. We attached the project using the old URL. So by reattaching the project, you change the URL. Manually copy and paste the link https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ into the add project tab, to make sure it works properly. |
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Number crunching :
8 cores but only one Rosetta file?
(Message 94663)
Posted 17 Apr 2020 by yoerik Post: I am wondering if this is a limitation in Rosetta or if there is another problem. I have an i9-9900KF Intel chip, it has 8 cores, and I can run quite few tasks. Right now it is running 8 tasks, 7 from WCG and 1 from Rosetta. My question is, why is Rosetta only get one task? My resources are set to 100%, 28.57 for three projects and 14.29% for a fourth project that is on pause.. why is WCG getting more resource share? Is that because I downloaded the manager from WCG instead of Boinc? I think it should all be the same. Or is this a Rosetta limitation, they only one a computer to work on one file at a time? From my experience - it only sends a handful/one initially to test your computer, and sends more until it can establish your computer is a trustworthy host that does valid work. As for the rest - why it overtakes - well, that's because it takes a few days for the manager to balance. Rosetta also has shorter deadlines than most WCG projects, and the client automatically focuses on shorter deadlines. So, give it time - don't suspend tasks - just monitor it to see if it improves on its own, and let it run. You can also go to your WCG settings and set up a device profile, which can limit the amount of work it sends for each project you're signed up with. The other things you can do is go to the BOINC Manager - Computing Preferences - and reduce the backlog of work. |
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Android :
2020 and no Android task
(Message 93976)
Posted 9 Apr 2020 by yoerik Post: Same problem here, no tasks. Still none? |
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