Posts by torma99

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Tells us your thoughts on granting credit for large protein, long-running tasks (Message 94995) Posted 20 Apr 2020 by torma99 Post: For the masses I think there should be extra credit for bigger workouts. For me doesn't matter. What I would like more to have some descriptions about the workunits. Not novels, but maybe 50-80 words (so I can google them more if I am interested in the topic), maybe the lab which will use the data, or some info about the researchers. For me that would matter more, because I am just an average joe with 16 threads, but moreover because I do not believe in the credit system. If I were some system administrator at a huge server farm and I could convince my bosses to let me use some percent of the idle time, I would be the king cruncher, but I think the scientific results matter more. I joined in mid February. Since then there was an update on Rosetta, I could send back some Ralph WUs, there was the thread with the fluorescent proteins, now there is a discussion about this more complex folding, so as a commoner I assume the project heads into the right direction, for me that counts. And that is what convinced me, that till the end of the year I will try my best to run my computer 7/24. And after that I will adjust to my financial situation (maybe have to turn off some threads to cut a couple of euros in the electricity bill). No credits can change that, I could have quadrillion-zillion credits, but that is just a number written in a database , the real value is in the act to voluntarily donate computing time to the scientists to help them solve problems which otherwise could take more time. (Sorry for my broken English, learned the language alone ;-) )
2) Message boards : Number crunching : The most efficient cruncher rig possible (Message 94268) Posted 12 Apr 2020 by torma99 Post: I would like to sponsor BOINC (Rosetta at present) by building a rig (or multiple rigs) just for this purpose. Let's say I'd like to spend $1000 over the course of 5 years. This should include electricity as well, assume $5/watt over this interval. I plan to sell the hardware every 5 years for let's say 50% on average and again purchase something considered efficient at that time. Note that hardware viewed as top-notch today lose more value over time (i.e., are overpriced at introduction), while separate commodity hosts lose less (i.e., will sell easier). For example, a single cycle could include purchasing hardware for $800, consuming $600 of electricity (120W) and then selling the hardware at the end of the iteration for $400. Purchasing from the second hand market is also an option if it makes sense at all, but please be reasonable (base your recommendation on average prices attainable at most places). For the sake of reducing the scope of the argument, let's just assume 1GB of RAM requirement per slot and that the bare minimum number of peripherals are needed (in case of a desktop: motherboard, CPU+HSF, RAM, PSU, cables). From a science contribution perspective, what is the most efficient cost allocation and hardware choice (phone/SBC/laptop/desktop, RAM, CPU)? I recently upgraded my rig to run Rosetta, GPUGrid, WCG and Ralph. I was over your budget with Ryzen 7 3700x 32gigs of Ram, and an RTX2070. But for just Rosetta, I might start with Ryzen 3600x, with a fairly decent B450 mobo (MSI Mortar Max), and 16 Gigs of Ram. With this config there is an upgrade headroom for you in the CPU front. As I see in every 3 years or so, you can easily buy a CPU which was at least 1 tier or 2 tiers higher than you had, for example nowadays you can buy an i7 7700k second hand for a price of a i5 6500 or 6600. If I can keep up with the electricity bill I will aim myself for an 3950x in maybe 4 years without the need to upgrade anything else. For cooling you will be fine with the stock cooler with a well ventillated case. For PSU look for Seasonic Focus 450 Gold, If you want a stronger GPU, then a stronger one, but 450watts is enough almost for anything. For a second hand build I'd stay with Intel and I7 7700k. It has a built in graphics chip, so no need for a GPU 8/8 c/t so you can crunch many work units at once.
3) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : Florescent proteins designed entirely from scratch (Message 93982) Posted 9 Apr 2020 by torma99 Post: Thanks for the positive feedback! We ran validation on Rosetta@home for 60-70 models for the first part of the work (the design of the fold, experimenting with different approaches) then another 50 designs with ligand-binding cavity. Many thanks, to giving us insight to your project. Sounds really interesting and promising. Hope you will use Rosetta again for your work!
4) Message boards : News : Rosetta's role in fighting coronavirus (Message 92805) Posted 31 Mar 2020 by torma99 Post: Hi from Germany! Not new to BOINC, but new with R@H since... we all know when. Stay safe and healthy, everyone! It's not the virus that concerns me, it's the world falling apart due to virtually nobody working. I already find it hard to buy food, a freezer, a home gym, or brewing sugar. Panic is always worse than the actual thing. The world won't fall apart. We as a human race will prevail and overcome this, and I really really hope, many volunteers will stay with Rosetta and do work units for years, to maybe help the scientists understand new things about folding and might help to be prepared for the next pandemic. Since 2000 every decade China gifts the world some respiratory virus, and there is/was Ebola/Zika. We are more fragile than we think folding is a good way for the average joe to contribute to the fight. Just keep your head down. 4-6 weeks and Europe will overcome the first wave, and we have to hope and give all the help to the science to get a therapy or a vaccine, while Covid is in retreat, because as the best minds see, there is a good chance it will emerge in the autumn.
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta 4.0+ (Message 92288) Posted 25 Mar 2020 by torma99 Post: I just found Rosetta 4.07 used 2,111,242,240 bytes (1.97 GIGAbytes) before my system crashed (i7-4770K, 8GB). This seems to be just a bit more than expected, so please take a look and fix the problem. I run SETI, EINSTEIN, and LHC in addition to Rosetta, so Rosetta can't have the whole machine! For my rig (16 GB of ram) running on 4 cores. It consumes almost the same. 1,9-2,2 GB and does not causes problems, 8 gig can be somewhat small, if you use your browser with some open tabs next to Rosetta.
6) Message boards : News : Rosetta's role in fighting coronavirus (Message 92287) Posted 25 Mar 2020 by torma99 Post: To try and maximize my contribution to fighting SARS-CoV-2, I've adopted the approach of running R@h for CPU work, and running Folding@home for my GPUs Much thanks to the R@h team! I am doing the same. Here in the morning I could get 2 work units for F@H (Nothing afterward the people in the US wake up) and it uses only 10 percent of my CPU, the other approx 85% goes to Rosetta, when the F@H units finish, usually early in the afternoon here, that 10 also goes to Rosetta. I am considering the options to use my old config as a rosetta dedicated machine in the future, however I do not have a PSU so this has to wait till the pandemic is over...
7) Message boards : News : Rosetta's role in fighting coronavirus (Message 92231) Posted 24 Mar 2020 by torma99 Post: Thank you for the info! Keep up the good work, and I really-really appreciate that you still trying to work even, when the devil is ante portas. And don't worry about the "I just want to work for covid otherwise not guys" I think the majority understands Rosetta and is committed to support science not only in this vis maior situation, but always!
8) Message boards : News : Rosetta's role in fighting coronavirus (Message 92176) Posted 23 Mar 2020 by torma99 Post: Could you please go through how you look up the robetta work units, with an example? I think if you were to do a screencap of the workunits that you're processing and highlight the ones you found to be going towards Covid 19 research, it would be very informative and help boost people's moral. Edit: This message was directed to torma99, but if anyone else would be able to do this please do. So your first thing to do is go to robettas queue: http://robetta.bakerlab.org/queue.php At target try ncov, sars, or covid, you will see the work units. If you have robetta work units there is a long code with two 5 digit numbers: rb_03_15_18506_18311_ab_t000__h001_robetta_IGNORE_THE_REST_11_18_902075_5 You have to look for the second number. In this example 18311. You can type this in the robetta queue into the ID box, and see what it actually is. Hope I am not wrong, I read this somewhere here in the forum.
9) Message boards : News : Rosetta's role in fighting coronavirus (Message 92163) Posted 23 Mar 2020 by torma99 Post: "Currently, I have 14 machines with 80+ cores and 14+ GPUs. When I switched over to run one of them to Rosetta, from cancer research (WCG), I did NOT receive anything related to covid19. Whenever I would receive ALL WUs for covid19, I will switch over... Till then I will stick with cancer research. Let me know when covid19 is the priority here. I am NOT going to download the fold@home app. If it is not thru BOINC, I do not run it. James" Not all COVID wus were labeled covid. There were I think 8-10 projects which had just their code in robetta, and you had to search for it on robetta's site. And there you also had to use ncov, covid, and maybe sars2 for searching if I remember correctly. So right now it is essential, that many people join in. I also think that cancer research is vital, but right now everly flop counts toward making a possibility for many people to live another day. I was really excited back then, when I discovered how to get more information about robetta projects, and found I was doing an ncov wu.
10) Message boards : News : Rosetta's role in fighting coronavirus (Message 92131) Posted 22 Mar 2020 by torma99 Post: My computer also crunches a covid work unit right now.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU WU's (Message 91924) Posted 10 Mar 2020 by torma99 Post: Great summary!
12) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : CoronaVirus (Message 91781) Posted 25 Feb 2020 by torma99 Post: Thank you! That is, what I was looking for!
13) Message boards : News : Rosetta's role in fighting coronavirus (Message 91780) Posted 25 Feb 2020 by torma99 Post: Great summary, thanks!
14) Message boards : Rosetta@home Science : CoronaVirus (Message 91776) Posted 24 Feb 2020 by torma99 Post: I think for many of the noob users, like me would be great to know more about the projects. I came because of the covid-19 posts to help, but couldn't find any information about what is being done here on a short eli5 basis apart from the post on reddit. Still I want to help the project although I do not have a strong CPU, but I am not a doctor, nor a scientist, at this point that is the best I can do apart from personal awareness and hygiene. Still I see other home computing projects at least have monthly or quarterly updates. But I also accept that for the big guns, who can run this on spare server cycles or on corporate machines the need for such lively conversation/announcements is low.